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The question after the election disaster of 2008 will be, which betrayal did in the GOP?
May 17, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/17/2007 3:07:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

  1. The war.
  2. Failure to secure the borders.
  3. Amnesty.
  4. McCain-Feingold.
  5. Big government.
  6. Big spending.
  7. Abortion.
  8. Gay marriage/gay agenda.
  9. Gun control.
  10. Failure to protect private property.
  11. Failure to abide by the constitution.
  12. Failure to enforce the law.
  13. Corruption.
  14. Too many RINOs.
  15. Lack of spine.
  16. Loss of testicles.
  17. Failure to run conservative candidates.
  18. Most of the above.
  19. All of the above.
  20. Other.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abortion; amnesty; corruption; elections; gayagenda; illegalaliens; rinos; rkba
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To: EBH
Lack of LEADERSHIP

I think that one covers many of the others. It certainly explains why the GOP is now leaning toward a candidate whose main virtue is talking tough. Giuliani comes across as the leader so conspicuously absent in the formerly GOP Congress and in the White House. The fact that he would lead the country in directions conservatives don't want to go seems irrelevant to his supporters, so great is their eagerness for vision and determination of any stripe.

181 posted on 05/17/2007 4:19:26 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: NVDave; TornadoAlley3

Having lived in a state where there is no effective competition for the Democrats, I’ve seen the damage they can do. Having at least half of the office holders Repubs would have made it more difficult for the Dems to have their way, even with some of those being not quite as conservative as I might like.


182 posted on 05/17/2007 4:19:45 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
That, and the negativity that accompanies it, brought us Ross Perot, and Bill Clinton for two terms. This brought us even more empowered Islamic radicals, with whom we've had to deal since.

Agreed, but anyone who blames the voters for last year's debacle, and not the politicians who let them down, is the one inviting disaster in 08.

183 posted on 05/17/2007 4:20:27 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: jammer

I have no intention of seeing that happen. ANd I don’t believe it will.


184 posted on 05/17/2007 4:20:41 PM PDT by pissant
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To: SuziQ
Sure, if they are Repubs and not RINOs.
185 posted on 05/17/2007 4:21:27 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: pissant
I don't want to see it happen either. Which is why I'm kind of hoping I die before November 2008.
186 posted on 05/17/2007 4:22:09 PM PDT by jakewashere (politically incorrect and proud of it since 1982)
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To: TornadoAlley3
And don’t say WOT because they care nothing about our national security or they would close the borders and stop the invasion.

You folks keep talking about this invasion across the borders, but I haven't heard of any Mexicans flying planes into buildings, killing thousands, or blowing up embassies, killing hundreds.

Yes, the immigration problem needs to be solved, but I don't now, nor will I ever, equate it with the War on Terror.

187 posted on 05/17/2007 4:22:41 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

“What, since I’m a Republican in an overwhelming Democrat state I don’t have any idea what I’m talking about? Do you have any idea how silly that sounds”?


Nothing I could say could be sillier than your suggestion that I waste my vote on Rudy. I’d rather poke a sharp stick in my eye, and least it would feel better when I stopped! Either you have a really strong stomach, or you are making buku bucks, to live in Massachusetts!


188 posted on 05/17/2007 4:22:52 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: jongaltsr

Conservatives in the GOP are being treated like the Dems treat Blacks. They’ll promise everything under the sun to get us to vote for them and once elected forget who got them there. This immigration thing goes into law and they’ve seen the last time I vote for them. Some one needs to get that picture of Gore gazing down the barrell of his M-16 and photo shop an elephant head onto it.


189 posted on 05/17/2007 4:23:29 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: Jim Robinson

Ineffectiveness on all of the above, plus the daily Chinese water torture of the lying anti-American media.


190 posted on 05/17/2007 4:23:53 PM PDT by GOPANDCHRISTIANTOO
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To: Jim Robinson

No. 19 - All of the above. Plus, we can probably count on a few more. I still won’t vote for a Democrat and I will vote.


191 posted on 05/17/2007 4:25:02 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: jakewashere

LOL. It ain’t worth that. America will be fine in the end.


192 posted on 05/17/2007 4:25:05 PM PDT by pissant
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To: GVnana

Well, with one small exception, I think you’ve been a magnificent FReeper/FRiend!!! (I din’t even ping yer old GVgirl name)


193 posted on 05/17/2007 4:25:22 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: jakewashere

LOL


194 posted on 05/17/2007 4:25:36 PM PDT by jdm
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To: pissant

“LOL. It ain’t worth that. America will be fine in the end.”

Only if Jesus comes back in the next 17 months.


195 posted on 05/17/2007 4:26:02 PM PDT by jakewashere (politically incorrect and proud of it since 1982)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
The exit polls showed that the Republican base DID SHOW UP - it was the independents that sat out or voted DIM. Stop repeating this trope.

You certainly couldn't prove that by the blustering on this forum, both before, and after the election!

196 posted on 05/17/2007 4:26:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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bookmark


197 posted on 05/17/2007 4:27:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jakewashere

If you can’t see any difference between the Republicans and Democrats, you’re not looking too hard.


198 posted on 05/17/2007 4:27:33 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Those that plotted Fort Dix were here illegally and had been arrested dozens of times....yet no one knew they were illegal? Didn’t bother to check? You think it’s just Mexicans that are coming across the border? What do you want to do, wait until you know for sure that terrorists have attacked us and came across the border to do it? Okay, then it will be part of the WOT.
199 posted on 05/17/2007 4:27:48 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: Jim Robinson

It really does not matter. We have to hold our noses one more time, and vote republican in massive numbers. The real battle is not the presidency, or the house or the senate. The real battle that must be won is the supreme court. We got some ancient libs that are barely breathing sitting there, and we have to have conservative judges sitting there. One last time we need the presidency and the senate. Then the purge can begin.


200 posted on 05/17/2007 4:27:57 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Nothin' from Nothin' leaves Nothin')
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