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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Rokke

Quit accusing me of things I've not said....like impeachment or voting for Dems.

Amnesty will ensure a Dem takover of this nation. It is foolhardy to the extreme.

It's ludicrous it has any footing at all at the magnitude being guessed at.

A generation ago your views to allow 1-200 million immigrants to swarm in here in a generation would have been laughed at as preposterous. Now anyone challenges that is a racist or whatever else Ed Gillespie decides to call us in public.


2,421 posted on 05/17/2006 9:20:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (Are you a Coyote Republican or Un Hombre Verdad?)
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To: Pukin Dog

"I'm going to keep hunting trolls."

Go to it, it's a target rich environment. ;)

Note my tag line -- seeing people claiming to be conservatives, while promoting election of Democrats lead me to point out that REAL conservatives can't possibly help Dems get elected, which is what they will be doing, by voting third party or staying home.

I posted the link to this article a number of times, but just in case, anyone missed it, it describes these people to a T:

The new 'Republicans vote on Wednesday' game (FR Mentioned) (article full text)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613957/posts?page=87#87

I think the Dems are waging a grassroots campaign, trying to "divide and conquer" the conservatives, and the MSM is playing it up, for the same reason.

The presidential election was close, the November election will have some very close races, and the Dems figured out, that all they have to do, is get 1-2% of the conservatives to stay home of vote 3rd party, for the Dems to win the races, and win enough seats to control Congress.


2,422 posted on 05/17/2006 9:20:07 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: jpsb
You have NEVER been worth my time and your arrogance, pomposity, juvenile behavior, and inability to accept defeat gracefully, only makes your brown nosing look far worse than it would have, if posted alone.

Your taunts and your phony compliments notwithstanding, you WILL have to find someone else to pretend you bested; I shan't be bullied into doing your bidding.

2,423 posted on 05/17/2006 9:20:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pukin Dog
Probably the most obvious of trolls. Why should a troll get a warning?

The most obvious of trolls are dispensed with very quickly after their initial post. These were longtime freepers. I've seen their last posts, and many of their posts before that. They may have run afoul of some of the posting guidelines, deserving of a warning, but they were not trolls.

Anyway, whats done is done, and nothing will change it, so its not worth rehashing again.

2,424 posted on 05/17/2006 9:20:57 PM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: Toby06
Alone?

/jk

2,425 posted on 05/17/2006 9:21:49 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: jpsb
Even with all that has transpired today in the Senate, I am still 100% certain that there will be NO comprehensive immigration bill passed this year. The House will hold strong, and there will be a border enforcement bill passed as a stop-gap measure right before November. Our side will be happy, win more seats, Tom Daschle will be saddened. But I've been wrong before.

But not about trolls.
2,426 posted on 05/17/2006 9:21:51 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: FreeReign

I hate it when I do that!


2,427 posted on 05/17/2006 9:22:20 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: lemura
Here's what he said about the guest worker bill "The president obviously doesn’t think of Americans by passing the bill,” said Dana Rohrbacher.

Then we shall see what kind of sac this man has won't we. He has the House bill, the senate now has its bill. It will go into reconciliation and Bush will sign what comes out. If Dana has the juice he will get a tough bill if he doesn't then he has no business spouting off. Politics is a contact sport so he now has the ball let's see if he can run with it.

2,428 posted on 05/17/2006 9:22:41 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Did you see in the FR poll about President Bush' speech, 5% of the members voted "hate Bush".


2,429 posted on 05/17/2006 9:22:55 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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We all know where we stand....I'm going to catch Tony Soprano fore bed.

Nightie


2,430 posted on 05/17/2006 9:23:28 PM PDT by wardaddy (Are you a Coyote Republican or Un Hombre Verdad?)
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To: wardaddy
Which is WHY the College of Orthodox Rabbinatry ( or whatever it's called ) kicked him out.

And that's not LIEberman's only flaw.

2,431 posted on 05/17/2006 9:24:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Alone?

/jk

Yeah.

n/k!

2,432 posted on 05/17/2006 9:24:08 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: lemura
"because my Rep has gone on record opposing Bush. Here's what he said about the guest worker bill "The president obviously doesn’t think of Americans by passing the bill,” said Dana Rohrbacher."

Isn't Dana Rohrbacher in California ?

If so, you are in luck, because your 2 rat Senators are on the record opposing President Bush also.
2,433 posted on 05/17/2006 9:24:31 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: FairOpinion
Oh yeah. They will get zapped soon enough.
2,434 posted on 05/17/2006 9:25:10 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Rokke
BRAVO !
2,435 posted on 05/17/2006 9:25:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: FairOpinion
the Dems figured out, that all they have to do, is get 1-2% of the conservatives to stay home of vote 3rd party, for the Dems to win the races, and win enough seats to control Congress.

The Democrats are not going to win the House. If anything, it will move further to the right. And the way it will achieve that will be to fire up the base by having Reps directly distancing themselves from Bush. This is the new meme - watch for it to start showing up in the pundit class over the next few days.

2,436 posted on 05/17/2006 9:25:46 PM PDT by lemura
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To: Rokke
"According to some people who have been banned, they received not a single warning!"

Um. How do you know that if they were banned? Have you been banned before?

I thought I was clear, but let me rephrase: According to people who are now banned, and whom I have spoken to since they were banned, they said they did not receive a warning. That is how I know, and no, I have never been banned once in my 8 years as a freeper!

2,437 posted on 05/17/2006 9:25:49 PM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: nopardons

LOL, rebute my 138 in "Trouble ahead for the American middle class". You insulted me repeatedly in that thread. Then when I documented every thing I claimed you vanished. Return to the debate. pretty please with sugar on top.


2,438 posted on 05/17/2006 9:26:54 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Rokke


Yours is the premiere post of this thread.
Well done!


2,439 posted on 05/17/2006 9:27:03 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: MissAmericanPie

Yes. I have heard the same. I also heard the the UN reminded Bush of this when he first became President. I heard his reply was that the US would pull out of the UN if they tried to push that on him. I don't know if that is all true or not, but that is what I remember.


2,440 posted on 05/17/2006 9:27:39 PM PDT by do the dhue (I hope y'all will help bail me out of jail after I dot Sean Penn's eyes.)
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