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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Admin Moderator

I'm impressed.


1,641 posted on 05/17/2006 1:48:50 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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To: CWOJackson

poodle-de-dupe was just another obsessed with FR afer.


1,642 posted on 05/17/2006 1:49:33 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: George W. Bush

"The Dims and their media allies want those 30 million+ new voters pretty badly, don't they?"

Yep.
Given the Roe Effect (hat tip to James Taranto of WSJ Online), it's the only way the Democrats can remain demographically competitive in the long run.

Unfortunately, it's not just a way to stay competitive, it ensures Democratic DOMINANCE if there is a mass amnesty.

Worse, let the Democrats get the Congress and Executive in their hands, and computerized voting without paper records allows their famous election corruption machine to ensure permanent Democratic majorities. Bonjour Sulla's Republic.


1,643 posted on 05/17/2006 1:49:53 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: jazusamo

She's running a little scared back home right now...no doubt the LP will be ratching up their rheotic again this election. Their last great act of teaching the GOP a lesson gave us the current governor. They're racking up a fine track record in Washington state.


1,644 posted on 05/17/2006 1:50:26 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: pollyannaish
Who is running against him in the primaries?

Laffey, mayor of Cranston. Here's a good page on him at Club For Growth. It talks about the strategy, Cranston's somewhat weak record (it is Rhode Island after all), the minimal dangers in trying to defeat Chafee, the possibility that Chafee will go independent for the general election, the weakness of the two Dims vying for their primary in September.

I'm very satisfied with my 2007 congressman, elected with 60% of his funds from the Club.
1,645 posted on 05/17/2006 1:50:44 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: dirtboy

Dang, it was pulled already.


1,646 posted on 05/17/2006 1:50:46 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: onyx

My remark was about the speech, not what the President is willing to sign.. and yes, by all means encourage the lawmakers to present legislation that protects Americans first..

Otherwise, we are giving in to defeatism.. that, 'we the people' have little choice as to 'how far the President is willing to go' to meet that goal..


1,647 posted on 05/17/2006 1:50:53 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

"Quite the wordsmith. Would that I had your talent."

Talent?
It's logohhrea.
Throw enough crap at the wall, and some of it will stick.

I like to hear myself talk (obviously).


1,648 posted on 05/17/2006 1:51:11 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Sir Gawain
" Not saying it's better or worse now, but there was no "Golden Age" in terms of polite debate, at least not that I can remember."

Well, I've been around for under a year, while it wasn't always "polite" chat, it wasn't a bunch of trolls here to capitalize on a dividing issue either.

I don't think disruptor's will win here, or in the polls in Nov.
1,649 posted on 05/17/2006 1:51:27 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: Vicomte13

Sorry. I cannot support a national ID card.

Quality State Drivers Lic are fine with me to a point. Biometrics encoded on a chipped card are fine to a point.

But as an evangelical Christian who believes we are in the end times when the required globalist SLAG chip implant mark will become the order of the day . . . I cannot get at all close to that. No thanks. No way.


1,650 posted on 05/17/2006 1:51:27 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: onyx

poodle-de-dupe...a "really, true conservative"


1,651 posted on 05/17/2006 1:52:05 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: prairiebreeze


I am still laughing. Thanks for the ping.


1,652 posted on 05/17/2006 1:52:18 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: zarf

I'm going to ignore your race baiting comment and focus on your "some 'conservatives' have a problem with democracy."

You better believe conservatives have a problem with democracy. That's why we prefer a constitutional republic.

If you like democracy so much, go join the DEMOCRATIC party.


1,653 posted on 05/17/2006 1:52:39 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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To: AntiGuv

You if a conference report compromise is bottled up, you can bank on it. The big hurdle and question mark, is whether the House Pubbies in conference sell out.


1,654 posted on 05/17/2006 1:53:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: CWOJackson

You mean a Puritan? Of course.


1,655 posted on 05/17/2006 1:54:05 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Torie
The big hurdle and question mark, is whether the House Pubbies in conference sell out.

Yep

1,656 posted on 05/17/2006 1:54:25 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Pukin Dog

I myself have been guilty of letting my frustration get the better of me sometimes, and not being patient enough to step back and see the big picture.

Mea culpa. I will strive to do better.


1,657 posted on 05/17/2006 1:54:55 PM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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To: Smogger

"Sessions R-AL Amendment:
Funds construction for 370 miles of fence and 500 miles of vehicle barriers along the US-Mexico border.
Passed: 83
Against: 16"

It is good.
But the border is 2000 miles long.
83 miles are currently fenced.
This means that 453 miles will be fenced.
Which means that 1547 miles will not be fenced.
Which means that illegal immigration vectors will shift further out into the deserts, but the flood will continue.

If you dam 1/4 of the river, you've spent a lot of money to do nothing.

The wall has to go from sea to sea.

You have to put gaps in it for roads - but those are guarded. And you probably need some wildlife gaps, which can also be guarded.

Also, fences don't get government retirement benefits after 20 years of service. We need Border Patrol, but you need a lot less Border Patrol agents if you have a lot more Israeli Wall.


1,658 posted on 05/17/2006 1:55:12 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Xenophobic Alien
Woo hoo! Now how did I miss this one the first time through? Talk about subtlety in a troll. LOL

To: Jim Robinson

Rimjob your a fucking troll. This website is fast becoming the joke of the internet. Why don't you take your money that you've stolen from every donater to this website and go buy yourself a wife somewhere.

Bring back Dasher and Peacebaby and ban yourself, then stick this website up your ass. Trollmonkey.

915 posted on 05/17/2006 11:16:35 AM PDT by Xenophobic Alien (WWDD??)
1,659 posted on 05/17/2006 1:55:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: George W. Bush
Thanks for the info. I'll take a look. I am fascinated by the local aspects of most of these people.

As far as WA, I think we have a reasonably good chance of sending a newbie to DC this fall. But I want to gain seats in the end, not just come out even. I think that is our best chance.

So...Laffey it is. I am assuming you are from RI?
1,660 posted on 05/17/2006 1:55:27 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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