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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Admin Moderator

Hey, you are not as bad as some would say! Oh, wait, I remember that trick from the beginning of Saving Private Ryan.


KIDDING!!!!!


2,341 posted on 05/17/2006 8:29:05 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Pukin Dog

i stopped voting for rinos


2,342 posted on 05/17/2006 8:29:37 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'm in the country, I could just string some electric fence wire up there, but something about them jumping back in their car all covered with $hit just makes me smile.
2,343 posted on 05/17/2006 8:30:02 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: Admin Moderator
I'd take a repeat at the Pope deployment. NC has good cigarette prices, great looking women, and a bunch of good freepers.

Per diem was great.

And the PX over on the army side was really, really nice.

And it's half a country away from any of my ex's.

What isn't to love?

/johnny

2,345 posted on 05/17/2006 8:30:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Toby06

Oops, was that Band of brothers?


2,346 posted on 05/17/2006 8:31:23 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Rokke; nopardons

Pease excuse me, I was having a debate with nopardons, in which she threw many insults my way, I kicked her ass and she just vanished. A serious poster would have at least siad OK I can see your point, but I disagree. nopardons is not a serious poster, she is a "drive by poster".


2,347 posted on 05/17/2006 8:31:56 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb

Well, I didn't read your debate, but frankly if your tone during the debate was the same as your tone in that post I'm not surprised she "just vanished". That was hardly the input of a "serious" poster.


2,348 posted on 05/17/2006 8:36:03 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: nopardons

Please return to the most interesting debate in the Trouble ahead for the American middle class" thread. Thank you. Pretty please with sugar on top.


2,349 posted on 05/17/2006 8:38:18 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Rokke

Ok, point taken, sorry.


2,350 posted on 05/17/2006 8:39:39 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Pukin Dog

Good rant.

I have noticed a lot of attacking around here on both sides of this issue. Everyone should re-think this. We should be discussing ideas and not attacking posters.

If you have no ideas to share, stay off the thread.


2,351 posted on 05/17/2006 8:41:25 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: feinswinesuksass
Only because you rode the short bus to school.

My mommy called it the tard cart, daddy the window-licker bus.

2,352 posted on 05/17/2006 8:42:46 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: OldFriend

No OldFriend I will be voting in fear and trembling and praying to God that I am not voting for a globalist.
One thing we could do is stand up and tell them all that we know exactly what's going on and we reject it and the perfumed princes they place forward for nomination. We don't have to keep our heads in the sand, and we don't have to take it.

Our troops deserve the best. Are we giving them our best?
We train them to kill the enemy, then ask them to win the hearts and minds of a culture so ancient and inbred with hatred for each other and the infidel that it seems to be a mission impossible.

There is a way that it is possible, there are those citizens of Iraq that are sincere in their gratitude to the USofA, that want democracy. The only way to make that possible for them and not drown them in a decades long civil war, the way to success, is to leave them the only ones left standing in that nation. Even if that means collateral damage. Yet we seem to be over there giving as much respect to those that openly hate us as we do those that are hoping for a better future. There should be no Fajuta, only sand where it use to be, not a pot, nor a shard.

The thought of going to war with the United States should strike such fear and dread in our enemies that N. Korea and Iran would be trembling in their boots, not thumbing their noses at us. That is what we owe our troops.

In 2008 I hope the base will be demanding the Republican Candidate have no history of globalism, or designs on our sovereignty. It should be a question asked up front and an answer demanded of the candidate. We should make globalist a dirty word and a career killer. We could trust our troops in the hands of a Comander in Chief that actually takes his oath of office as more than a mere formality.


2,353 posted on 05/17/2006 8:43:49 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: jpsb
You did no such thing.

I didn't "vanish". Just because I didn't answer you, IMMEDIATELY, in the wee hours of the morning, nor get back to you today, doesn't mean that I either "gave up" or somehow should have acknowledged that you "won"; nor that I vanished. I actually have a life and you don't matter one whit in it.

A "SERIOUS" poster wouldn't get his knickers in a twist ( especially when he lost the battle ) and stalk a poster to another thread and spew the vile, spurious, patently ridiculous drivel that you just did.

2,354 posted on 05/17/2006 8:44:38 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Beagle8U
In this part of the country, you have to protect the general public from an electric fence. Keep it away from children, older folks that don't focus.... things like that.

There are rules. We meet the requirements.

And then there's the cultural requirements. The 9 year olds have to be able to talk the 7 year olds into experimenting with diddling on the fence, without killing the 7 year olds

NOTICE!

KEEP THINGS SAFE! DON'T PLAY WITH WATER(OR OTHER LIQUIDS) and ELECTRIC FENCES!

NOTICE!

I've told 'em. They won't listen.

Been there, done that.

I lived.

/johnny

2,355 posted on 05/17/2006 8:45:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Rokke

That WAS the tone of his previous replies to me.


2,356 posted on 05/17/2006 8:45:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

what ever, see ya.


2,357 posted on 05/17/2006 8:46:18 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Admin Moderator
You guys are out of sync with your members....much like the GOP Senate.

The bannings and suspensions here are highly subjective and nowadays almost always involve folks critical of Bush or the RINOs.,,,although folks are no longer banned just for saying Minutemen admittedly but you guys are sure editorializing the stew out of those Sidebar titles. Folks are still going to find critical immigration articles even if they don't get sidebar coverage.

You guys....maybe not you personally...have made a tacitcal error in choosing to charter this forum to support the Senate and Bush and their GWP or Amnesty or whatever one wishes to call it.

I have never seen so many GOP angry with their incumbents as now over this issue. Far worse than when Bush I raised taxes.

That's my take anyhow and the dozens of polls you guys have run here prove that my views are in the majority here, the rather loud minority notwithstanding.

So how is all this going to end? I'm really sorry it has to be like this. It's been better.
2,358 posted on 05/17/2006 8:46:32 PM PDT by wardaddy (Are you a Coyote Republican or Un Hombre Verdad?)
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To: Toby06

Make that 2,131 LOL's!


2,359 posted on 05/17/2006 8:46:34 PM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: nopardons

can I buy ya a drink?


2,360 posted on 05/17/2006 8:47:42 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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