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'Duped dads' fight back in paternity cases
The St. Louis Post Disgrace ^ | 04/10/2007 | Matt Franck

Posted on 04/10/2007 1:21:59 PM PDT by Quick or Dead

JEFFERSON CITY — David Salazar is what many would call a "duped dad."

Repeatedly, courts have ordered him to pay child support for a 5-year-old girl, even though no one — not a judge and not the child's mother — claims he's the father.

In the eyes of many, Salazar, of Buchanan County, is the victim of a law that traps men into the child support payments, even though they can prove they're not the dads.

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That kind of statement angers Sen. Chris Koster, who is sponsoring the Missouri bill.

Koster, R-Harrisonville, said he knew children would be harmed as men used DNA to break paternity. But he said the current law mocked justice by pretending that a man is a father even when the evidence proves otherwise.

His bill would allow men to bring forward DNA evidence at any time to prove they are not obligated to pay child support.

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Linda Elrod, director of the Children and Family Law Center at Washburn University, said she was saddened by cases where DNA evidence was used to challenge paternity. She said the cases not only cut off support payments but often ruptured a mature parental bond.

Others, such as Jacobs, want to set a two-year deadline for using genetic tests to challenge paternity. She said courts also needed the discretion to weigh the quality of a parental relationship and the best interest of a child.

But Koster said such arguments by law professors ignored the fundamental truth in many cases — that the man is not the father and should not be obligated to pretend he is.

"It would be just as arbitrary to hang the responsibility of supporting the child with those professors," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: atmdaddy; babydaddy; dna; itsforthechildren; missouri; paternity
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There are a great many cases of paternity in America which are a modern variant of impressment and peonage.
1 posted on 04/10/2007 1:22:00 PM PDT by Quick or Dead
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To: Quick or Dead
"men used DNA to break paternity."

uh... nope. they used DNA to show their innocence. THEY didn't break paternity - can't break what ain't there!

2 posted on 04/10/2007 1:24:21 PM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Quick or Dead

Unless the mom was Anna Nicole, then the guys are lining up claiming the kid is theirs and they are thrilled to be a father.


3 posted on 04/10/2007 1:25:03 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Quick or Dead

I have to agree.
If a man can prove by DNA that he is not the father, he should not be listed on the birth certificate, and should be under no obligation to support a child that is not his.
The mother should then go after the ‘real’ father for support.
Contact Maury :) he’ll help you find your babies Daddy.


4 posted on 04/10/2007 1:27:32 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Quick or Dead
the fundamental truth in many cases — that the man is not the father and should not be obligated to pretend he is.

And there you have it.

5 posted on 04/10/2007 1:28:14 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Quick or Dead
When courts can hold a man liable for more alimony and child support than he even earns, then men ought to be allowed legitimate defenses like "the kid ain't theirs."

I personally know a man who committed suicide under those circumstances, while his wife took vacations with her new boyfriend and her discarded husband's alimony and support checks.

6 posted on 04/10/2007 1:28:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ugh..that’s awful.


7 posted on 04/10/2007 1:31:53 PM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: Quick or Dead
Its a matter of justice and fundamental fairness. The only exception a court could make is if the man had an on-going parental relationship with the child since I am of the view love and the child's welfare should override mere biology. But in all other cases, a man shouldn't be forced to pay child support for a child he never fathered. Its just plain wrong.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 04/10/2007 1:35:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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"It would be just as arbitrary to hang the responsibility of supporting the child with those professors," he said.

Touche.


9 posted on 04/10/2007 1:36:52 PM PDT by Maceman (Scratch a progressive, find a misanthrope.)
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To: Quick or Dead

If the child has come to know the husband as their father, it’s incumbent on the man to step up and continue a personal relationship with the child, and provide financial support.

I love it when men of small raisins whine about this. Step up and be a man!


10 posted on 04/10/2007 1:37:53 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Quick or Dead

I also call it legalized extortion and larceny.


11 posted on 04/10/2007 1:38:02 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: Shadowstrike
The mother should then go after the ‘real’ father for support.

She should also go to jail for fraud. Many times the mother actually KNOWS who the father is but still permits the non-father to pay. This should be CRIMINAL.

12 posted on 04/10/2007 1:40:26 PM PDT by Caravaggio
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Once the government has its snout so deeply into ones wallet that there is nothing left, simply dissappear. If necessary, leave the country.


13 posted on 04/10/2007 1:40:30 PM PDT by Jim Verdolini
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To: HitmanLV

There are many cases of loose women hitting up anybody they’ve ever been with for child support once they get a kid. They’ve been loose their whole life except in court when they swear the guy they’ve dragged in there was the “only one they were with at the time”.

“Keep it in your pants” isn’t just about diseases these days for men.


14 posted on 04/10/2007 1:40:36 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: nhoward14

No argument there.


15 posted on 04/10/2007 1:41:15 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Unless the mom was Anna Nicole, then the guys are lining up claiming the kid is theirs and they are thrilled to be a father.

Ok, so you are saying that a man who is not the biological father of a child should pay for that child? What an asshat! Answer as you will, you will still be an asshat.

16 posted on 04/10/2007 1:41:29 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Maceman

Good example of unwilling participants.


17 posted on 04/10/2007 1:42:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: Shadowstrike

“If a man can prove by DNA that he is not the father, he should not be listed on the birth certificate.”

Unknown to me, I was listed on the birth certificate of a child whose mother I had never met; even gave the kid my name. She saw me in the newspaper giving a fair amount of money to a school and decided that she liked the looks of me, and that I was just the person to name as dad.

Found out about it when the kid was 4 or 5 and momma (a drug-addled drifter) went to jail and the State of Texas sought to collect child support from age 0 to 5 (and in the future) from me.

Cost a fair amount of money to remedy, got in the local paper, and Mrs. MWT was JUST SO pleased to be wakened by a Dep. Sheriff with a citation in his hand saying that I had run around on her.

What a fun time!

End of story: yes, this got fixed, with DNA test that I paid for. Part of the issue was, of course, the fact that this had been on file for 5 years -— “I should have acted sooner,” the State claimed -— like I go check the records of every kid born in the State of Texas.

BUT they kid still bears my name, and the birth certificate STILL lists me as the father. My wills and trusts take this into account.

All because a crack whore saw me in the paper.


18 posted on 04/10/2007 1:42:16 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Shadowstrike
It's fraud on the mother's part...but they are very unlikely to suffer any consequences for extorting money from a man who isn't the father of their child.

There was a bill in California to help men who had been falsely named as fathers...Gray Davis vetoed the bill to please the NOW contingent.

In each case the child has a real father--why isn't he being asked to support his child?

19 posted on 04/10/2007 1:43:02 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Quick or Dead

Laws were passed to reward the feminazi man-haters by making men miserable. They have done just what they were supposed to do.


20 posted on 04/10/2007 1:44:47 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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