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Fired CBSer Cries Foul (Mary Mapes: names FreeRepublic.com as "the birth of political jihad")
NY Post ^ | 10/5/5 | Adam Buckman

Posted on 10/05/2005 7:01:20 AM PDT by dead

October 5, 2005 -- THE producer at the center of last year's "Memogate" scandal at CBS News says she was derailed by a vast right-wing conspiracy.

The producer, Mary Mapes, is one of four CBS staffers fired last January in the wake of the scandal.

She is convinced she was the victim of a group of loosely associated Internet bloggers "with a harsh political bent" who pounced on CBS News minutes after the airing of the now-infamous Texas Air National Guard story on "60 Minutes 2" in September 2004...

"Within a few minutes, I was online visiting Websites I had never heard of before: Free Republic, Little Green Footballs, Power Line," writes Mapes...

"They were hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative sites loaded with vitriol about Dan Rather and CBS."

"This was something else, something new and fundamentally frightening," Mapes writes. "I had never seen this kind of response to any story.

"It dawned on me that I was present at the birth of a political jihad."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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281 posted on 10/05/2005 8:29:09 AM PDT by KStorm (The lib idea of national security is thus: which fox do we want to guard us hens?)
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To: dead
I can't help but wonder whether Mary Mapes and her cronies know they are full of crap that they have deluded themselves, are just so perverted that they can no longer tell the difference, or are just plain liars.

Pathetic any way you look at it.

282 posted on 10/05/2005 8:29:14 AM PDT by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: dead

Best. DU. Post. EVER!


283 posted on 10/05/2005 8:30:03 AM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: dead

Anyone whose name is out in the public can write a book that includes vicious insults of conservatives, and sell a few hundred thousand copies. The more extreme, the better.

This sells books. I'm sure she knows that the documents are fake, but there are millions of deranged liberals out there, and some of them buy books, and that's the bottom line.


284 posted on 10/05/2005 8:30:18 AM PDT by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: dead

Yeah right, Ms. Progressive! This is from a woman who, according to her own (estranged) dad, went into journalism to "change the world".


285 posted on 10/05/2005 8:30:38 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: dead
""This was something else, something new and fundamentally frightening," Mapes writes. "I had never seen this kind of response to any story."

Yep, I guess for a TV "journalist" or a "producer", the truth can be fundamentally frightening.

286 posted on 10/05/2005 8:30:43 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: dead

could somebody please freepmail me the remainder of the article? i don't wanna register.


287 posted on 10/05/2005 8:31:39 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: AFPhys; Rebelbase; Carolinamom; Mo1; kcvl; TankerKC; Buckhead
"Within a few minutes, I was online visiting Websites I had never heard of before: Free Republic, Little Green Footballs, Power Line," writes Mapes...

Simply stated, she's a flat out liar.

It was on Free Republic by 8:15, BEFORE the segment was over, but it wasn't posted on LGF and PL until after 7 a.m. the next morning.

288 posted on 10/05/2005 8:31:49 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: dead
I'd have gotten away with it too...if it wasn't for those meddling freepers!!!
289 posted on 10/05/2005 8:32:17 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: dead
I had never seen this kind of response to any story.

"It dawned on me that I was present at the birth of a political jihad.

The key phrases in Mary Mapes diatribe is her saying after the story broke she was visiting web sites she had never heard of... She admits she did not know of the methods and techniques that could be used to reveal her deception. Had she known of Free Republic and similar sites it seems clear that she and Rather would have tried a different tact to fool the people.

Her statements read like those made by a robber who did not know about fingerprints before he left them at the scene of the crime.

The point that can be easily deduced from Mapes statements is that neither She nor Rather were aware of the capabilities of the media that proved their duplicity.

For many decades the main stream media could attack innocent conservatives with lies and make them stick. Those days are over.

No one with a brain could believe that both Mapes and Rather did not know the documents were fake. What they did not know is that the means to prove they were fake and the means to publish that information existed.

Free Republic members like Buckhead are not super brainy Einsteins with super natural abilities. Buckhead is a very bright man with very good investigative skills. Buckhead had knowledge of what documents looked like before ink jet and laser printers made inexpensive proportional typed documents available to everyone. He also knew what modern computer printed documents looked like.

He knew they were fake just by looking at the internet downloaded documents. Buckhead knew they had to be created on a modern computer using a laser or ink jet printer not available at the time the documents were supposedly created. With that basic knowledge proving the documents fake was a piece of cake.

No one will every make me believe that Mapes and Rather did not know the documents were fake. If they did not know they were fake they would NOT have hired people to only check the parts of the documents that could not be proven fake. Mapes and Rather are not dumb. Before the broadcast they tried to create the illusion that the documents had been checked by experts. But they limited the checks to those parts of the documents that could not be proven fake. That shows they had to have anticipated challenges to the documents authenticity. But they did not know the actual absolute proof that the documents were fake would be available on millions of computer screen within hours.

From the MSM coverage of the story we can deduce that many MSM organizations are still not aware of what the web can do.

Mapes and Rather are just ignorant. They certainly knew that people like Buckhead were out there. But without the technology to get accurate copies of the original documents and with out a way to publish findings, the Buckheads of yesteryear could not reasonably be expected to make such discoveries and could not be expected to find a way to publish them even if they could.

Mapes and Rather had to believe they could get away with it. And they may very well have gotten away with similar deceptions many times before.

The internet changed the rules of the game and Mapes and Rather admit they did not know the new rules. They do now.

Mapes is angry because she was unaware of what the new media can do. It allows ordinary citizens with no ax to grind to rapidly get the information used to make discoveries and to publish their discoveries world wide within hours.

Mapes and Rather now know that their common technique to propagate criminal deceptions and lies can no longer prevail. They are very angry.

Mapes and Rather .. Still Lying after all these years.


290 posted on 10/05/2005 8:35:04 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Good grief. The disgraced media calls FReepers terrorists, but defines the real terrorists as insurgents and freedom fighters.

"It dawned on me that I was present at the birth of a political jihad."

291 posted on 10/05/2005 8:35:08 AM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: dead
I had never seen this kind of response to any story.

"It dawned on me that I was present at the birth of a political jihad.

The key phrases in Mary Mapes diatribe is her saying after the story broke she was visiting web sites she had never heard of... She admits she did not know of the methods and techniques that could be used to reveal her deception. Had she known of Free Republic and similar sites it seems clear that she and Rather would have tried a different tact to fool the people.

Her statements read like those made by a robber who did not know about fingerprints before he left them at the scene of the crime.

The point that can be easily deduced from Mapes statements is that neither She nor Rather were aware of the capabilities of the media that proved their duplicity.

For many decades the main stream media could attack innocent conservatives with lies and make them stick. Those days are over.

No one with a brain could believe that both Mapes and Rather did not know the documents were fake. What they did not know is that the means to prove they were fake and the means to publish that information existed.

Free Republic members like Buckhead are not super brainy Einsteins with super natural abilities. Buckhead is a very bright man with very good investigative skills. Buckhead had knowledge of what documents looked like before ink jet and laser printers made inexpensive proportional typed documents available to everyone. He also knew what modern computer printed documents looked like.

He knew they were fake just by looking at the internet downloaded documents. Buckhead knew they had to be created on a modern computer using a laser or ink jet printer not available at the time the documents were supposedly created. With that basic knowledge proving the documents fake was a piece of cake.

No one will every make me believe that Mapes and Rather did not know the documents were fake. If they did not know they were fake they would NOT have hired people to only check the parts of the documents that could not be proven fake. Mapes and Rather are not dumb. Before the broadcast they tried to create the illusion that the documents had been checked by experts. But they limited the checks to those parts of the documents that could not be proven fake. That shows they had to have anticipated challenges to the documents authenticity. But they did not know the actual absolute proof that the documents were fake would be available on millions of computer screen within hours.

From the MSM coverage of the story we can deduce that many MSM organizations are still not aware of what the web can do.

Mapes and Rather are just ignorant. They certainly knew that people like Buckhead were out there. But without the technology to get accurate copies of the original documents and with out a way to publish findings, the Buckheads of yesteryear could not reasonably be expected to make such discoveries and could not be expected to find a way to publish them even if they could.

Mapes and Rather had to believe they could get away with it. And they may very well have gotten away with similar deceptions many times before.

The internet changed the rules of the game and Mapes and Rather admit they did not know the new rules. They do now.

Mapes is angry because she was unaware of what the new media can do. It allows ordinary citizens with no ax to grind to rapidly get the information used to make discoveries and to publish their discoveries world wide within hours.

Mapes and Rather now know that their common technique to propagate criminal deceptions and lies can no longer prevail. They are very angry.

Mapes and Rather .. Still Lying after all these years.


292 posted on 10/05/2005 8:35:08 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: hispanarepublicana

http://www.bugmenot.com/

never register for another site


293 posted on 10/05/2005 8:35:22 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: dead

Fatwa issued for Mary Mapes.


294 posted on 10/05/2005 8:37:59 AM PDT by AliVeritas (("Free Republic, the birth of political jihad" - Mary Mapes))
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To: dead

Love it. Thanks for posting.


295 posted on 10/05/2005 8:38:53 AM PDT by cgk (Bennett: If we are surrounded by the trivial & vicious, it is all too easy to make our peace with it)
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To: dead

How can that be? The show aired on September 8th.


296 posted on 10/05/2005 8:38:58 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: MeanWestTexan
"The fact she had never heard of any of the conservative websites tells you what a liberal bubble she lived in."

Obviously she never watched the opposition news channels. Fox News, especially Brit Hume's program featured graphics by FR's "Registered," ie., the "Sore/Loserman" signs that were all over the place, plus Freepers outside the V.P.'s residence in 2000, telling Gore to "get out of Cheney's House!"

297 posted on 10/05/2005 8:39:00 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: dead

Well...Mary..we've tried our best. Glad you liked it.


298 posted on 10/05/2005 8:40:52 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Cindy Sheehan, American Traitor)
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To: AliVeritas

LOL!


299 posted on 10/05/2005 8:41:19 AM PDT by RDTF
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To: Howlin
How can that be? The show aired on September 8th.

And the DU post is from the next morning, September 9th.

300 posted on 10/05/2005 8:42:30 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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