Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[dc-zoo]

I don't need your permission to respond to anyone so why don't you mind your own damn business smartass.

[whenigettime]

In May this Brian Ladd predicted a boy scout would be lost in Yellowstone (think he said river). rather interesting, but could easily become distracting.

[hummingbird]

Hahahhaa, boy do I have a DEAL for you ! Just tune into FOX NEWS and you can get a fresh NEW ALERT ..ohhhhh I would say...ummmmm, every 3 1/2 minutes.

Not only an update, but an update with a GONG!

[Yaelle]

I respect all religions, but Scientology is not a religion. Of course it has no bearing on Greta's fantastic job covering and exposing this case.

[Yaelle]

I like Brussel sprouts AND true crime!

[hummingbird]

Pray for those who are heavy laden this night. They need it.

Amen, jacquej...Amen.

[hummingbird]

Thanks, pnsn...I never should have taken a nap this afternoon....now I have to catch up!

[dixiechick2000]

"You know everyone in Meridian."


LOL!

I, either, know them, know someone who knows them, or am related to them.

You have no idea how many times I've been to a family reunion, a funeral, or a wedding, only to see a long time friend, and find out we are related.

Why do you think I married someone from Texas?

That whole "marrying a cousin" thing can happen without even knowing it.



"course WKB says I know everyone in Mississippi"


I believe you do, too. ;o)

[dixiechick2000]

Thanks!

I have no idea, either.

[hummingbird]

Greta has done an awesome job on this case.

Indeed, she has, and she is definitely more watchable than "peace out kiss" Geraldo.

The gesture is a bit passe....and goofy, too!

[presently no screen name]

Not sure if June 23 is correct, though. I didn't check it out.

Catch up? Good thing you took a nap - you will be up all night.

[hummingbird]

Just caught up!!!! And, the dog is going nuts. He won't go to bed until I go to bed, so "I am outta here!"

G'night, pnsn and all y'all, too!

[onyx]

I missed all this. I will try to catch up tomorrow morning, but I'm certain the father is deeply involved. I have news too about the coral reefs and what happens when a weighted body is dumped into the deep. (There'll be nothing left of her) so all father and son have to do is shut up. My daughter (Cayman Islands) is all involved in this now, trying to stick up for the American investigtors on Cayman tlk radio. Yes, it has gone to an almost anti-American sentiment there.

I am beat, but glad to have my computer back.

See you in the afternoon..lol. I know I;ll sleep in.

[onyx]

I heard on the channel 12 news that Natalee is a graduate of Clinton, MS junor high/middle school. She one of ours.

[Nita Nupress]

Hmmmm.... Maybe I was way off base about Rudy.

http://www.cyberdistrict.net/eddy/1771.htm

08/21/2004
Life of the Minister of Justice threatened
MINISTER OF JUSTICE UNDER INCREASED SECURITY

The Intelligence Service of Venezuela (DAS) has notified Aruban
authorities that a group of Colombians have flown via Venezuela
to Aruba with the mission of assassinating the Minister of Justice
Rudy Croes. Rudy Croes has received numerous threats
ever since he fulfilled the function of Minister Justice in 2001 with
his very aggressive fight against drug trafficking and illegals.

It appears that Aruba has become very difficult to serve as a hub
for drug trafficking and the amount of illegals caught have dropped
dramatically. Numerous projects have helped secured Aruba from drug
trafficking and illegals including two on land radars, daily
helicopter patrol and coast surveillance.

Rudy Croes who already has security guards is now under increased
security. The men protecting his life are well trained in case
of any event. The family of Rudy Croes is also protected.

[Nita Nupress]

Just ran across this.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:wpu7mVfSmuEJ:www.nationalledger.com/scribe/archives/2005/06/missing_teen_in.shtml+rudy+croes+aruba&hl=en

(snip)

Saturday's news from the island brought a whirlwind of reports and retractions. 

tNL reported that Ministry of Justice, Rudy Croes, had stated that the teenage girl from Alabama had been murdered and her body had been found. That report also stated that authorities were preparing to retrieve the body. 

That report was later recanted by Croes and tNL carried that as well. [Related story] He stated late Saturday night that the government has no new information on Miss Holloway, and the official stance is now apparently that the Aruba government has no idea if the missing girl is alive or dead.

(snip)

[garandgal]

Baut N. Paydfoh ?

I understand that this is a common name in Aruba. He is related to Yaht S. Paydfoh, and Beechaus S. Paydfoh. Many U.S. politicians descend from the same line.

[Nita Nupress]

Updated 6/14. Don't know if it has been posted since then or not.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/aa.html

[justche]

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[PBRSTREETGANG]

That's one heck of a retraction.