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Voter Suppression in Missouri (or fraud?)
New York Times ^ | 8/10/06

Posted on 08/10/2006 4:55:14 PM PDT by seutonius1234

Missouri is the latest front in the Republican Party’s campaign to use photo ID requirements to suppress voting. The Republican legislators who pushed through Missouri’s ID law earlier this year said they wanted to deter fraud, but that claim falls apart on close inspection. Missouri’s new ID rules — and similar ones adopted last year in Indiana and Georgia — are intended to deter voting by blacks, poor people and other groups that are less likely to have driver’s licenses. Georgia’s law has been blocked by the courts, and the others should be too.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: elections; missouri; photoid; polls; votefraud; voterid; voting
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1 posted on 08/10/2006 4:55:15 PM PDT by seutonius1234
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Missouri is the latest front in the Republican Party’s campaign to use photo ID requirements to suppress voting. T

Unfreaking real! Suppress voting? How about make sure the person is QUALIFIED to vote? The nation has gone mad I tell you!

2 posted on 08/10/2006 4:57:33 PM PDT by ladyinred (Thank God the Brits don't have a New York Times!)
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To: seutonius1234
Hello,

Bite me, NYTimes. ....

The people you are crying about manage to get ID for Social Services (ie: free money). Use it to vote. Oh, I get it, you want to vote more than once, or have dead Grandma vote (also more than once). Anger growing here, on many fronts.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
3 posted on 08/10/2006 4:59:31 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: seutonius1234

They always seem to have sufficient ID to collect welfare, medicaid, social security benefits, etc. Why is it that suddenly because they have to ID themselves at the voting booth, it becomes a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy?


4 posted on 08/10/2006 4:59:43 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: MOgirl

Geez; I was typin' and you posted 12 seconds before me!


5 posted on 08/10/2006 5:00:23 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: seutonius1234
One very interesting thing about the Mexican Election held in Mexico a few weeks ago:

ALL MEXICAN VOTERS HAD TO HAVE A VALID GOVERNMENT APPROVED ID TO VOTE - EVEN POOR PEOPLE (and there are a lot of poor people in Mexico).

6 posted on 08/10/2006 5:01:50 PM PDT by Mogollon
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To: MOgirl
Hello,

Oh, I forgot, my brother can't drive, as he can not pass the vision test. HE has a photo ID, issued by the state of MO, just not a DL.

What crap,

MOgirl
7 posted on 08/10/2006 5:01:57 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: ladyinred
The nation has gone mad I tell you!

Naw the nation is fine, this is what the libs have always been. They just couldn't keep it secret any more. Sorta like a political coming out of the closet.
8 posted on 08/10/2006 5:02:01 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: rface; bluesagewoman

Missouri-related ping


9 posted on 08/10/2006 5:04:41 PM PDT by VOA
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The Dems in the urban areas of MO have been committing vote fraud is such a wholesale fashion for so long, that they are terrified of being called on it. They would crumble if they were forced to give up their scams and intimidation tactics.
I know quite a few people here in StL that would vote for conservative candidates but don't bother to, unless it's a national or close statewide issue. The recent stories have been bad enough but I've heard some real horror stories from old timers here.
10 posted on 08/10/2006 5:04:53 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: MOgirl

If someone really wants to vote, he will get an ID. If they need ID for welfare, social security, driving, buying alcohol or whatever, people somehow manage to get it. Are they implying that poor people cannot buy alcohol?


11 posted on 08/10/2006 5:05:03 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: seutonius1234
"but that claim falls apart on close inspection. Missouri’s new ID rules — and similar ones adopted last year in Indiana and Georgia — are intended to deter voting by blacks, poor people and other groups that are less likely to have driver’s licenses"

Tell that to Mexico.
They are much poorer, and even less educated, and yet they require strong id's before you can vote.
And the poor have had no problem voting there.
12 posted on 08/10/2006 5:05:47 PM PDT by Jameison
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"are intended to deter voting by blacks, poor people and other groups that are less likely to have driver’s licenses"


Hey Washington Post,what do them oh so poor black folks use to collect all them government benefits then?
13 posted on 08/10/2006 5:08:02 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: seutonius1234
Without a state issued ID or passport or other picture ID one cannot buy beer, whiskey, cigs, cigars, snuff, or whatever. This crap by the anti-American left about voter ID (we here in Florida must show picture ID) is trying to make sure that their voters can vote early and often as they have in most of the Democrat won elections. If you do not have an ID then you should not be allowed to vote period.
14 posted on 08/10/2006 5:08:44 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: MOgirl

Ditto for my 86 year old mother who never drove in her life. The MO DMV was more than happy to provide a photo ID for her back in 1995... all we had to do was get her to any office that had a camera for taking the picture.

As an aside, how does this new law work with Absentee Ballots? Do you send in a copy of the ID along with the ballot??


15 posted on 08/10/2006 5:09:08 PM PDT by coldoc
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To: ladyinred

Exactly.. Took the words out of my mouth!


16 posted on 08/10/2006 5:10:52 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Liberals see what they believe... Conservatives believe what they see")
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To: seutonius1234
[Missourians who have driver’s licenses will have little trouble voting, but many who do not will have to go to considerable trouble to get special ID’s.]



BULL!

These laws requiring government issued photo ID's to vote all contain provisions for making it ridiculously easy for any eligible voter to obtain one. The government will even pay for it and deliver it to people on demand. If you're too f****** lazy to pry their butt off the sofa long enough to get an ID card to prove you're an eligible voter, then America is better off with you NOT voting.

And claiming that the people who are trying to stop election fraud are just a bunch of racists by making sure that every voter is an eligible voter is abominable.
17 posted on 08/10/2006 5:11:50 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule)
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To: fhayek
Hello,

Of course not. The Dems have held power in many places around the US simply and only due to to FRAUD. I seem to remember a eastern city (Philly, I think) that had an amazing 110% voter turn out, WOW, night of the zombies indeed.

The Left can only lie, cheat, steal and redirect truth to win. Asking for a photo ID to vote, HOW DARE THEY????

Glad to be here, wishing someone would ask for my ID to buy beer (LOL), MOgirl
18 posted on 08/10/2006 5:12:26 PM PDT by MOgirl (Democrats: The Culture of Treason (and you know what I'm talkin about!))
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To: seutonius1234

When I voted on this past Tuesday I went in with only my registration card and my DL. I handed both to the woman to look me up in her book. She handed me back my DL and said we don't need this today but will in November.

I thanked her and said I came prepared.

Now how anyone can do anything in this state without some kind of photo ID is living in a world I would not know how to find.


19 posted on 08/10/2006 5:12:39 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Nuc1

The nation is not fine when nuts like this have this much power. It is illegal in my state to ask for ID when voting.


20 posted on 08/10/2006 5:12:47 PM PDT by ladyinred (Thank God the Brits don't have a New York Times!)
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