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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: joesbucks
That wouldn't happen.

Border issues? Duh.

1,541 posted on 05/17/2006 1:21:00 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dane
Uh dirt, those type of comemnts come from an almost cult that posts incessently on FR, that sees people picking food or building shelter or even having a picnic as "evil".

Aw, jeez. Not this crap again.

1,542 posted on 05/17/2006 1:21:00 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: dirtboy; Lead Moderator
Onyx, here is one poster who is not for border security first, BTW. LM seems to be unwilling to learn from Reagan's amnesty that you cannot deal with those already here without closing the door first, or else more come in the door.

I must have overlooked LM's post. Where is it? I have tracked LM and can't find where LM is not for border security first.

1,543 posted on 05/17/2006 1:21:08 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: DCPatriot
the spincter tightened a bit...didn't it?

Sorry Toby... but that right there is funny... I don't care who you are...

1,544 posted on 05/17/2006 1:21:16 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (** Tagline Removed By Admin Moderator **)
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To: Pukin Dog

ping for later perusal.


1,545 posted on 05/17/2006 1:21:24 PM PDT by rwa265 (Behold, I am with you always. (Matthew 28:20))
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To: OldFriend

lol. Ironically, your post made me think of the movie Escape from New York.

We cant do this half way. We need to pull the rug out from under these illegals that are here now. It seems, to me anyway, that deporting them would be a logisitical nightmare and one that we would find a way to screw up.

But if we take away their reason for being here, then they will either leave, or come begging for us to move them out. (And yes there will be some that just become criminals, I have concidered that).

JM2C


1,546 posted on 05/17/2006 1:22:03 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Lead Moderator
LOL.....

Ya beat me on that reply...

Bush was very clear that a secured border was critical to the rest of it succeeding in taking the pressure off the border and correcting past mistakes.

Much improved border security was always tied to the comprehensiveness of the plan. He said it more times then I can count and he never wavered..

1,547 posted on 05/17/2006 1:22:06 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: r-q-tek86

I was waiting for that!!!


1,548 posted on 05/17/2006 1:22:34 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Tagline removed per Admin. Moderator.)
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To: Vicomte13
There are so many falsehoods and misunderstandings in that post it is hard to know where to begin.

The biggest error is to believe turning over the House will make the GOP more conservative. Only a fool can believe that. In FACT, it will make the GOP more liberal if that is the way the votes went.

The biggest falsehood and it IS a WHOPPER is that al Queda is coming over the souther border. Anyone who has thought about this seriously knows that the northern border is FAR more likely to be the place terrorist cross for several reasons.

How idiotic does one have to be to attack the party which is standing with conservatives on the Illegals issue? The House bill is to conservatives liking and 2/3 of the GOP Senators voted against the bill conservatives hate. So you are claiming that we should punish the GOP? There is no other name for this than INSANITY.

BTW it is unfortunate that you don't have a chance to vote for the Nazis or Hamas so you could REALLY teach the GOP a lesson. No one can figure exactly what that "lesson" is unless it is "many of us are dumb as rocks".
1,549 posted on 05/17/2006 1:22:35 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: AntiGuv
The exceptions you might recall, such as CFR, were forced by petition.

And that IMO could happen here. We'll just have to see. I have a fair degree of confidence that the House GOP will hold the line here. Peter King has been absolutely resolute.

1,550 posted on 05/17/2006 1:23:03 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: onyx; Lead Moderator
Where is it? I have tracked LM and can't find where LM is not for border security first.

He did the Deion Sanders and said both, boss...

1,551 posted on 05/17/2006 1:23:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: CougarGA7

What to do with the various city authorities who want the illegals in their midst. Or should I say in our midst, since they don't have to live with the problem. Their children are in private schools and they live in safe neighborhoods.


1,552 posted on 05/17/2006 1:24:02 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: DCPatriot

No, but the head got hot. I may not be a republican, but I am certainly no liberal. I think there are some ostrich-republicans chucking around the troll term who should reallly look in the mirror, because they are the ones supporting liberal republicans, NOT conservatives, which is the mission of FR according to the front page.

I like FR and sure don't want to get banned, but have other places to go if necessary.

Thanks for the compliment, btw.


1,553 posted on 05/17/2006 1:24:43 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thank you so much for this. I have been so discouraged of late reading all the Bush bashing postings. I thought I was seeing this forum disintegrate right before my eyes.

You have said what has been in my heart. I fear too many have fallen before the liberal onslaught already or that the dark side has become much more clever with the postings.

I have to say that I have not been coming here quite as often as I have in the past because of all the negativity and juvenile bashings. I long for the intellectualism of only a few months ago.


1,554 posted on 05/17/2006 1:25:05 PM PDT by myrabach
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To: SeaBiscuit

I am NOT a defeatist at all.

That you would read that into my post is amazing.

He's already said he would sign the legislation presented to him and I am directing my efforts to the lawmakers responsible.


1,555 posted on 05/17/2006 1:25:19 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: r-q-tek86

HAd it been true, yeah.


1,556 posted on 05/17/2006 1:25:30 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: r-q-tek86; Toby06

Of course I misspelled "sphincter". ;^)


1,557 posted on 05/17/2006 1:25:47 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Pukin Dog

"You have my respect."

And you, sir, have mine.


1,558 posted on 05/17/2006 1:25:58 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: onyx

I vacillate between nukes and MOABs but damnit something needs to be blowed up real gud.


1,559 posted on 05/17/2006 1:26:17 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Like a Vanity in Breaking News is hard to ignore.


1,560 posted on 05/17/2006 1:26:33 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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