Posted on 07/28/2006 8:19:37 AM PDT by jennivinson
Liberal/Progressive Talking Points 1960 to Present
By Jenni Vinson Trejo
July 28, 2006
It might seem a daunting task to catalogue anything over a span that encompasses six decades, but Liberals have made it easy since not much has changed in their Agenda and Talking Points over the past six decades. The only major change we’ve seen from them is that they used to be just Liberals and now they want to add Progressive to their title
This era of Liberal/Progressiveness began as a counter culture revolution to the Vietnam War. The younger generation, unwilling to fight and possibly die in a war mired by politics, had taken to the streets in rebellion against the government. Democrats saw the energy and momentum of these young Americans and opted to ally with them in hopes of solidifying a stronger voter base and in hopes of ushering in social changes.
The alliance proved overwhelming for the Democrats. The revolutionist would not be satisfied until the fabric of the country would completely torn, burned away and replaced with their own.
According to NARAL, Move-0n.org, The CRIT Society, ACLU, Green Peace, Sierra Club, the DNC, the National Organization for Women, Karl Marx, Noam Chomsky, Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood and a host of other Liberal sites, writers and publications, the Liberal/Progressives exist to:
1.To oppose the Constitution because it is based on a belief in God Almighty.
2.To eradicate marriage which they see an institution of slavery to men, women and to children.
3.To free women from the confines of marriage and the domination of men.
4.To free children from the confines of parents. They established through the court systems that the government is the ultimate parent in any given household and not mom or dad. Government can and will intervene in the raising, disciplining, education and even medical treatment of any and all American children.
5.To break down the conventional family unit because Anything conventional and or normal needed to go and because of the afore mentioned slavery issues.
6.To allow free sexuality in all forms. The epitome of Liberal expression and definition can be found in what happened in the muddy farm field at Woodstock when the enlightened and freed souls rolled in the mud in various states of drunkenness, engaging in sexual activities with whomever. From the combined need to break down families, marriage and to allow for all expressions of sexuality comes the Liberal/Progressive notion towards same sex marriages. Ironically, they hate marriage but they fight for Gays to have it!
7.To make drug use legal.
8.To establish equal rights for men and women in all aspects, with the caveat that you can be equal but you are not allowed to exceed anyone. That would alter the balance of their socialism. Still this didn’t keep the Feminist Liberals from demanding rights for women at the expense of men and children.
9.To provide freedom of choice in reproduction so long as the woman has all the choices and all of the rights and men get left out of the matter (after conception that is) and children are, of course, killed.
10.To protect the environment from humans even if some humans have to die so the trees and the owls and the bugs can live. Michael McCloskey of the Sierra Club explained that it is okay if thousands of Africans die of malaria and other mosquito born diseases because their deaths help the environment.
11.To thwart population growth. Their goal is ZERO population growth. They would like humans all around the world to stop producing offspring.
12.To establish civil rights for all mankind in America. No matter where your citizenship is, you will be treated to all civil rights as an American even if you aren’t American.
13.To defend a person’s right to die. What they really advocate is the right to kill. Most euthanasia cases require that someone else kill a person. They don’t advocate suicide, they want assisted deaths.
14.To eradicate religion. Any expression of faith in Judeo-Christian values is deemed to be fanatical. But Judeo-Christian religion has to move aside for their Humanist religion.
15.To commandeer the public school system as a means of indoctrinating Americans.
16.To ensure that Universities remain a breeding ground for Liberal notions, no matter how radical or how lacking in educational value.
17.To usurp the judicial/legal system. Many of the Counter Culture Revolutionists opted to go into Law so they could change the system from within.
18.To evermore be against the norm and status quo. No matter how much they accomplish—they is still so much to be against.
19.To be suspicious of all government— even theirs.
20.To thwart the spread of capitalism. Corporations are the enemy. Money is a means to an end. The value of a dollar is measured only in what they can accomplish with it.
21.To ban handguns. Self protection is not necessary when you can call on them. And hunting is just wrong. Kill the unborn babies, but leave Bambi alone!
22.To modernize the U.S. military—not with weapons but through social engineering, like gays in the military and co-ed barracks.
23.To care and direct the lives of Americans from the cradle to the grave. They tell when if you can be born and when you should hang it up and die.
24.To keep a culture of entitlements. The only way to keep the masses beholden to them is to supply them continually with what they "need".
25.To ensure an atmosphere of fear and dire consequences to any and all who disagree with their assessment. The sky is always on the verge of falling in the Liberal Camp. It’s Global Cooling one day and then Global Warming the next. The trees are all about to die and the tsunamis will wash us all away. The animals will all go extinct while we all die because the cows passed gas and coupled with our BBQ fires and aerosols, the ozone got depleted. Liberal/Progressives are such a fun group!
I’m sure I missed a few of the Liberal/Progressive Talking points. There is no one place where they are outlined, except for now that they will reside on my web page. Liberals and progressives don’t want America to see what they stand for. They are a scary bunch. This is why Conservatives talk about them so much. We try to shed light on what they want for our lives and for the lives of your children and grandchildren.
Liberal/Progressives were not just summarily dismissed. America gave them a shot. It’s been sixty years and they didn’t prove that their way was better, compassionate or even logical.
So, I’m Jenni Vinson Trejo. Liberal/Progressive Talking Points 1960- Present is My Opinion. Thank you for listening.
I have a liberal fishing buddy, a good guy, as you said, who often in conversation mocks the conservative distrust of government. He particularly likes to laugh at the bumper sticker that reads, "I love my country, but I don't trust my government." Whenever he gets going on that I usually say to him, "I guess that means you really trust Bush and the Republican majority in Congress," which normally renders him speechless for a few minutes. Still, he doesn't get the point, our country was founded on distrust of government, France, just the opposite. If we give government power to use in our pet causes, the opposition will be able to use that power in theirs.
But there are plenty of conservatives, W included, who are on the same page with that mindset.
MinnesotaLibertarian,
A VERY Liberal person who works at the radio station asked repeatedly if there was a list of Liberal talking points-- why hadn't she seen it. She keep sayings that Liberals do not exist. That's the new ploy-- Not only does the emperor have no clothes on-- but now the emperor is not even there at all.
So, for the past month I made a valiant effort to scour sources for Liberal Talking Points to present to her. She railed against them and was adamant about how it was impossible for a Conservative to present Liberal Talking Points.
It was tough to do since Liberals don't have a list to offer. Lots of sources have to scoured. Nontheless, the Talking points are THEIR agenda-- not mine. I simply question the logic and reason of their plans.
Jenni
You have not really addressed my criticism. I questioned whether trashy attacks on liberals and liberalism was good for the conservative movement, and in return I've received a marginally coherent anecdote about a woman at a radio station who challenged you to come up with a list of liberal talking points.
As for your points themselves, they don't strike me as well-researched in the least. It looks like it was slapped together in about five minutes, and based solely on your perception of liberalism. The quality of the writing is poor and the attitude is obnoxious. These "talking points" don't strike me as something a liberal would actually say, even if they believed them at heart.
Not a single one of your "points" is sourced in any way. If you wanted good sources for liberal talking points, you could have simply looked at the Democratic Party platform. Many liberal advocacy groups, including the ones you mentioned, also have platforms or sets of ideals, but rather than source them you've stated for yourself the beliefs you believe they hold, rather than what they've actually said.
Of course I wouldn't expect you to merely parrot liberal ideals without saying anything critical. But a much more effective way to convey opposition to liberal ideas would be to quote them exactly rather than putting words in their mouths, and then respond to the liberal idea/claim. As I said before, we should be championing conservative ideas, not trashing liberals.
I have no doubt that I've angered you by this point, so I might as well go all out and again state that I also feel that your idea of conservatism seems to be far off from the ideas and attitudes espoused by Barry Goldwater, who is considered by most to be the founding father of the modern conservative movement. Big government intrusion into private lives and religious influence in government are not conservative ideas. They are antithetical to the conservative ideal of smaller government and respect for the Bill of Rights.
I did list the sources-- you have selective reading. Obviously, you are an offended Liberal. So sorry. Check my webpage in the upcoming days. I will add the sources-- in most cases more than ONE.
What strikes me as odd is that YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW THIS STUFF!!! Why would it offend you so??
I had no reason to trash talk. I sought to enlight.
You may argue this information may have already been said enough- but that would be untrue.
Again==- SORRY-- but this list is sourced. It is Liberal Agenda Talking Points and a clear picture of what Liberals hope to achieve for this country.
Jenni
Yes, liberals have practiced sophistry and outright deception for years in order to destroy our law and our culture.
And yes again, liberals, above all else, do not want Americans to see what liberals really stand for, because Americans would be appalled to realize the radicalism on your list really are what liberals stand for.
The godless left has made much headway because their depraved leftist goals are indoctrination points at most every Public School everyday.
If not for the far left takeover of the Public Schools and Universities, liberalism would be dead.
"..This is just a more involved version of the "Communist Rules for Revolution" that were supposedly found after WWI in Germany. This is almost certainly a hoax. Read all about it at http://www.snopes.com/language/document/commrule.htm
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11 posted on 08/17/2003 6:46:43 PM PDT by MrShow-BobAndDavid
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/965685/posts?page=11#11
First of all, this is an assessment based on what OUR Liberal community says and has said.
Secondly, were this not an assessment, a fair assessment, then why is it that Liberal Humanism around the world behaves in this same manner?
Why is it that China and Russia and Cuba and all Communist states ruled by Liberal Humanism reign over those humans with these same rules?
Jenni
It's best not to post stuff that people can check out on Snopes (or elsewhere) and find it listed as a hoax. It diminishes one's credibility - rightly or wrongly.
It speaks VOLUMES that most liberals try to disassociate themselves from that label,,,,while most conservatives OPENLY AND PROUDLY EMBRACE the 'lable', conservative! Why is that?
Enough said.
You're welcome. I saw it posted on here plenty of times and didn't question it myself until I saw that 2003 post by another FReeper linking to Snopes.
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