Posted on 04/29/2005 5:23:31 PM PDT by P_A_I
If it comes down to it, I'm in for $100 for his defense.
*wincing*
Hmm.
I've seen some pretty ugly guns out there.
Most of them .22's and such.
(Browning Buckmark anyone?)
Yowch, still.
Thanks.
Jeff Knox ? .......... relation to Neil ?
Make note; -- "Wilmshurst is planning to appeal the conviction and has filed suit against the Attorney General of California for violating federal law in conducting the raid and for violating Wilmshurst's civil rights under the Second Amendment."
Of course, to some misguided FReepers here, -- Wilmshurst has no 2nd Amendment rights in California.
I dunno.
How dare Wilmshurst appeal my ruling!
Protection from mountain lions is real. There are many places in the west that you don't want to go without a gun big enough to stop a lion. Attacks on humans are on the increase.
Yeah, that pretty much gave the tone of it tehre.
First I've heard of this, but still -it's bad news.
We are all very weary of the daily onslaught against those who think they have a right to own firearms. This is just another tale of judicial tyranny. The really sad part is that here in California, there is no one in government who will defend the 2nd amendment RKBA. The entire judicial system here is geared toward gutting the right to own a gun. The RKBA does not really exist as it was intended - it has been legislated and "judicialized" into the PKBA - Permission to Keep and Bear Arms over the last century.
Every gun law on the books whether state or federal is unconstitutional - IF one interprets the 2nd as it was intended. No court has done that over the last 100 years and no court will do it in the future. The 9th Circuit? F'ing clowns who work tirelessly to usher in the New Marxist Utopia. The Supreme Court? Maybe two or three of the current justices would rule correctly in this case, but the majority decision would almost certainly be 5-4 against the RKBA.
The writing has been on the wall for some time now. Many have been fighting the good fight to preserve what's left of the former right to arms for the last several decades. Over that time the road to the ultimate tyranny of a national gun confiscation has been plodded on by the enemies of freedom who at this time appear to be legion. The retiring of the 1994 AW ban was the first time in my lifetime that a gun law was removed from the books. The trend has been just the opposite.
I hate to sound pessimistic, since I truly defend the former RKBA nearly every day, sometimes in very small ways (like take a liberal associate to the pistol range) sometimes in larger ways (like try to influence one of my elected whores - I mean representatives). The adoption of shall issue by over 30 states may signal a change in the direction of legislative firearms policy - but right now, I don't trust any court to make the right decision regarding guns.
All threads don't always get the attention they deserve. This one has a lot to digest for me to jump up and yell "OUTRAGE".
But I did read it and this is my reply.
Now why would the Federal Inspector hot-foot it over to the state AG to report these fire-arms when he had proper federal liscensing for them?
And he's got some property issue in court too.
I can't help but think the purpose of this legal harassment is to get him to give up property that someone else wants. Wear him down or bankrupt him with legal costs.
Or is my tinfoil hat on too tight?
"The original post shows that info"Oh,i forgot my smart pill today:)BTW,i've commented on a number of articles today,but none of the threads are realy taking off.Some interesting topics,but not a lot of discussion.
Yeah, and protection from two legged predators is definitely a consideration as well: "Wilmshurst said he keeps guns at his car dealership because, in the 1980s, a man with a gun tried to enter the dealership's body shop. He also noted that, in the 1970s, a man kidnapped and raped his office manager's wife."
Eagle Eye wrote:
If it comes down to it, I'm in for $100 for his defense
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It sounds like it'll be a good case.. Me too..
What's the judge's name and what's his title?
Wilmshurst is typical of many in the area where he lives. You can bet that after his arrest, more than one local checked up on their gun locker and made mental note of all who were aware of it's contents.
Calaveras County Safe Again (ATF at it Again!)Citation: Misrepresenting story - Inaccurate Title
As it turns out, factually speaking, this was the State of California that brought charges against Wilmshurst and not fedgov which so many people here love to loathe; I also happen to think he has a case against CA ...
Here's an interesting tidbit - and Ii think it casts an interesting light overall on this case:
Richard Wilmshurst, 68, filed a civil complaint against Lockyer in U.S. District Court in Sacramento, claiming that his federal arms importer's license should shield him from state prosecution.From:Wilmshurst claims, in his civil complaint, that the state is prosecuting him solely to cover up the theft of 10 ounces of gold and other gold coins by state agents and to hide the "cruel and inhuman procedures employed to intimidate a 68-year-old man in failing health."
www.stocktonrecord.com/articlelink/080504/news/articles/080504-gn-9.php
Even sadder, imo, are the 'states rights' groups who insist that the 2nd does not apply in California. There are at least a half dozen active FReeper 'conservatives' who hold that position.
Every gun law on the books whether state or federal is unconstitutional - IF one interprets the 2nd as it was intended. The Supreme Court? Maybe two or three of the current justices would rule correctly in this case, but the majority decision would almost certainly be 5-4 against the RKBA --
-- but right now, I don't trust any court to make the right decision regarding guns.
I say bring on the showdown. A case like this could force the issue, and if we lost, it would bring on a Constitutional crisis, one long overdue..
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