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It's Wrong for the Right to be Rudyphobic
National Review Online ^ | October 12, 2007 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 10/15/2007 4:29:47 AM PDT by StatenIsland

“The most important ‘traditional value’ in this election is keeping the Clintons out of the White House,” says Greg Alterton, an evangelical Christian who has “spent my entire professional career considering how my faith impacts, or should impact, the arena in which I work” — government and politics. Alterton writes for SoConsForRudy.com and counts himself among Rudolph W. Giuliani’s social-conservative supporters.

People like Alterton are important, if overlooked, in the Republican presidential sweepstakes. Anti-Giuliani Religious Rightists are far more visible. Also conspicuous are pundits whose cartoon version of social conservatism regards abortion and gay rights as “the social issues,” excluding other traditionalist concerns.

New York’s former mayor “has abandoned social conservatism,” commentator Maggie Gallagher complains. He “is anathema to social conservatives,” veteran columnist Robert Novak recently wrote. Focus on the Family founder Dr. James Dobson has said: “I cannot, and will not, vote for Rudy Giuliani in 2008. It is an irrevocable decision.” Dobson and a cadre of Religious Right leaders threaten to deploy a pro-life, third-party candidate should Giuliani be nominated.

This “Rudyphobia” ignores three key factors: Giuliani’s pro-family/anti-abortion ideas, his socially conservative mayoral record, and his popularity among churchgoing Republicans.

While Giuliani accepts a woman’s right to an abortion, he told Iowa voters on August 7: “By working together to promote personal responsibility and a culture of life, Americans can limit abortions and increase adoptions.” Among Giuliani’s proposals to achieve this end:

“My administration will streamline the adoption process by removing the heartbreaking bureaucratic delays that burden the current process.” Giuliani notes that sclerotic court schedules, exhausted social workers, and tangled red tape trap some 115,000 boys and girls in foster care and prevent moms and dads from adopting them.

Giuliani proposes that the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives promote organizations that help women choose adoption over abortion.

He would make permanent the $10,000 adoption tax credit.

Giuliani also would encourage states and cities to report timely and complete statistics to measure progress in abortion reduction.

This is no sudden conversion on the road to Washington. As mayor, Giuliani did nothing to advance abortion. That helps explains why, on his watch, total abortions fell 13 percent across America, but slid 17 percent in New York. More significant, between 1993 and 2001, Gotham’s tax-funded Medicaid abortions plunged 23 percent.

Medicaid reimbursement figures from the New York State Division of the Budget allow a rough calculation of the Giuliani administration’s expenditures on taxpayer-financed abortions. This estimated funding dropped 22.85 percent, from $1,226,414 in 1993 to $946,175 in 2001. (See more here.)

Giuliani’s campaign for personal responsibility helped create a climate that discouraged abortion. Moving 58 percent of welfare recipients from public assistance to self-reliance, starting before President Clinton signed federal welfare reform, may have encouraged women and men to avoid unwanted pregnancies. New York’s transformation from chaos to order — which helped slash overall crime by 57 percent and homicide by 67 percent — probably reinforced such self-control.

Compared to the eight Democratic years before he arrived, adoptions under Giuliani soared 133 percent. Fiscal years 1987 to 1994 saw 11,287 adoptions; this grew to 27,561 between FY 1995 and FY 2002.

In another pro-family policy, Giuliani divested 78 percent of City Hall’s vast portfolio of confiscated, property-tax-delinquent homes. These were privatized and sold to families and individuals.

Giuliani proposed eliminating the city’s $2,000 marriage penalty. (As individuals, a husband and wife each would enjoy a $7,500 standard deduction, but only write off $13,000 if they jointly filed taxes.) He chopped it to just $400, letting joint-filers share a $14,600 deduction.

Giuliani also opposed gay marriage in 1989, long before it shot onto the radar. “My definition of family is what it is,” Giuliani told Newsday 18 years ago. “It does not include gay marriage as part of that definition.”

On Day 24 of his mayoralty, Giuliani jettisoned New York’s minority and women-owned business set-aside program. He later explained: “The whole idea of quotas to me perpetuates discrimination.” During the 12-year “Republican Revolution,” Congress deserted the fight for colorblindness.

Giuliani sliced or scrapped 23 taxes totaling $9.8 billion and shrank Gotham’s tax burden by 17 percent. This left parents more money for children’s healthcare, private-school tuition, etc.

On education, Giuliani launched a $10 million fund to support 17 new charter schools. Zero existed before he arrived. Giuliani also ended tenure for principals, fought for vouchers, and torpedoed City University’s open admissions and social-promotion policies.

“I took a city that was also known as the pornography capitol of this country,” Giuliani told New Hampshire voters last June. “I got through a ground-breaking re-zoning that was challenged in the courts. We won. And now, if you go to New York City, you don’t have to be bombarded with pornography. And the city has grown dramatically — economically, physically, and spiritually.”

Giuliani accomplished this and plenty more — not in Tulsa, Oklahoma, but in New York City. He could have governed comfortably as a pro-abortion, pro-welfare, pro-quota, soft-on-crime, tax-and-spend, liberal Republican. Instead, Giuliani relentlessly pushed Reaganesque socio-economic reforms through a City Council populated by seven Republicans and 44 Democrats. What’s so liberal about that?

This record, and Giuliani’s headstrong style, may explain why he leads his competitors and impresses churchgoers. An October 3 ABC/Washington Post poll of 398 Republican and GOP-leaning adults found Giuliani outrunning former senator Fred Thompson, 34 percent to 17, versus Senator John McCain’s 12 percent, and Willard Mitt Romney’s 11. (Error margin +/- 5 percent.) As “most electable,” Giuliani took 50 percent, versus McCain’s 15, Thompson’s 13, and Romney’s 6.

An October 3 Gallup survey found Giuliani enjoying a 38 percent net-favorable rating among churchgoing Catholics, compared to McCain’s 29, and Thompson’s 25. Among Protestant churchgoers, Thompson edges Giuliani 26 percent to 23, with McCain at 16, and Romney at 7.

What do Giuliani’s Religious Right detractors really fear he will do about abortion? If he can overcome their suspicions, secure the GOP nomination, and win the White House, do Giuliani’s critics actually believe he would squander that victory and enrage the GOP base by pushing abortion? Do his foes honestly think Giuliani would request federal abortion funding in violation of the Hyde Amendment he says he supports or appoint activist Supreme Court justices, rather than Antonin Scalia- and Clarence Thomas-style constitutionalists, as he says he would?

Having kept or exceeded his mayoral promises on taxes, spending, crime, welfare, and quality of life, why would he break his presidential promises on such a signature GOP issue? What kind of bait and switch do Giuliani’s foes truly worry he will attempt?

The contrast between Giuliani and Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, could not be sharper. She would appoint pro-abortion justices and lower-court judges. These jurists also would be softer on crime, racial preferences, unions, and eminent-domain abuse than Giuliani’s would be.

Hillary Clinton also would take President Bush’s embryonic stem-cell program and expand it in every direction. If Giuliani does not padlock it, he at least would be more sympathetic than Clinton to privatizing it. If America must banish embryos to Petri dishes, let Lilly, Merck, and Pfizer do this. It is inconceivable that Hillary Clinton would shift anything from Washington to the private sector, especially America’s “greedy, wicked” pharmaceutical companies.

Religious Right leaders should study Giuliani’s entire socially conservative record, not just the “socially liberal” caricature of it that hostile commentators and lazy journalists keep sketching. Giuliani’s October 20 appearance before the Family Research Council will permit exactly that. Also, while Giuliani may not be their dream contender, social conservatives should not make the perfect the enemy of the outstanding. Ultimately, they should recognize that a pro-life, third-party candidate would subtract votes from Giuliani in November 2008.

That would raise the curtain on a 3-D horror epic for social conservatives: “The Clintons Reconquer Washington” — bigger, badder, and more vindictive than ever.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deroymurdock; elections; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; rudy; shillingforrudy; thenextpresident
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To: calcowgirl

Wow. So we were absent the truth. Gives the Roto rooties one less talking point.

I like post# 1790 at that link! A classic.


161 posted on 10/15/2007 12:43:38 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: bpop; Man50D
What then is Bush?

A major disappointment.

162 posted on 10/15/2007 12:45:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: indylindy; calcowgirl
Gives the Roto rooties one less talking point.

You obviously haven't spent enough time observing the left, facts NEVER stand in the way of talking points.

163 posted on 10/15/2007 12:46:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Robinson
There’s no way in hell that the cross dressing, gun grabbing abortionist liberal Rudy Giuliani’s ever going to sit behind Ronald Reagan’s desk.

Word.

Regards

164 posted on 10/15/2007 12:48:37 PM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. A "Concerned )Citizen".)
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To: bpop
There is absolutely nothing liberal about Giuliani’s views on the role of the federal government, taxes, spending, crime, immigration (post 9-11),separation of powers, national defense, the war, islamo-fascism, pornography, and a host of other issues.

Then you obviously haven't looked at his record. Support for illegal immigration, record growth in government, huge debt obligations, gun control, constitutional abuses, etc. I don't care if you call it liberal or just-plain-wrong. I'll never vote for him.

165 posted on 10/15/2007 12:54:44 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: wagglebee
typical Reagan bashing post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1911425/posts?page=75#75

I protest your characterization that this is Reagan bashing.

Ronald Reagan DID sign a bill in June 14, 1967 liberalizing California abortion laws (that was before Roe vs. Wade).

See here : The Ronald Reagan Archive

Yes, he did live to regret it. But that does not mean he didn't sign it. face the facts and stop calling someone who voted for him twice a basher.

A man is entitled to change his mind, but we cannot change the facts.
166 posted on 10/15/2007 12:57:35 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: StatenIsland

Drop dead, Deroy Murdock.


167 posted on 10/15/2007 12:59:40 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: bpop
What then is Bush? Spends money light it falls out of thin air, but wears his SoCon bonafides on his sleeve.

Liberal or conservative?


He is a flaming socialist.
168 posted on 10/15/2007 1:00:57 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

I agree-but he was better than Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.

So we held our noses and voted for him.


169 posted on 10/15/2007 1:05:09 PM PDT by bpop
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To: SirLinksalot

Protest away, but trying to say that Reagan was an abortionist to try to make Rooty look better is still a LIE!


170 posted on 10/15/2007 1:06:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Two-thirds of the states, NOT two-thirds of the population.

Um, no! Two-thirds of both houses of congress and three-quarters of each of the individual states.

171 posted on 10/15/2007 1:27:33 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: LowCountryJoe

You are correct, I was responding to a post and failed to double-check everything.


172 posted on 10/15/2007 1:28:51 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: darkangel82
We’ve heard all the RINO talking points before.

So, you're not tone-deaf to your own voices, afterall.

173 posted on 10/15/2007 1:29:48 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: LowCountryJoe

IF you were trying to be funny, it failed.


174 posted on 10/15/2007 1:30:42 PM PDT by darkangel82 (All right! Let's go Tribe!!)
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To: Man50D
It implies one can also be fiscally liberal(aka socialist) at the same time. It is impossible to support those issues that oppose socialism while supporting spending boat loads of taxpayer dollars on issues favored by socialists! Social conservative is another deceptive politically correct term used by socialists to disguise themselves as conservatives. Either you are a conservative or you are a socialist.

Really!? Then how else would you describe someone like Mike Huckabee?

175 posted on 10/15/2007 1:31:53 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: darkangel82
IF you were trying to be funny, it failed.

Oh, you heard that, too? Funny thing about RINOs, a list of them get published quite regularly by Human Events and TheClub For Growth. How many position of those two orginazations do you actually endorse/champion?

176 posted on 10/15/2007 1:39:02 PM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: StatenIsland
Ah, I see. I'm supposed to put my imprimatur, by deliberately voting for him/her/it, on a candidate whose political philosophy has no point in common with mine to avoid the election of another whose political philosophy have no point in common with mine?

Just to avoid the label "democrat" in favor of the label "republican" and ignore the actuality of liberalism?

177 posted on 10/15/2007 1:47:13 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: wagglebee

Right and do you really believe we are there yet?


178 posted on 10/15/2007 2:05:59 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: wagglebee

Dear wagglebee,

Actually, a constitutional amendment requires two thirds of each House of Congress, and then ratification by three quarters of the states.

sitetest


179 posted on 10/15/2007 2:26:21 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: StatenIsland

No Rudy Toot ever.


180 posted on 10/15/2007 3:09:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but she can't tuna fish.)
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