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1 posted on 11/10/2005 4:02:22 AM PST by johnny7
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Then why did the GOP actually gain a seat in the VA big 3(Lt. Gov. and Atty. Gen.)


2 posted on 11/10/2005 4:03:56 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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Just wait. The bushbot choir will be along shortly to sing his and the other RINO's praises.


3 posted on 11/10/2005 4:04:09 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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The fact that Kilgore ran an awful campaign probably had more to do with his loss than anything else. It's easier to simply blame the President, though.


4 posted on 11/10/2005 4:05:25 AM PST by The Phantom FReeper (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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There's no other way to explain it.

Hmm, how about taking responsibility for your own actions for a change instead of blaming everyone else.

6 posted on 11/10/2005 4:06:19 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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"Mr. Kaine, the current lieutenant governor, defeated Republican Jerry W. Kilgore by six percentage points in a contest that had been a statistical dead heat in the days before the election."

Do we know where all the King County, Wa. voting machines are?


9 posted on 11/10/2005 4:10:19 AM PST by Gum Shoe
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Delegate David B. Albo, a Republican who narrowly defeated his Democratic challenger in Fairfax County.

Why is he complaining, if he won?

11 posted on 11/10/2005 4:11:11 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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My only question would be:

Is Bush's popularity, or lack thereof, the reason they also lost the Governor's seat four years ago?


12 posted on 11/10/2005 4:11:34 AM PST by dawn53
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This is the perception and suspicion that will become reality until Bush &Co. go on the offensive. When you stand around and let someone call you "liar" and malign your character, you risk losing credibility and popularity. You can't lend much moral support when you allow yourself to be labeled in this manner.


14 posted on 11/10/2005 4:14:10 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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I guess in 2001 Bush sank the GOP nominee in Virginia when he had an 85% approval rating?


15 posted on 11/10/2005 4:14:39 AM PST by RWR8189 (George Allen 2008)
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Anyone who uses Hitler in their ads, even a Republican, deserves to lose. Period.


26 posted on 11/10/2005 4:24:28 AM PST by Jedi Jake (www.bingewars.com)
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Best analysis that I saw pointed out that the GOP Lt. Gov and GOP Atty. Gen. received significantly more votes than the GOP candidate for governnor.

Conclusions? The candidate didn't attract votes and there is no strong link between not winning the governorship and the national political scene.

31 posted on 11/10/2005 4:30:16 AM PST by Cboldt
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We know that George Bush is just killing us," said Delegate David B. Albo, a Republican who narrowly defeated his Democratic challenger in Fairfax County.

If this is true, why did the majority of voters say that the President did not affect their votes?

Methinks this twerp is just looking for a scapegoat. Sad to say, but that is becoming an increasingly 'Pubbie politician position these days.

Hmmmmm, starts to remind me of the whiners on the left.

34 posted on 11/10/2005 4:32:01 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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A finer pile a bull has never made..


37 posted on 11/10/2005 4:37:50 AM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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There were a lot of factors here including Warners popularity, bad news for REpublicans for the past few months etc. Bush's low approval definitely did not help any but also remember when Bush's approval was in the 80s the Dem won VA


39 posted on 11/10/2005 4:38:57 AM PST by DM1
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Much as I like Dave, he is totally wrong on this.

We had a Republican candidate for governor who wasn't all that clearly "pro-life", didn't take a no-tax pledge, and was not fully forthcoming regarding the Second Amendment.

The so-called "religious right" has sufficient numbers to make the difference in any Virginia election. All they have to do is walk in the booth and fail to vote for any candidate who doesn't speak to them.

At the same time we picked up the Lt. Governor's position.

I'd suggest this Islamofascist Governor of ours'd best not visit his little friends in New Jersey or he won't have an office if he gets back.

40 posted on 11/10/2005 4:39:11 AM PST by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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Four things:

1) Wasn't the President's personal involvement limited to the final 24 hours or so of the campaign?
2) Isn't Presidential involvement in a local campaign usually the result of a specific request from the candidate?
3) I don't remember hearing/reading anything to the effect that the President's assistance was not wanted.
4) The candidate approves/disapproves of campaign strategy, in this case a conscious decision was made to align himself with the President.

On the surface it would appear that the candidate refuses to accept responsibility for his own decisions. Not exactly a desirable leadership trait.


44 posted on 11/10/2005 4:40:30 AM PST by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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Not having read the entire article....(without signing in)...I'm surprised this is the Washington Times headline.

They're usually more positive toward President Bush....not negative.

49 posted on 11/10/2005 4:46:19 AM PST by Guenevere
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It was a dumb move for Bush to campaign at the last minute for Kilgore. Second term presidents usually aren't helpful in elections not their own. Running commercials about the death penalty shows that the guy didn't have a clue as to what people cared about.


61 posted on 11/10/2005 4:54:22 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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What a total crock. VA has always leaned toward the Socialist/Liberals because it is such a HUGE WELFARE state.


67 posted on 11/10/2005 4:57:38 AM PST by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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If this is true than the people in Virginia are major league ash holes. Voting rat or not voting because they don't like Bush is stupid, but then again there is never any shortage of stupid people in this world.


72 posted on 11/10/2005 5:10:16 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Everything points to it so why not call them the Whigs?)
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