Posted on 04/17/2007 8:55:01 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
BLACKSBURG, Va. -- The suspected gunman in the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, Cho Seung-Hui, was a troubled 23-year-old senior from South Korea who investigators believe left an invective-filled note in his dorm room, sources say.
The note included a rambling list of grievances and ended with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.
(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...
Islam does come to bear on this. He had the words: Ismail Ax written in red ink on one of his arms.
“Ibrahim went towards the temple armed with an ax. ....with his ax he destroyed all the statues except one, the biggest of them. He hung the ax around its neck and left.....Allah rewarded Sarah with a son, Ishaq in spite of her old age. Sarah prayed Allah to bless Hajar and Ibrahim with a child. And so came Ismail, a baby boy born to Hajar.”
http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/ibrahim.htm
See my reply #301.
Very similar looking fellow indeed. Where is he from?
You don’t suppose there was a gay connection, do you? My fertile imagination can come up with several scenarios that would cover killing a girl(friend)....
Nope, he just had the name of the biological progenitor of Islam written on his arm when he died. Nothing to see here...
It is estimated that there are up to 40,000 Muslim adherents in Korea, excluding resident migrant workers. In South Korea, the Muslim population has been steadily increasing since the introduction of the faith shortly after the Korean War. The Muslim community is centered around Seoul, where the first large 20th-century mosque was built in 1976 using the funds of the Malaysian Islamic Mission and other Islamic countries.
I had found that earlier, too, so you may be in to something.
I heard the note is 3 pages long. Yet we are only seeing small excerpts that seem to be incrementally leaked.
Sorry about your friend. For many people, Effexor is evil stuff often called Side-Effexor. Who told your friend to go cold turkey? All over the Net you can find sites devoted to How to get off Effexor...it’s time release stuff, apparently, with some users recommending literally counting out the tiny grains of the drug and eliminating one grain per day.
-Thanks for the update, I had a feeling that the summary was most likely a compilation of sentences obtained from multiple unrelated entries however I sure would like to find a confirmed Muslim link with this sick satistic killer.
UP hasn't existed for at least 30 years. Its successor, UPI, hasn't been relevant for at least 10.
That aside, initial reports are unreliable. That is not media bias, sensationalism or incompetence -- it's just a fact of life. If you don't know that, you have clearly never worked in a newsroom.
Try this thought experiment -- something just happened in an office down the hall. Your boss tells you to go there, find out what happened, and report back in five minutes. You walk into the room, and find some people bleeding, some tending to the bleeding, and others staring at the wall in shock.
You can't go back to the boss with nothing more than "it's f'ed up down there." So you ask what happened, and everyone starts yelling at the same time. All are wigged out. Most are confused. Their accounts conflict with each other. Many are relating what they heard from an unidentified someone else. They're all talking at the same time and your boss wants an answer NOW.
So you tell the boss, "this is what they tell me," with abundant disclaimers, because you HAVE to tell him something. Then you go back and try to sift through all the information coming in.
Breaking news is chaos and panic, a massive adrenaline rush for the reporters and sources alike. At the best of times, someone is calm enough to tamp down the rumors and make sure things are properly sourced, but that doesn't always happen. Rumors slip through.
Conspiracy theorists like to claim that some elements found in initial reports that weren't repeated later prove a cover-up. 99% of the time, they weren't repeated because they were wrong.
I cited one example, the Centennial Olympic Park bomb, from personal experience. While official information was still absent, I ran into a group of people talking. One said an electrical transformer had blown up on one of the light towers. Another said he was a lineman, and that there were no transformers on the towers. A Vietnam vet said it sounded like a land mine. One of the security guards thought it was a car backfiring.
Lucky for me, I didn't have to try to stitch that together into something coherent. I was just a techie who stepped out for a smoke, and I wasn't expected to report. I don't know what I would have told my bosses if I had to tell them something.
The CBS News site contains several stories and excerpts. What it appears that you have is the front end of a story about the VT shooter and then the Islam search term hit on a piece of a story about Barrack Obama containing the word Islam.
I brought up the CBS page and verified it:
One third down the page:
We now know the suspect was 23-year-old Tech senior Cho Seung-Hui, who yesterday was being identified only as a "young Asian male." In a press release, CBS News initially referred to him as Sueng-hui Cho. The discrepancy comes from the fact that Korean surnames are listed first, while in America they appear at the end of a name. CBS News is now referring to the suspect as Cho Seung-Hui, which follows the Korean tradition.
Go to bottom of page and click "Later Entries" Top story on that page (which seems to have scrolled off the front page since Google cached it).
Barack Obama has arguably the most diverse religious background of any candidate ever. He was raised in Indonesia by a Christian mother and Muslim stepfather and attended a Catholic school -- but while growing up, also studied Islam. That background sparked rumors that he had studied in a radical madrassa, or Quranic school -- rumors his campaign denied, declaring that Obama is now a practicing Christian.
So, it's a false alarm. The Islam excerpt immediately looked like a story about Obama and when I checked it out, that's exactly what I found.
You are correct, please see my post #281
ctdonath2’s link to the blog with that pic. You can choose properties for that pic and find the link. Sorry to be impolite but I’m currently figuring how much more the govt is going to pick my pocket this year.
They do look similar though the pic on the right shows a somewhat longish face. But hard to tell with the mugshot type pic on the left.
The story in holy scriptures is somewhat different! Interesting that the Koran is made up with bits and pieces of the Bible and then story sounding stories added to it.
UP long gone? Oooops! Showing my age! So Associated Press has no competition? Another case of a monopoly. Sad.
The point I was trying to make was: all the instant reports which were, according to you, unsubstantiated, should not have been made UNTIL they had their finger on some real evidence. I don’t like the vision of a bunch of reporters running around like chickens with their heads cut off, trying to make points. I tend not to believe them in the end. And I definitely do think that if this is really an enemy attack, it will be covered up clear to China.
What if this killer is a "Manchurian candidate" carrying out his programming?
What if this killer is a space alien who managed to tuck in his tentacles and blend in among us?
What if this killer is a cyborg transported back in time from some distant future?
There is no evidence of what you suggest. None. I prefer to deal in fact than in "what if."
During the Cold War, we were so focused on the threat of communism that we completely missed the threat of militant Islam. I 'd like to hope that we've learned, and that we won't have so many blinders on again.
I understand your brevity, no worries! :)
However, the meat of my question is that I went to that blog, but did not find that picture. Either it’s been removed or I didn’t click on something that links to it.
Yes, the two guys look very similar, though the glasses are slightly different. Still similar, perhaps he changed prescriptions between pics?
What book is your freeper name from...I can’t remember.
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