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Gas prices hit high
CNN ^ | August 14, 2005

Posted on 08/15/2005 6:06:24 AM PDT by BulletBobCo

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To: thackney; superiorslots

A friend of mine replaced his stock air filter with a k&n replacement in his diesel work truck. Just replacing that filter wiht a $50 after market replacement gave him an extra 2 miles per gallon. This truck runs 50000 miles a year.


261 posted on 08/16/2005 10:54:14 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: norraad
alot of this type of intricate planned obsolescence

I knew that when I bought the 87 Caprice. 60,000 mile warranty. No problem whatsoever until 61,000 miles, then all the tin parts started to come apart. Those automotive engineers know their stuff, no question.

262 posted on 08/16/2005 11:16:40 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: BulletBobCo

I have a Honda Insight. Sucks to be everyone else...


263 posted on 08/16/2005 11:17:23 AM PDT by mudblood
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To: mudblood
See how much that Nearsight costs you down the road.

I have two good old regular vehicles with over half a million miles on them combined.

My per mile costs are a tiny fraction of what yours will be.

264 posted on 08/16/2005 11:30:04 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: norraad

What, because I'll have to buy battery at some point to replace the old one? I've had this car, which has never broken down, since Feb 2001. That's 4 years. I fill it up maybe twice a month. A new battery costs a little under 3k, should I need one, and statistically I may have 5 more years. The good news for me is I want to upgrade to a Prius (mine is a 2-seater).

A little Math:
4 yrs gas for me has been about $2112 at $2 a gallon, twice a month.

These are all numbers that I can live with. I was being permissive with that $2 a gallon too :) We all know they haven't been that low in 2 years. And the way things are looking, they'll be as high as $3 or more before long.

I also have a good old regular vehicle which has served me well too. I'd like to get a nice regular Mustang one day, because they are quite cool. But for day to day stuff, I'll save my good hard cash for Wendy's and KFC.


265 posted on 08/16/2005 1:19:56 PM PDT by mudblood
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To: mudblood
Good attitude, like your style, like KFC& Wendy's too.

My point is to focus behind the scenes.

The man behind the curtain.

Sneakyman Inc.

We could have easily had reduced consumption 30% as of 50 years ago.

Imagine not needing any oil from towelhead land ever, that's what could easily have happened.

The whole scenerio could have developed much differently.

I would have liked to have seen that happen.

I'm glad you enjoy your hybrid, but as far as addressing the problem wholistically, it's a bandaid on a gunshot wound.

266 posted on 08/16/2005 8:25:08 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
  Jesus said FOAD before he wept, I'll have you know.

Yeah, but wasn't "FOAD" an Aramaic expression for "dang it, there's something in my eye"??!?

OK... nah, not really. I got no dog in this fight. I'm just joshin' ya ;-) It's just that this thread's gotten altogether too damn serious.

267 posted on 08/16/2005 9:19:57 PM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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To: Heyworth

So everyone understands. Gas tax is computeed per gallon, not per dollar of gas purchased. So it is better that it be cheaper, up to a certain point, so people buy more gas more often


268 posted on 08/16/2005 9:45:18 PM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: biblewonk

I doubt crude reached its peak (meaning going downhill after).. We're finding more lall the time. Its a matter of extraction. RTight now, and for the next 70 years, we have as much oil as we can get out of the ground with the equipment available to pump in a 24/7 period. The bottleneck is at the refinery level.. Because of that, the price is so high. Part of the price issue is because of the weakend dollar making imported commodoties more expensive, but that does not account for all of the current $67 a barrel price..


269 posted on 08/16/2005 9:53:50 PM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Terabitten

A lot of it has to do with speculation. Don't forget though a weakened dollar means imported raw materials cost much more...


270 posted on 08/16/2005 9:54:58 PM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: redgolum

The question is how much pain it is going to take till reality comes back into the market. And yes, I suspect this is going to get a lot of Dems elected in 06 and 08.




Which is exactly the point of all this MSM trying to talk down the economy. All it takes is for one house of Congress to change hands in '06. Then you'll see the RATS starting up endless congressional committees on the conduct of the war, oil prices, and everything else under the sun. You can bet your bottom dollar that Karl Rove would be dragged in front of several committees. The stakes are high here, folks.


271 posted on 08/16/2005 10:02:02 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Jaysin
I agree with you on that, but a temporary rollback on gas tax would be appreciated and at least show that the government is doing SOMETHING to help us out.

The Republican Party has clearly demonstrated its complete lack of interest in reducing Big Stupid Government tax revenues or insane spending increases.

So there will be no rollback, much less a real cut in taxes.

272 posted on 08/16/2005 10:20:04 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Schwaeky

We pump 29 billion barrels per year right now, at a 3 percent increase per year demand would call for 230 billion barrels per year in 70 years. In other words, you're dreaming!!! Even with a 1 dollar per gallon increase we are seeing a 1 percent increase in demand. If we get gas to 3.00 per gallon demand might stay flat for a couple of years. Peak oil is just around the corner.


273 posted on 08/17/2005 4:54:23 AM PDT by biblewonk (A house of cards built on Matt 16:18)
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To: appalachian_dweller

We were at Costco the other day, and went back after dinner for gas, and the price had risen 9 cents in an hour.


274 posted on 08/17/2005 5:26:23 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Just one more reason to hate the government....)
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To: Fresh Wind
It has to add something directly to the price, but when the winter formulation kicks in, my gas mileage drops by about 10%.

In the winter, a lot of the "byproduct" from the summer months gets blended back into the gas. This stuff is of a higher vapor pressure, and contains less energy. So a drop in fuel economy is expected.

275 posted on 08/17/2005 6:12:01 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: balch3
Which is exactly the point of all this MSM trying to talk down the economy. All it takes is for one house of Congress to change hands in '06.

Just heard today that orders in my field and ticking down. We make a feedstock for many foods (protein), and the buyers are scaling back due to high shipping costs.

I have been in commodity markets for awhile, and I have a feeling that this is the opening round in a down turn. The price for everything is going up, but the household incomes will not match the increases in the short term. That means many people are going to have to cut back. Which just increases the problem as sales decline, causing prices to rise or production cut back etc.

276 posted on 08/17/2005 6:31:11 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

A mustang buddy on another site is a carpenty trimmer for upscale houses in northern virginia/DC. He said people asking for quotes over the last 2-3 months have really dropped off. He does not yet know of it's a fluke or a legitimiate dry spell. The last 4-5 years have been great and the last 2 years he has turned down all new work because he had people lined up on a waiting list.


277 posted on 08/17/2005 7:44:44 AM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: RightWhale

Must be a 305 chevy powered caprice.. My 307 olds powered 86 is at 214k and still runs strong.. looks like heck and I dejunked the smog crap off, but it runs great...


278 posted on 08/17/2005 8:49:52 PM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by a majority vote" Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Schwaeky

It's the 4.2 6. What is that in cu in?


279 posted on 08/17/2005 9:10:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: RightWhale
B I G !

Even big engines can be very efficient.

I was serious when I spoke of hundreds of years of innovations just waiting to be implemented.

The Man Who Fell to Earth by Walter Tevis (wrote Hustler),

pegged it in this novel of the 1950's (later a movie in the 70's) about control and attenuation of applied technology.

Metaphorically, it reminds me of Chris Rocks bit;

"Cure for cancer?.., are you kidding?,

They're still mad over the money they lost curing polio!!!"

280 posted on 08/18/2005 8:15:02 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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