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Missing Lancaster Teenager [Update: Girl Found Unharmed in Indiana]
KYW News Radio ^ | November 13, 2005

Posted on 11/13/2005 2:15:56 PM PST by grjr21

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To: bonfire

Yes, if it was violent-type writing he did (to hurt someone else or himself), I would tell them.


581 posted on 11/16/2005 6:22:48 PM PST by Cedar
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To: cyn

Good words about Corinthians 6.

Yes, God delivers us from many things!


582 posted on 11/16/2005 6:27:06 PM PST by Cedar
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To: cmotormac44
Well, if her present is indicative of her futire, she will be quite successful. She's an honor student in 7th grade taking HS level honors classes, fluent in 2 languages (learning a third), active in her youth group and clubs within her school, involved in sports and in honors Chorus, plays the violin rather well, and she waxes her eyebrows. She has parents who emphasize character rather than characteristics.

If you are insinuating my daughter will be a "floozie" because she waxes her eyebrows and cares about her appearance, then it is you "lady" who has a lot to learn.

583 posted on 11/16/2005 6:52:21 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: LikeLight; Valpal1; cyn; cookiedough; Doc Savage; bonfire; Dr. Scarpetta
IANAL, but I think there's no such thing as "Statutory Rape" in PA anymore. There's statutory sexual assault (and a deviate sexual intercourse version, too). Question is, how is the age difference measured?

Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes
CRIMES AND OFFENSES (TITLE 18)
ARTICLE B. OFFENSES INVOLVING DANGER TO THE PERSON.
CHAPTER 31 - SEXUAL OFFENSES

§ 3122. Statutory rape (Repealed).

§ 3122.1. Statutory sexual assault.
Except as provided in section 3121 (relating to rape), a person commits a felony of the second degree when that person engages in sexual intercourse with a complainant under the age of 16 years and that person is four or more years older than the complainant and the complainant and the person are not married to each other.

584 posted on 11/16/2005 7:42:07 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: PleaseNoMore

Funny how styles change. When I was young, thick "Elizabeth Taylor" eyebrows were the epitome of beauty.

I can't get used to the pencil-thin eyebrows on my granddaughters.


585 posted on 11/16/2005 7:45:24 PM PST by Palladin (There ain't nobody here but us chickens. (Senate Dems Theme Song))
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To: Gondring

He probably won't face statutory sexual assault charges simply because they have murder and kidnap now.

It would be greek tragedy if one of his motivations was that the parents had threatened him with statutory charges that he wouldn't have actually even been liable for under PA laws.

I'm guessing that they count by number of months. 48+ months older and you can be charged. 47- and your safe. Seems stupid, but they have to draw the line somewhere.


586 posted on 11/16/2005 8:11:45 PM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: Valpal1

We'd need their birthdays, right?


587 posted on 11/16/2005 8:14:47 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Yes, I wonder if they have them on their blogs?


588 posted on 11/16/2005 8:57:19 PM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: cyn
[Two older brothers do not live at home. . . I agree. And unfortunately, she really needs her mother now. She noted in her weblog (posted above by Gondring) several months ago how good it was to talk with her mother]

Did not know about the two older. (college...married...missionaries?)

The whole thing incredible. . .two parents trying to bring sense to an 'out-of-control' situation; doing the right thing; killed instantly.

In Lititz, Pa. yet. . .

As to her 'liking to talk to her Mother'. . .wonder if that written before this 'kid' became her focus or not. .

589 posted on 11/16/2005 9:02:52 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: Gondring
Thanks for the link.. .am not home and so have not been plugged in to the news as much as I normally am.

Good synopsis. . .of a really sad story.

590 posted on 11/16/2005 9:22:19 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: cyn

Did you see this post on the lancasteronline site

taxpayer17578
11-16-2005

I don't understand why nobody has bothered to speak up about something that some of us local people know -- so I will. David "allegedly" kidnapped another girl he was seeing over the summer. He "allegedly" stole his parents' car, guns, $10K, and took her to the mountains. Her parents "allegedly" didn't press charges because they went to the same church. It was after this that he supposedly had his rededication to Christ. The police know this, interviewed the girl this week, yet have not released this information to the media. I, in some ways, can understand why the girl and her parents didn't press charges -- she was traumatized and they were glad she was ok and maybe David was a minor then, but WHY his parents didn't get him help THEN is beyond me and shows a severe lack of parenting. And, the online pics David posted on his myspace account of himself at the hunting cabin drinking beer with an adult (dad?) present shows the other side of someone people keep trying to paint as an innocent kid, and also paint a truer picture of his home life. It's sad when parents don't care enough to hold their children accountable for their actions. It's a tragedy.


591 posted on 11/16/2005 9:22:22 PM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: Valpal1

http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/18650 -- scroll down to last posts

Hi, yes, I did. Yikes! Doesn't that shake things up even more, if true! If ever there was a place to insert "alleged", there it is ... starting with "alleged local".

posted at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1523414/posts


592 posted on 11/16/2005 9:35:44 PM PST by cyn
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To: Palladin

To me, the no eyebrow look is clownlike. I like natural looking eyebrows. Someone posted a pic of Audrey Hepburn the other day. She was a real natural looking beauty.


593 posted on 11/16/2005 9:45:16 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: cricket; Gondring

I dunno. That post was from ... June, I think? She seems to have gone in and out of having a "right mind". [How can you tell with teens? They can be so moody, each one is different, and every day brings something new! That's why I pray for wisdom... even when things seem to be going ok. ]

But a parent should tell when something's up, and when "NO" needs to be said. I truly wonder what her parents sensed*, esp. since her mother had apparently discussed her distress with her friends. But if that's true, why not crack down?

Distress ... how's that for an understatement! I'm not sure why there wasn't a firmer response, earlier, especially since the stakes were so high (ie, their daughter's and family's wellbeing).

I agree -- the tragedy is that the parents were finally getting to the point of getting a grasp on the situation (it was unavoidable, in their faces!), then were suddenly literally removed from the picture. Just when they were needed the most. I mourn what coulda, shoulda been for that family.



*sensed? If it's true a boy was sneaking into their home, why would they not know of it in some way? Was Kara's room so far away that they couldn't tell? (another reason I like our smaller house, h'mm)


594 posted on 11/16/2005 10:01:32 PM PST by cyn
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To: cyn

...and were the two older brothers, the traditional protectors of little sisters (lol, how I know that!) oblivious, unaware as well? Are they in the area so that Kara's concerned friends could have gone to them? Why was David not afraid of them, of any repercussions? Tedn't natural...


595 posted on 11/16/2005 10:07:30 PM PST by cyn
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To: right wing
The thing that got me in her chat transcript, was where she said that they were going to "take care of it".

We may never know, or she may sing like a canary if she thinks she'll go to jail!

596 posted on 11/16/2005 11:31:25 PM PST by blondee123
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To: cyn
Narcissistic, immature . . . What did he figure would happen after he'd shot her parents? What on earth was that about?

I do believe you are right, he's definitely narcissicstic or a sociopath, he has an entire site with all pictures of himself!

597 posted on 11/16/2005 11:36:54 PM PST by blondee123
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To: cyn

On CTV a local said the murderous boy took off with a girl, money and his family car last summer..but the girl's parents did not press charges because they all belonged to the same church..He seemed to have had no repercussions for his bad acts.

He sounds totally obsessive.


598 posted on 11/17/2005 1:01:57 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Valpal1

Zodiacal signs, I think, but I haven't checked what they mean...but my point is that she was possibly "legal" for him.


599 posted on 11/17/2005 5:22:51 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: cyn

Someone mentioned "pregnant" on that link. Never occured to me but if they had been having sex, it's not farfetched. And it DOES sound like they were sexually active.

What a mess.


600 posted on 11/17/2005 5:30:29 AM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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