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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: mjolnir
Oh, careful.

You have not seen the incredible depths that my dumbness can go. There are secrets between me and a couple of flight instructors that will keep me buying them drinks for their silence until they die.
781 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:57 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Excellent reminder...


782 posted on 05/17/2006 10:48:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Vicomte13

WE give YOU the Fence you want, from sea to sea, and we start building it this year.
And YOU promise to give US your votes in November, to keep the Republican majority.



Deal.


783 posted on 05/17/2006 10:48:39 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: Sir Gawain
"We need more important threads like this in breaking news and less silly and useless threads like "Oil pipeline has exploded in Nigeria (200 feared dead)". :

That's funny. I don't see any evidence that you posted anything on the thread about the Nigerian pipeline. And the last time I posted to you I asked you some very specific and reasonable questions concerning the false accusations regarding the Border Patrol and Minutemen. Here's a link (scroll down to post #537)...

Gawain Refuses to Respond

You never did respond despite my repeated requests for you to do so. Now I notice you have been identified as posting negative keywords on this thread. Big surprise. Your purpose on this site is as transparent as crystal. Don't try to play the victim.

784 posted on 05/17/2006 10:49:02 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: colorado tanker
Fear is the only product you have for sale. I'm not in a buying mood.


785 posted on 05/17/2006 10:49:23 AM PDT by Protagoras ("Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious".... George Orwell)
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To: ClancyJ

You don't despise libs much since you are actively working for them if you love ridiculing those that support the President of the United States.



Speaking of the overly sensitive...


786 posted on 05/17/2006 10:49:34 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: ClancyJ

>>Not when they're on duty. I wasn't aware that part of their job description as moderators was informing FReepers where their opinions lay.

If they can tell us their opinions, why can't we know their names?<<

Then, if their attacks get him to change anything they can call him indecisive etc...


787 posted on 05/17/2006 10:49:42 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: Mo1
Lindsey is against the Vitter amendment.

I'm shocked!

He's putting on his jacket.

788 posted on 05/17/2006 10:49:49 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: trubluolyguy

George H.W. Bush was an EXCELLENT president and that he didn't do one thing that you wanted (not raise taxes after pledging not to, and not realizing that he raised them to pay for the Gulf War) is why we got Clinton.

Let's not have the save thing happen again over one issue, no matter how vital that issue is.


789 posted on 05/17/2006 10:49:58 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: trubluolyguy
I agree with you.

Maybe I've just forgotten, but I cannot recall President Bush every completing a speech with "God bless America." Even Clinton did that.

790 posted on 05/17/2006 10:50:52 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Peach
And I want to say this too. If the democrats get in power, they will pull out of Iraq.

Peach, I hate to tell you but Duncan Hunter put the democrats on their heels on that issue when he made them cast a vote that could not be spun in any way. They might Claim that is what they would do,in order to fire up their anti war base but when push comes to shove they would never actually do it.

Now if you would have said they would fail to address Iran and the antics they are up to I would agree that democrats in power would sit idly by and watch it all play out as we see Tel Aviv become nothing more than something for historians to talk about.
791 posted on 05/17/2006 10:50:55 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: trubluolyguy; Pukin Dog

Buch = Bush


792 posted on 05/17/2006 10:51:19 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: Lakeshark; Pukin Dog
You’re correct, the President is President to all America’s citizens. But the President’s duty, first and foremost, is to faithfully execute and uphold his Oath of Office: “to the best of his ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” Within his foremost duties, then, as President of the United States of America, the Constitution requires that he “guarantee” to every state in this union, “protection against invasion” and protection against “domestic violence.”

This country is divided as a result of the ongoing invasion due to disobedience of laws, with impunity, by illegal aliens and those Americans who knowingly and willfully hire them, with impunity, because of those who espouse excuse-making. Those actions have led to: more laws not being properly enforced, a greater number of employers who willfully hire illegal aliens, and an ever greater number of foreigners illegally entering.

This President and this Congress have had many years have begun rectifying many problems, enforcing laws, and to have shown some kind of repair. Feeble attempts and inactions on the part of this President, who continues with his mantra of "good people doing the jobs Americans won't do," and this Congress, which even now is having a dog and pony show on the Senate floor, belong with them, and with them alone.

Similarly, the failures on the part of past Presidents and past Senators and Representatives, and the resulting problems it has caused, belongs with them. But blaming them for their faults yesterday does not give rise to giving excuses or giving up today.

To the extent that this President and this Congress must be held to account for their inaction, so be it. It is irresponsible of the citizenry to state otherwise.

This country is divided because:

Conservatives seek to have the Rule of Law upheld and enforced.
Conservatives stand for American culture, values, and language.
Conservatives value honor, truth, integrity, and hard work.
Conservatives say what they mean and mean what they say.
Conservatives believe that actions speak louder than words.
Conservatives put principle over anything else.
Conservatives believe in strict accountability and consequences for lawbreakers.
Conservatives do not promote selfish gain, greed, or excuse making.
Conservatives do not promote that which undermines high standards and values.
Conservatives do not put what’s in the best interests of another country before what’s best for America.
Conservatives stand for what is in the best interests of America and Americans.

And that is why America is now divided: because it’s not the Conservatives who’ve changed.

793 posted on 05/17/2006 10:51:36 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

Is that what happened to 2 people I knew from the OFST named Dasher and Peacebaby?


794 posted on 05/17/2006 10:52:11 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: Dante3

I really care less how a man speaks. I prefer to see his actions.


795 posted on 05/17/2006 10:52:13 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: Rokke
I don't see any evidence that you posted anything on the thread about the Nigerian pipeline.

Is that some sort of requirement?

You never did respond despite my repeated requests for you to do so.

Yep, your allies on that thread wore me down. By the time I was going to reply it was past my bedtime. Big deal.

796 posted on 05/17/2006 10:52:22 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Texaggie79
"You apparently forbid us from disagreeing with him."

Have you read this thread. There are plenty of people here who disagree with Pukin. And they are still here.

797 posted on 05/17/2006 10:52:27 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Jim Robinson
"Posting like a DU troll is a violation of the rules."

I voted for George Bush twice, I support the WOT and I if think the current illegal immigration issue isn't dealt with harshly and in a non-politically correct way, it will within 25 years create a legacy far worse anything FDR or LBJ blessed us with.
798 posted on 05/17/2006 10:52:35 AM PDT by Rebelbase (" Bush II: What's good for Mexico is good for America." --FReeper, Vigilanteman.)
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To: wallcrawlr

trolls


799 posted on 05/17/2006 10:52:52 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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