Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
LOL, bye nopardons. You are no longer worth my time. And I must confess I enjoy your posts, I enjoy your wit, and you are one of the more intelect posters on FR. But you have met your match in jpsb. I expected better of you, I expected a serious debate, You disapointed me. Oh well, not many can debate me, should have known better then to expect you could. Once again see ya.
I slipped ya a mickey, so you now should go lay down.
(kidding!)
We the people are the legitimate heirs of the Republic - our representatives enact law which is to be enforced by the Executive. The President has no option in the matter - selective enforcement of the law is a primary definition of corruption.
Bush was a state governor in 1999; he has been the Chief Executive of the United States since 2001. He is personally responsible for carrying out EXISTING enforcement of employment, immigration & labor laws. He has no credibility in this issue.
BTTT
Let's hope there's something left of America in 2008 that we're still able to recognize.
It was relative to other Dems....sorta like Tex Watson being decent compared to John Wayne Gacy..
I could never understand how an Orthodox Jew could be Pro-Choice
I hope that's not a rule. I don't think it's a good one.
If a person makes a comment on this open forum, then that person should expect a response from anybody.
The only requirement should be that the response doesn't brake the rules.
Based on the vast majority of comments supporting the original vanity that started this thread, I think it is you who are out of synch with most members of FR. There is a huge difference between disagreeing on an issue and demanding members of this site don't vote in 2006. There is also a big difference between disagreeing with a President and calling him a treasonous traitor who should be impeached. As someone who still serves in the military, and still recognizes we have a serious job to do protecting this nation from the very real threat of Islamofascists, the biggest obstacle I can see in the future to our success in that war is a Speaker Pelosi and an impeached Commander in Chief.
Illegal immigration is yet one more problem President Bush has inherited from his predecessors. It has taken generations to evolve into its current state. And it will take generations to solve. The American public has become convinced that all problems can be solved overnight. I'm not sure if that is a result of watching too many movies, or spending too much time listening to the MSM, but it isn't true. Whether it is the war on terror, the fight against abortion, undoing our welfare society, or solving illegal immigration, it is going to take time to accomplish the results we are looking for. The fact that some "conservatives" are ready to bail out just when every sign indicates their pet issue is starting to be addressed puts them into the same category as the cut-and-run democrats who want to sign a war on terror peace treaty because Iraq is not yet a Jeffersonian Democracy.
For some people this may just be an opportunity to "make a point" about how important they are. But to thousands of Americans fighting around the world to guarantee the freedom of this country, a democrat congress will mean the difference between ultimate success and failure in a war we are currently winning. And we cannot afford to lose that war. And in the meantime, the problem of illegal immigration is starting to get the attention it deserves. Bush is fighting several wars at once. It sure as hell doesn't help that his supposed "base" has opened another front to his rear.
That would only be funnier if Howlin said it.
LOL...yes, I do. :-)
I am not trying to make you agree with me on anything. Just stating yet another fact, that Toby is not a troll.
And OH YES, you certainly ARE trying to "take me on", which is NOT something you really want to do, dear. ;^)
Stop threatening people.
Spot on!
"lousy politician"....you have that right...but, he is a good man, which is MUCH better.
What I find so bizarre is that so many Republican politicians have been "running away" from him since his poll numbers have been dropping...
BUT, the Republicans in the Senate, that have been running away..have NOT taken up the mantle of hard nosed Borderbots...they haven't said..."close the borders" , "deport the illegals"..."get legislation doing away with anchor babies, NOW"...
No, they aren't...BUT, they continue to not so subtly point out the differences between President Bush and themselves...but, there is always the fudge factor, to where they come back later, if Bush't numbers go up all of a sudden...and can say, "see, I was with Dubya all along"....blech
From the "New American" no doubt.
You mistake criticism of Bush as criticism of the GOP and conservative values. In my case, it's easy to support the GOP, because my Rep has gone on record opposing Bush. Here's what he said about the guest worker bill "The president obviously doesn’t think of Americans by passing the bill,” said Dana Rohrbacher.
Um. How do you know that if they were banned? Have you been banned before?
Just to say...
Other folks talk back-stage, too.
Yikes.
Your are correct, I mispoke myself the GOP is splite into two camps, the two camps are still defining themselves but one camp is clearly more pragmatic(and wrong) the the other camp is more princibled (and right). How it all ends id beyond my pay grade.
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