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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: 4everontheRight

SUSPECT, NOT A WITNESS?

That's huge! I'll look for confirmation.


61 posted on 06/23/2005 12:01:34 PM PDT by maggief
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To: brigette

Okay, and thanks. Interesting thinking going on at Fox right now. They think the FBI helped Aruban LE with forensics and probably with deleted computer files/emails. Armed with that, they arrested Papa v.d. S. and now can really apply pressure on Joran. Good news, and I feel much better now about the FBI scaling back efforts there. If they helped give the LE enough information to nail this down, they could go home and let the Aruban LE take credit for solving this. Fair enough, national pride restored, etc.. Of course, no sign of N yet, but we're still praying.


62 posted on 06/23/2005 12:02:21 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

In this undated handout photo provided by Fox News, Anita and Paul Van Der Sloot, spoke together for the first time about their son Joran during an interview from Fox News Channel's On the Record with Greta Van Susteren. Joran van der Sloot, 17, son of justice official Paul van der Sloot, and his friends Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and brother Satish Kalpoe, 18, were arrested June 9, in connection with Natalee Holloway's disappearance, but have not been charged. (AP Photo/Fox News)

Aruba Police Arrest Father of Dutch Teen

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Aruban police on Thursday arrested the father of a Dutch teen already in custody in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, the teen's mother said.

"My husband was just picked up by police," Anita van der Sloot, referring to Paul van der Sloot, said in a telephone call to The Associated Press. "I don't know what to think."

63 posted on 06/23/2005 12:02:34 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Lizarde; maggiefluffs

Greta also said on her site that the interview was closer to 40 minutes.. maybe the police looked at the tape? And Greta's not saying..


64 posted on 06/23/2005 12:02:47 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: MinuteGal

Right now Greta on Fox is detailing her thoughts, what happened, what she found fishy, how the stories didn't work...she even questioned Deepak's mother about their changing stories and if they knew how Joran got home from the beach that night. Greta is succinct, focused, and hard driving. No fooling around, and the Holloway family is lucky she's there.


66 posted on 06/23/2005 12:06:35 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Lizarde

True enough


67 posted on 06/23/2005 12:07:49 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: TexKat

TexKat,Thanks for the pings,fatima


68 posted on 06/23/2005 12:08:50 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Trust but Verify

I think I DO like Greta, it's the For The Record show that's been unwatchable, unending rehash of irrelevant celebrity show trials and missing persons cases (like this, frankly) with lawyers that I really don't care what they have to say.

I agree she's doing a good job. And Julie Banderas is... well she's just something. She reminds me of Jennifer Eccleston.


69 posted on 06/23/2005 12:09:05 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: TexKat
"My husband was just picked up by police," Anita van der Sloot, referring to Paul van der Sloot, said in a telephone call to The Associated Press. "I don't know what to think."

I do feel badly for Anita van der Sloot because I think that she is an innocent here. (With the exception that she assisted in raising an out-of-control man-child.) My feeling since very early on is that her son is guilty of a Robert Chambers type scenario, and that her husband helped him to cover it up in some way. (Probably assisting in disposing of the body at sea.)

Obviously, purely my two cents.

70 posted on 06/23/2005 12:09:26 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Trust but Verify

Excellent comparison, and they both resemble JR terriers a bit physcially, too! (A dog I love.)


71 posted on 06/23/2005 12:09:42 PM PDT by hershey
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To: TexKat; All

I feel sorry for mother Vander Sloot in all this. As much as it is a nightmare for Beth, it has to be a nightmare for her as well.

We should stop squabbling with each other on this horrible situation, and pray that some kind of resolution comes for all the families involved.

Pray that Natalee be found, so that justice can be served, and the families can deal with the reality of the situation, and no longer be in limbo.

Like Howlin, I lost my oldest child (daughter) at about this stage of life, and how I admire Beth. I was out of my mind when the call came in that my daughter was dead. I cannot imagine myself holding up the way she has in this horrible situation.


72 posted on 06/23/2005 12:09:44 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: maggiefluffs

Greta should stay there all weekend. She is hot on the trail of the truth in this case. She is doing a helluva job with her investigative reporting.

I think Greta has found her true calling!


73 posted on 06/23/2005 12:09:45 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: Lizarde
I agree with your assessment.

I also think that law enforcement's decision to pick up and take Paulus away was the reason that Natalee's mother didn't show up at the VDS house with Greta for the second meeting.

I bet the police didn't know exactly at what time they would apprehend the father, so they quietly told the mother to stay away. The mother does not appear to be the type to not appear for a promised appointment.

Someone gave her the word.

Leni

74 posted on 06/23/2005 12:11:11 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Florida Freepers: Check out the Florida Forum. Click the Florida Flag on Your Profile Page)
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To: maggiefluffs

Paul Van Der Sloot was arrested after being questioned by police as a witness over the weekend.

Judge arrested in Aruba case

Thursday, June 23, 2005; Posted: 3:02 p.m. EDT (19:02 GMT)

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- An Aruban judge, the father of a 17-year-old suspect in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, has also been arrested in the case, a prosecution spokesperson said Thursday.

Paul Van Der Sloot is now being viewed as a suspect in the case of Natalee Holloway, a missing 18-year-old from suburban Birmingham, Alabama, Mariaine Croes said. He was arrested about 2 p.m. Thursday.

On Wednesday, Holloway's mother said more individuals "need to be pursued" in connection with the case.

Beth Holloway Twitty said she's sure the four young men in custody -- but not formally charged in the case -- have more information to divulge.

"I have no doubt that they know what and who and where and when and why and how. I have no doubt," Twitty said on NBC's "Today Show."

"The only thing I think there are some other individuals, though, that need to be pursued, and I know the local authorities are doing that and will be doing that," she added.

More

75 posted on 06/23/2005 12:11:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

PVDS may have advised on how to cover-up.


76 posted on 06/23/2005 12:12:19 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: maggiefluffs

Hope Greta doesn't hurt her arm patting herself on the back.


77 posted on 06/23/2005 12:12:25 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Palladin
We didn't see all of Greta's interviews. There may have been some interesting things said by one or both of the VDS parents that Greta held back from us....telling only the police.

She may indeed be a Mark Fuhrman counterpart!

Leni

78 posted on 06/23/2005 12:13:41 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Florida Freepers: Check out the Florida Forum. Click the Florida Flag on Your Profile Page)
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To: MinuteGal

Note: House boarded up. Island homes may have hinged shutters on them in case of storms so they can quickly be closed and shuttered.


79 posted on 06/23/2005 12:13:52 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, mofo!)
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To: Palladin

CNN is following Greta!

LOL


80 posted on 06/23/2005 12:14:04 PM PDT by maggief
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