Posted on 10/20/2007 2:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
"I speak for at least half the people here, including the Founder Jim Robinson, who has stated he will not vote for Giuliani under any circumstance."
Agree.
Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life every time. It's the way you always win.
‘We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life — the unborn — without diminishing the value of all human life.’ —Ronald Reagan
Betting it's higher than 50%
Zogby Poll: Half Say They Would Never Vote for Hillary Clinton for President
That’s true, but sometimes the electorate overrides our individual wishes and a guy like Giuliani gets the nod. If that happens, the party cannot depend on my individual vote. I can’t speak for anyone else.
“Reality is Mr. Giuliani will not make abortion his litmus test for appointing federal judges (as most certainly will Democrats), however, Mr. Giuliani will appoint conservative judges to the bench. Being a conservative in terms of the law will be his guidelines (as it should be).
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Rudy is a LIAR, so he cannot be trusted on any level, especially on the appointment of Federal judges. Rudy is a reprobate.
Rudy must go!
Watch out. James Dobson was demonized and ridiculed for saying exactly the same thing.
Agreed. California FReepers will have a lot to say about this. With all the votes this state has, if Rudy can't take CA, he would have a rough row to hoe. Make sure all your like thinking friends get out for the primary.
“Any society that stands by silently while 3500 babies per day are murdered does not have the moral authority to lead the free world.”
Such a society also cannot expect the blessings of the Almighty God, from Whom all life originates.
Don’t mean to boast, but... on my parents’ behalf...
more than 70 living descendents-not all old enough to vote
yet. Of those who vote, none vote for death.
God bless you!
the primary attention is the key.
The fact of the matter is voting against Giuliani in the primary is the SAME as voting against Hillary Clinton in the primary.
The thing is, is that the RNC establishment & party hacks such as Governor Good Hair & Rep. Sessions are shilling for Rudy. Rudy and his stooge Vanity at Faux News (see tagline) are trying to give Rudy the nomination on a silver platter. We got our work cut out for us, but I'm confident Rudy won't get nominated, and if he is, conservatives will simply vote 3rd party as we should.
That would be best. In the meantime, we need to send a loud and clear message to the GOP and its liberal, moderate and pro-abortion RINO wing, and other weak-kneed, hand-wringing members, if you abandon the party’s long-standing conservative principles and the party’s platform of defending life and liberty by nominating a constitution trampling abortionist, you will never ever win another election and your party dies.
We have to pray that Giuliani will not be the nominee, but the polls aren’t looking good.
I only vote my conscience every time. But if it does come down to a choice between Giuliani and Clinton for President, I may have to painfully choose the lesser of two evils.
We can expect some Supreme Court Justices to retire in these next four years. I know Giuliani is pro-choice and stands by that, but he says (FWIW) he will appoint judges like Alito and Roberts. That gives me SOME hope for his picks, whereas I have absolutely ZERO hope with Clinton’s. Those judges will likely stay there for many years, so we are not talking about just the 4-year-long presidency.
This is in no way meant as a defense of Guiliani. First of all, we all just need to get a real Republican elected in the primary.
I will not vote for Rudy G. if I can avoid it, but his court nominees I am quite certain would be far preferable to any that any Democrat would put forth. While Rudy is not pro-life, neither is he pro-abortion, in my opinion. That is, I don’t believe he would pursue a rabidly pro-abortion agenda, as would any Democrat, and especially the Hildebeast.
That being said, my ticket of preference is Hunter/Thompson, or vice versa.
You are asking conservatives to throw away their principles in exchange for political expediency that will change at the drop of a dime when Rudy's safely in the WH. No thanks. If the race is between Hillary and Rudy and if there are no alternatives, I will laugh my ass off when Rudy loses to Hillary.
That was exactly my point. The solution is in the primaries. When we get to the general election is where we disagree. Any party will lose if they have a faction, any faction, that stays home. As to the general election and folks not voting for a RINO I would suggest it is counter productive to the pro life movement in that there will be several Supreme Court justices appointed during the next term. Even a Rudy appointment will be better than a Clinton appointment. If faced with the choice of either Rudy or Hillary a vote for Rudy will save more lives than a protest vote.
We need to “Swift Boat” Rudy....the MSM will not show him as a liberal.
Giuliani is the new Bob Dole.
The GOP leadership of the effete elites inside the beltway and NYC snoberatti think Giuliani is “due” because THEY think he is electable and conservatives will not go anywhere.
no Giuliani, no problem
If you feel sorry for the baby seal when you see the picture of it about to be clubbed to death, think of what they do to the baby humans with their knives.
Great post, Jim. (You been here long?)
I know, as well as the MSM - they’re all pushing Rudy as a fail-safe. Abortion is probably the biggest tenet of the left, but you can’t put lipstick on a pig and sell it.
Reality is that politicians will lie their asses off to get elected.
The Rooty Rooters have either been duped by a charlatan or they don't really care about life.
From Family Research Council’s “Values Voter Summit” - Afternoon Session, Star Parker (at about 1 hr into the session):
“We WILL NOT COMPROMISE on the life of the unborn”
http://www.c-span.org/videoarchives.asp?CatCodePairs=,&ArchiveDays=100
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