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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: stands2reason

"Yep. If you want to get someone to the polls, it's not going to be nagging, browbeating or calling someone "DU troll" that does it.

Those tactics don't work on conservatives, and it's frankly insulting if you think that they will."

Yes it is and it's not only insulting it's childish. I would wager that everyone on this board is over 21, there's no excuse for the constant flaming, backbiting and angst that constantly appears here.

But.. I guess when you are sitting in the comfort of your own home, hidden behind the keyboard of a computer, you really do have to guard youself against coming out and attacking your fellow man. I know I've caught myself doing it and it shames me when I do.


2,321 posted on 05/17/2006 8:15:29 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: MissAmericanPie

I like to believe that the globalist are made up of interest groups who buy our politicians (demorats and republicans). I think we the people start to make waves that is when the professional politicians start to listen. I think we should rock the boat once in a while. Rock that boat in the Primary mostly. You know, hings are different between Republican and demorat. demorats will ignore problems such as north korea. kim jong ill told clinton to give him oil or he would build nukes. clinton gave him oil. kim very long time ill tried the same with Bush. Bush declined and that is when ill revealed that he already built nukes. As you know, the WTC was bombed under clinton. clinton had the chance to take the culprit into custody and clinton declined. I really don't think Bush would have done that. We are now hunting terrorist and not the other way around now. I remember the 1990s and all the gun bills. I don't see that today, thank the Lord. Our economy is now being built on strength. The kind of strength that can take $3.00 a gallon for gas. Not a Internet bubble that popped. Granted what goes up must come down. Republicans have made mistakes too. But I promise things will be different if the demorats get power. I hear and understand what you are saying. We have to get the Republicans to be loyal to the USA and not the interest of the EU or the UN or globalization. We need to stay in the party and clean it up from within. I am not cutting and running. I am staying right here with the Elephants and I am going fix our problems and not run from them.


2,322 posted on 05/17/2006 8:15:37 PM PDT by do the dhue (I hope y'all will help bail me out of jail after I dot Al Franken's eyes.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
" Put out signs. Paid for lawyers when our signs were taken down by the local pols."

LOL...What I do with signs (since most are stolen after dark) is put them on the steep hill by the road in front of my property, then I dump manure all around them and down the hill in front of them.( hog is best, but any on hand will work).

I have went out in the morning to see slide marks down the hill, and the sign was still there.
2,323 posted on 05/17/2006 8:16:05 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: teenyelliott
teeny, I suggest that instead of casting aspersions on me and throwing in a few gratuitous insults, in order to defend you friend, you should follow your own advice and me NICER to me. Your hypocrisy is so think, it's a peasouper...as they used to call a really bad London fog.

And OH YES, you certainly ARE trying to "take me on", which is NOT something you really want to do, dear. ;^)

If "Conservatives do not agree on every issue", which is a truism, then why the bloody hell are you attempting to force me to agree with you?

2,324 posted on 05/17/2006 8:16:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Toby06

I am your side as one diappointed with Bush of late but I must confess that folks are not banned here for not being Bushbots.

They are banned or suspended for duking it out with Bushbots. Some of whom are either mods themselves or cozy with them.

It's all a mystery to me to be frank....the clique stuff.

But I do know one thing. Attitudes about Bush around here tend to ebb and flow....from gushing accolades to one upon a time outright contempt.
The same socially moderate suspects rallying around Bush here now on FR were the same ones ready to commit mass exodus over Schiavo here just a little over a year ago.

Stick around if you're able and you'll see what I mean


2,325 posted on 05/17/2006 8:17:20 PM PDT by wardaddy (Are you a Coyote Republican or Un Hombre Verdad? Contestame FROBL?)
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To: Admin Moderator

I apologized earlier I thought, if not, sorry for being mistaken.

Damn, I'm out of smokes.


2,327 posted on 05/17/2006 8:18:30 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Pukin Dog

Bookmark


2,328 posted on 05/17/2006 8:20:22 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("It'sTime for Republicans to Start Toeing the Conservative Line, NOT the Other Way Around!")
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To: trussell
If he keeps on posting, as he has done, he is going to get banned. He's doing it all himself and needs NO help from anyone else. You just do NOT take on Jim and the Mods and expect that lies are going to be ignored.

If, as you say, he is your friend, then you need to help him; he needs a LOT of help!

2,329 posted on 05/17/2006 8:21:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh golly....now THAT brings back a flood of memories. LOL


2,330 posted on 05/17/2006 8:22:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Toby06

Only because you rode the short bus to school.


2,331 posted on 05/17/2006 8:22:09 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: wardaddy
No one is 'cozy' with the mods. We don't have a list of, this poster is OK, this poster is not. It just doesn't work that way. If you follow the posting rules, you'll be fine. If you violate those rules enough, you'll be booted off. And, us mods don't ban long timers, that's done by Jim. We'll ban a newbie, say 3 months or so, longer than that, it's Jim's call. So, before you spout your 'talking' points, get your facts straight.
2,332 posted on 05/17/2006 8:22:17 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Beagle8U
What I do with signs

I work electronics/computers/electical when I'm not cooking for my Uncle.

We had a dog fence around the yard.... umpty-kV with a GFI.... just to keep the dogs in, you understand. We didn't want to hurt the dogs sleeping on the back porch.

22 gauge magnet wire without any insulation (it's what I had, 22 gauge mag wire and paint stripper), works wonders.

Yelp! sign stealer headed toward the far-away hills.

We had it inspected. We failed twice, but managed a sign-off the third time.

/johnny

2,333 posted on 05/17/2006 8:22:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Toby06
Here, have one of mine...


2,334 posted on 05/17/2006 8:24:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Toby06
Hard to be ANYTHING, except Mugabe, in Zimbabwe, nowadays, and even he is having problems. And yes, I really DO know a LOT about what has been and is going on ever there.

I hope that you have a pleasant evening as well.

2,335 posted on 05/17/2006 8:24:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: jpsb

Well that was interesting.


2,336 posted on 05/17/2006 8:24:57 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: wardaddy

Outstanding explanation. I understand the schiavo thing was a bloodbath. missed it all here, thankfully.


2,337 posted on 05/17/2006 8:25:16 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Admin Moderator
The pack in front of me has a tax stamp. I need to get out to the base....

/johnny

2,338 posted on 05/17/2006 8:25:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks for posting those links. The n00b believes hearsay and is a heavy breather.


2,339 posted on 05/17/2006 8:25:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JRandomFreeper

Shoot, just go to Mexico, you can get a carton for ten bucks....


2,340 posted on 05/17/2006 8:27:30 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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