Hollowed bullet easy to get & hard to survive

NY Daily News ^ | 12/12/05 | ALISON GENDAR and DAVE GOLDINER

[kiriath_jearim]

Hollowed bullet easy to get & hard to survive

BY ALISON GENDAR and DAVE GOLDINER DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Hollow-point bullets like the one used in the slaying of Officer Daniel Enchautegui are much deadlier than ordinary bullets - and nearly as easy to get.

Cops favor using the hollow-point bullets because they are less likely to pass through a target and ricochet into a fellow cop or bystander.

But they want their public sale banned to keep them out of the hands of thugs like Enchautegui's alleged killers, Steven Armento and Lillo Brancato.

"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."

Armento allegedly shot Enchautegui with his father's .357-caliber handgun, loaded with the hollow-point bullets.

Anyone with a gun permit can buy the hollow-points in a gun shop. They also are readily available on the black market.

"Anybody can go out and buy them," said Michael Palladino, head of the Detectives' Endowment Association.

The main difference between hollow-point and regular, "full-metal jacket" bullets is that the hollow-points flatten on impact and expand inside a target.

The NYPD switched to the new ammo in 1999.

"They are less likely to penetrate the intended target and hit a bystander," said Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne.

An on-duty cop's bulletproof vest would likely provide the same protection from a hollow-point as a regular bullet.

[TChris]

Holy cow! It took until 1999 for the NYPD to start using hollowpoints!? Amazing...

[beebuster2000]

interestingly, in many states only expanding bullets are legal for hunting since solid bullets just dont work and result in a wounded animal running off.

odd that the reverse is generally true under geneva convention, i believe. no doubt a freeper will double check me on that.

[RambozoDClown]

I'll give them my hollow points...........

[michaelbfree]

"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."

Idiot - as a private citizen I have the right to defend myself and my home with the best ammo I can buy - I have just as much of a right to protect myself against violent felons as you do - ignorant @hole.....

[xusafflyer]

"They also are readily available on the black market."
"Anyone with a gun permit can buy the hollow-points in a gun shop."

I am completely confused by this article.

You have to have a gun permit to buy them legally and violent felons don't have gun permits...therefore, violent felons are not buying the hollow points from the legal market.

Simple logic escapes New York. But again, these cop "organizations" are nothing more than liberal groups acting as self appointed spokesmen. LAPD has the same problem.

[Mr. Jeeves]

"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."

So then I can expect two of your hollow-point armed officers to come and maintain a 24x7 watch over my life and property? ;)

[LambSlave]

Not so pointy end first...??

[Monterrosa-24]

Some never see a proposed regulation that they don't like. This cannot be regulated. One could buy old-fashioned 38 special lead round-nosed bullets, flatten the nose, deep criss cross the nose, and have bullets that deliver more energy shallow like hollow points. With full metal jacketed rounds the tips can be sawed off. Criminals are the problem, not the guns, knifes, and crow bars they use.

[najida]

Somewhere in a drawer in my house is a box of Black Talons.

[JimRed]

"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."

So, the public has no right to self defense, Mr. Lynch?

[SWAMPSNIPER]

More NOOYAWK bulldooky!

[paul51]

"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."

Hey fool, that's the same reason I have them.

[wideawake]

Pat Lynch is essentially a union boss - one expects him to make stupid and fascist comments in keeping with the union standard.

[Dead Corpse]

Hornady XTP's rock.

That being said, this author is an idiot. Didn't stop to think that anyone with a drill press and some re-loading equipment can make all the "hollow point" bullts out of FMJ that they want.

[xsrdx]

"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."

Completely out of his freakin' PBA mind. What could this dipswitch POSSIBLY be thinking to make such a misguided statement? OMG.

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Is the 'Talon' still out there somewhere? I haven't heard about them in a while.

[Uri’el-2012]

Holy cow! It took until 1999 for the NYPD to start using hollowpoints!? Amazing...

These are the same people that required Glock
to put a 12.5 lb trigger on a gun
which comes with a 5.5 lb trigger.

[jjm2111]

"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."..."Anyone with a gun permit can buy the hollow-points in a gun shop. They also are readily available on the black market."

Good thinking there Lynchie. Prevent law-abiding citizens from purchasing hollowpoints while allowing criminals to buy them from the trunk of a car.

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I should have read down to your post. I was wondering if they were still kicking.