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New photo resparks 'Noah's Ark mania'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | March 10, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 03/09/2006 11:30:41 PM PST by Tim Long

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To: Cliff Dweller

"and definitely as far back as when "Lucy" (Not Desi's Lucy) first walked upright, mainly in meteorites. "

I've never heard of this "Lucy walking upright in meteorites" theory. I think you are referring to the Beatles song - "Lucy in the sky with diamonds".

ampu


121 posted on 03/11/2006 8:21:58 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
If there was an ark, how did the koala eat after they landed, and how did it get back to Australia?

The Genesis account must be missing some verses where Noah swung by Mount Shrimponthebarbie and let the kangaroos, koalas, and platypusses off.

Then he must have swung by Antarctica to let the penguins off before stopping by North America to let the bison off.

Clearly some verses are missing.

122 posted on 03/11/2006 8:36:37 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: salexander

"What, they ask, will be the effect of substituting many mutations through the herd simultaneously, rather than sequentially as in the example. Surely that will save... As it turns out, it won’t"

Do you have the information handy to elaborate?

It seems likely to me that many things would be happening simultaneously. That could complicate analysis to a vast degree. For example, what if individuals had both superior and inferior traits? Might selection remove the superior traits forever? Let's give the evolution hypothesis the full benefit of the doubt and see how things turn out. If selection is advancing several new traits simultaneously, the time required for evolution to take place should be shortened. I would be interested in seeing the result of mathematical analysis.

Thanks for the post.


123 posted on 03/11/2006 8:42:11 AM PST by ChessExpert (MSM: Only good for to taking side(s))
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To: VadeRetro
You had a reptilian multipart jawbone and now you have a single mandible and multiple earbones.

LOL!! Sure I did!

Did I have x-ray vision and wings? Please tell me I had wings!

You had a tail.

I was intrigued by this comment, so to make sure, I looked back at my baby pictures and checked for a tail. You're out of luck, no tail.

124 posted on 03/11/2006 8:45:07 AM PST by Angus MacGregor (Wars are fought in the will...)
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To: Angus MacGregor
Your Nobel awaits you.
125 posted on 03/11/2006 8:57:06 AM PST by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
A helicopter made a precarious rescue at one of the camps down the mountain. It did not land on top.

Wrong!

the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI) validated and confirmed the high-altitude world record achieved with a serial AS350 B3 on May 14 and 15, 2005, with two landings and take-offs on top of Mount Everest at 8,850 meters (29,035 ft.)
126 posted on 03/11/2006 9:16:42 AM PST by Pro-Bush (The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Only if you can explain how Noah and his family kept two of every wild animal and 7 of every domesticated animal on a boat 450 feet long by 75 feet wide for 8 months.

Actually, it was 2 of every unclean animals, and 7 of all clean animals...what God deemed as food for humans and what he did not. This doesn't neccessarily translate to wild and domesticated. For example, deer are clean animals, but wild. Pigs are unclean animals, but generally considered domesticated.

And the bible speaks about "kinds". For example, wolves, coyotes and dogs are all of one kind. He would only have had to have one representative. Many animals would not have needed to be on the ark, such as aquatic animals, fish, etc.

127 posted on 03/11/2006 9:24:21 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

So, are you saying that poodles and wolves, Great Danes and chihuahuas all had a single common ancestor 4,000 years ago? And that freshwater and saltwater fish all enjoyed the same environment for a year?


128 posted on 03/11/2006 9:32:55 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: protest1
"The Bible says that Noah’s Flood was global, but the Black Sea flood was only local. The Bible says the Flood covered the highest mountains, but the Black Sea flood only rose by a few hundred feet. It didn’t even cover the mountains in the local area. The Bible says that Noah built an Ark, but the Black Sea flood needed no such vessel. The water came up so slowly that the residents would have walked to higher land. The Bible says that everyone outside the Ark drowned, but the Black Sea flood simply displaced the residents. The Bible says that only the animals and birds on the Ark survived, but not so with the local Black Sea flood. The Bible says there was forty days of rain, but the Black Sea flood had no rain. The Bible says that the Flood ended when the waters went down and land was dry. But the waters of the Black Sea flood have not gone down yet. The list could go on. There is absolutely no resemblance whatever between the Black Sea flood and the biblical Flood of Noah."

And also God said he would never again flood the entire earth so that all flesh is destroyed Gen 9:11 and we see localized flooding everywhere on earth.

Another "answer from Genesis."

129 posted on 03/11/2006 9:35:39 AM PST by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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To: Dog Gone
So, are you saying that poodles and wolves, Great Danes and chihuahuas all had a single common ancestor 4,000 years ago? And that freshwater and saltwater fish all enjoyed the same environment for a year?

Yes on point one, no on point two.

130 posted on 03/11/2006 9:37:20 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: VadeRetro
Your Nobel awaits you.

LOL!!

Honestly that was funny.

131 posted on 03/11/2006 9:42:36 AM PST by Angus MacGregor (Wars are fought in the will...)
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To: Angus MacGregor
As to your profound questions on Noah, the simple answer is...by the power of God. Typical dodge by a creationist. Do you understand the scientific method? Or do you just live in a world of ignorance where you can just plug in "God did it" to cover every mystery of the world. How sad that God created a nonthinking automaton. The bible is a book of fables, written to the thought level of the time. Donkey's don't talk.
132 posted on 03/11/2006 9:51:36 AM PST by Central Scrutiniser (In your heart, you know I'm right.)
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To: DouglasKC
So, are you saying that poodles and wolves, Great Danes and chihuahuas all had a single common ancestor 4,000 years ago? And that freshwater and saltwater fish all enjoyed the same environment for a year?

Yes on point one, no on point two.

How did the common ancestor speciate into wolves, coyotes etc.? Was it by macroevolution?

133 posted on 03/11/2006 9:52:07 AM PST by Ken H
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To: DouglasKC

Most plants can't survive being submerged for months, especially if they're covered by sediment. Salty water makes it even worse.

Did Noah load seeds of every plant on the ark, and what about those plants that don't reproduce using seeds?

How did he manage to get plant life restarted on every continent? I don't quite see how he was able to start grasses in Kansas when the ark came to rest 15,000 feet up on a mountain in Turkey.


134 posted on 03/11/2006 9:54:25 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: DouglasKC

Doug, how did all the marsupials from Australia get to Noah, survive without their native foods, and get back to Australia?

Add in about 50,000 other species from all over the globe.

Its a story. If it were true we could replicate it. Go ahead, build an ark that can hold 2 of each animal and sail it for a while, using the tech of the day. Then get back to me on how well it went.


135 posted on 03/11/2006 9:54:30 AM PST by Central Scrutiniser (In your heart, you know I'm right.)
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To: Dog Gone

I want to know how he got the eucaylptus trees back growing so fast so they could feed the koalas! How did the carnivores eat when there were no plants for the plant eating animals to eat?

When you try to apply even the tiniest bit of logic to the ark story, the crevos show their true colors. They duck, dodge, and make God into a magician that just made it happen. And they are happy with that.

Sigh....


136 posted on 03/11/2006 9:56:57 AM PST by Central Scrutiniser (In your heart, you know I'm right.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
The bible is a book of fables, written to the thought level of the time.

Typical dodge by a evolutionist.

Do you understand the power of God? Or do you just live in a world of ignorance where you can just plug in "It Evolved" to cover every mystery of the world. How sad that you reject the power of God around you and put your trust in fossils and half baked "scientific" theories. Evolution is one big fable written by Godless fools of the time. Life didn't evolve it was created.

Do you understand the scientific method?

Yes I do, that's why I reject evolution.

137 posted on 03/11/2006 10:06:21 AM PST by Angus MacGregor (Wars are fought in the will...)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Noah's Flood can't survive even the most simplistic of reality checks.

It can't even survive a theological test. If Noah's Flood was meant to destroy evil in the world, it was an utter failure.


138 posted on 03/11/2006 10:07:48 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Angus MacGregor

Not a dodge.

I want you to prove the ark story.

Come up with answers for me, how did the koala and sloth get back to Australia and S. America?

How did the reptiles survive being in the snow of Mt. Ararat?

What did the herbivores eat at the top of the mountain? How did they get the strength to get down and not eat for months while plants were regrowing?

How did the right plants regrow in the same places?

Answers!

You have none, just your fables. You don't have the brains to try to understand the universe, you need an easy, sloppy answer so you don't have to think further.


139 posted on 03/11/2006 10:16:30 AM PST by Central Scrutiniser (In your heart, you know I'm right.)
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To: Dog Gone
No, it can't. Creationists don't want to prove anything, they don't want reality. They just want us to not question anything, which is the waste of a perfectly good, evolved brain.


140 posted on 03/11/2006 10:20:01 AM PST by Central Scrutiniser (In your heart, you know I'm right.)
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