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Students Reject Honor to 'Baa Baa Black Sheep' Hero (Col. Greg "Pappy" Boyington)
Worldnet Daily ^ | 2-14-06

Posted on 02/14/2006 9:56:57 AM PST by Littlejon

Member of Marines not 'sort of person UW wanted to produce'

The University of Washington's student senate rejected a memorial for alumnus Gregory "Pappy" Boyington of "Black Sheep Squadron" fame amid concerns a military hero who shot down enemy planes was not the right kind of person to represent the school.

Student senator Jill Edwards, according to minutes of the student government's meeting last week, said she "didn't believe a member of the Marine Corps was an example of the sort of person UW wanted to produce."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: anamericansoldier; antiwaractivists; benedictarnold; blacksheep; boyington; campus; codepink; education; marines; pappyboyington; passheraroundthebase; stupidsneversleep; university; usmc; uw; waaaahhhh; warmemorial; warmemorials; washington; wwii
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To: Mulder

I hope so, but I fear we will pay a high price.


81 posted on 02/14/2006 8:14:49 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: river rat

OK now that has to go down inmmy books as yer best post of the year rat !

Damn funny & True !

ROTFLMAO !!

IMHO Pappy's deserves a better place than that den of socialist shit 'n shineola called a "skuol"........

Stay safe !


82 posted on 02/14/2006 8:22:33 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
Happy you enjoyed it...
Our left coast crazies are the looniest on the planet...

I've read a little about Col. Boyington...
He was an alcoholic, self promoting climber and many of the men he led have spoken out against him.
Nevertheless, they acknowledged he was a fine combat pilot.
He was a man with clay feet....like all of us...
He was no saint...

That being said...
He was was a hell of a pilot, and did more than his fair share of fighting....
This country would be well served to have more like him.....perhaps a little more sober.

Warriors are not meant to be the gentlemen sweet little old ladies invite to sit on the porch in Charleston and sip Mint Juleps.....
Hmmm.. though I have known such women that KNOW how to handle such men in polite company...

For his own school to refuse him a place of honor - diminishes the school - not Col. Boyington..

Semper Fi

83 posted on 02/14/2006 8:56:11 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Squantos

I forgot to add....
Still looking forward to having drinks and a meal with you...
Anywhere within a couple hundred miles of SJ is okay with me.

Semper Fi


84 posted on 02/14/2006 8:59:03 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

Well stated as to diminishing the school and not Pappy.....

I should be back around late May or early June for a trip to LLNL.....will make a point of breakin bread with ya this time if your home !

Stay safe RR !


85 posted on 02/14/2006 9:10:24 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

That time frame should work for me....
Based on what I know today...

Stay safe..

Semper Fi


86 posted on 02/14/2006 9:14:15 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Littlejon

Boortz has a piece on this up today:

http://boortz.com/nuze/200602/02152006.html#pappy


87 posted on 02/15/2006 5:54:59 AM PST by bamahead (DeLay declares 'victory' in war on budget fat - Washington Times 9/14/05)
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To: bamahead

Here is Boortz's excellent piece...

HE FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY ... BUT HE'S NOT WORTHY.

His name was Gregory Boyington. Some called him "Pappy." He served as a combat pilot in World War II with the 1st Squadron, American Volunteer Group. This squadron was known as the Flying Tigers of China. Boyington later served as a combat pilot for the U.S. Marine Corps. He commanded Marine Fighting Squadron 214. Perhaps you've heard of this squadron. It was called the Black Sheep Squadron and was later featured in a TV series called "Baa Baa, Black Sheep." Boyington shot down 26 Japanese aircraft while serving in the Pacific. He was later shot down and spent 20 months in a Japanese POW camp. For those of you who aren't up to par on World War II history, Japanese POW camps were not happy places. Torture .. .and we mean real torture, not stripping them naked and taking snapshots. After the war Pappy Boyington was awarded the Navy Cross and the Medal of Honor. He died in 1988. You can visit his grave in Arlington National Cemetery.

Education? Oh yes! Almost forgot! Pappy Boyington was a graduate of the University of Washington. Just recently the idea of erecting a memorial to this Medal of Honor winner at the University of Washington made its way to the student senate. Here you have an alumnus who served in World War II. was captured and held, and was later awarded the Medal of Honor and the Navy Cross. Perhaps some sort of monument would be a good idea!

Well .. not to Jill Edwards. Thanks to the folks at WorldNetDaily we can show you a copy of the minutes of a meeting of the student senate at the University of Washington. Under old business there was a discussion of a resolution calling for a tribute to Pappy Boyington. Student senate member Jill Edwards immediately moved to table the resolution. She wanted other issues to be considered. Another member said that the issue was at the top of the agenda and should be dealt with. Jill's motion failed, but she wasn't through. There was then some discussion on why Andrew Everett, another student senate member, wanted the memorial. Everett responded that Colonel Boyington "had many of the qualities the University of Washington hoped to produce in its students." Well, I guess that might be true, if leadership and courage are considered to be good qualities. Anyway ... that's when Jill Edwards spoke up and showed her true colors. She questioned whether it was appropriate to honor a person who killed other people. Then the lovely Jill Edwards said that a member of the Marine Corps was not an example of the sort of person the University of Washington wanted to produce.

Shall I repeat that? Jill Edwards, a Junior in Mathematics at the University of Washington, says that a U.S. Marine is not the example of the sort of person that the University of Washington wants to produce. Let's let this sink in. To all of you men and women out there who have served with pride in the United States Marine Corps; to those of you who fought in World War II, Korea, Vietnam and the Middle East, Jill Edwards, student senate member at the University of Washington, thinks that you are unworthy to be graduates of the University of Washington. My father was a Marine. He's buried in the National Cemetery at Ft. Sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas beneath a grave market that reads "Neal A Boortz, Sr. Lt. Col. USMC. World War II, Korea, Vietnam." Therefore, I think that Jill Edwards is an ignorant fool. I would submit that Jill Edwards is am embarrassment to the University of Washington. With her mathematics degree and her leftist outlook on life my guess is that she'll end up being a teacher in a government school. Oh goody.

By the way .. there's at least one more moonbat on the U of W student senate. Her name is Ashley Miller. Ashley says that there are already enough monuments at UW commemorating "rich white men." Well .. I guess you have to get that wealth-envy stuff in there somewhere.

Don't you just love these young people? They're so much fun to watch during those magic years when they know everything and when they have all of the answers to every problem facing mankind. As I said the other day, we should take 100 volunteer members of university student senates from across the country --- and let's make sure Jill Edwards is one of them --- and give them a country to run for four years. Haiti would do just fine.

Semper Fi


88 posted on 02/15/2006 7:49:36 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

Why don't we make this a circular thread loop?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1579134/posts


89 posted on 02/15/2006 11:05:41 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: river rat

"enough monuments at UW commemorating "rich white men.""


Yes, and it will take 100 years or so for them to equalize that w/other special groups - esp. those from amongst UWA alumni!


90 posted on 02/15/2006 11:07:17 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: baldeagle390
"In war, killing is a necessary evil. ..."

While I never killed anyone during my service, if I did - I would never call that act evil!

91 posted on 02/15/2006 11:10:53 AM PST by Dacus943
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To: river rat

"Warriors are not meant to be the gentlemen sweet little old ladies invite to sit on the porch in Charleston and sip Mint Juleps"


Generals Lee and Jackson and Longstreet would take issue w/that...(as do I!)


92 posted on 02/15/2006 11:15:24 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Littlejon

If the University of Washington doesn't see fit to honor one of its alumni, a Medal of Honor winner and National Hero, then they should not receive any Federal Funding Whatsoever, even if it means losing the ROTC units there. Not one dime of my tax dollars show go to this institution of lower living.

But alas, the White House and Congress are too Cowardly and/or Lazy to ever give the thought of withholding Federal Funds to any anti-american institutions much thought.

Just the thought of watching at least half of these tenured, commie, half wit professors laid off and forced to find a real job would make all the handwringing worth it.

I would laugh my head off if the President and Congress ever found the Courage to actually just propose that Federal Funds be withheld from these types of "Educational Institutions". The Commies would be seen jumping off their Dorm Roofs.


93 posted on 02/15/2006 11:27:17 AM PST by AmericaOne
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To: Littlejon
From today's edition of The Daily:

"Senate members received hateful phone calls and e-mails after their personal information was posted on Internet sites and blogs. ASUW vice president Ashley Miller said she received between 50 and 100 threatening letters from people outside the UW community. Miller was one of the main contributors to the resolution's debate."

Cry me a river.

ASUW has now moved on to more important things like supporting raced based admissions and giving financial aid to drug abusers.

"Following commentary about last week's meeting, the senate read and passed a resolution in support of holistic admissions.

The resolution, sponsored by graduate student Will Rasmussen, opposes proposed ballot Initiative 914, which states that "public and private entities" -- including the UW -- cannot take race, sex, economic background or nationality into admissions consideration. The passed resolution displays official ASUW approval of the current holistic process.


(snip)

"Senior Karl Smith, introduced a resolution opposing financial-aid denial to students with past drug convictions. The resolution will go through its second reading next Tuesday."
94 posted on 02/15/2006 1:31:58 PM PST by The Capitalist Avenger
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I stand corrected and apologetic....
As a product of the South, myself - I should have known better..

Semper fi
95 posted on 02/15/2006 2:08:26 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

No problem. It's not just "the South", tho - warriors do not have to be mere aggressive brutes. In fact, better they aren't - you can't control them, and that means nothing but a bitter & brutal society. (Hhmm, that's just like what we say about police dogs - you can't have a "mean" dog, they are out of control and nothing more than beasts; the best warrior dogs are bold but stable and controllable.)


96 posted on 02/16/2006 4:39:15 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: randog

Corrie actually graduated from Evergreen College, which is actually even further to the left than UW. Evergreen even has a piece of quad named "Red Square."


97 posted on 02/16/2006 9:27:11 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: TLI

Dumb moonbats never learn. I have figured that out. The only way to get rid of this insanity is to get conservatives elected to student government. We did it here at UW madison.


98 posted on 02/16/2006 9:34:57 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Mr. Silverback

Which UW is further left? Washington or Wisconsin?


99 posted on 02/16/2006 9:36:02 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Criminal Number 18F

We had a Rachel Corrie want a bee go here to UW madison a few years ago, she got arrested on the West Bank trying to get to Hamas members.


100 posted on 02/16/2006 9:36:45 AM PST by Thunder90
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