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Reviews Are in on Thompson's Debate Performance
Campaigns & Elections ^ | October 21, 2007 | Karen Hanretty

Posted on 10/22/2007 9:59:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

"Helped Themselves a Lot Tonight: Fred Thompson"

- National Review

"We had been waiting for any speech, any debate appearance, any event with Thompson to be a 'wow, that was fantastic.' Well, tonight was that moment we've been waiting for."

- National Review

"Fred Thompson delivers the first blow..."

- ABC News Political Radar

"Fred going on offense."

- Politico

"Thompson revved up."

- Time

"Kudos to Fred Thompson for coming out swinging tonight."

- Townhall

"He [Fred] ought to get serious points for guts."

- National Review

"'If a man can do all that and be lazy, I recommend it to everybody,' Thompson said to loud applause. Nice comeback."

- Politico

"That was a really, really strong response from Thompson" [Reference to final question]

- NBC

"Fred Thompson did quite well. Once again, he ended strong."

- Townhall

"Thompson's ability to slug it out with Giuliani, coupled with overall improvement in the quality of his answers, makes him one of tonight's winners."

- Powerline

"But if this debate is remembered at all, it will probably be because Fred Thompson, arguably a sleeping giant, seemed to wake up."

- Powerline


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Tennessee
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Some good reviews from established media and blogs.
1 posted on 10/22/2007 9:59:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But but but...

He still looks old...

Sheesh...


2 posted on 10/22/2007 10:01:11 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Came off much better than the first debate.


3 posted on 10/22/2007 10:02:32 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture )
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


4 posted on 10/22/2007 10:02:45 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...But, but, he's lazy, he's, he's...ill. He must've had his hot wife backstage cooing answers in his ear. His suit are too tight (or loose, depending on the event) and he rubs his fingers across his nose (eww!). Besides, he's bald.

It doesn't matter how he performs, all the above make him a no-show for the voter, don'cha know?

5 posted on 10/22/2007 10:03:52 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred Thompson ‘08!


6 posted on 10/22/2007 10:04:58 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IMO last nights winners:

1- Thompson
2- McCain ( yeah I know but he did good )
3- Romney

The press seems intent on not giving Hunter any real time asking him 1 question to everyone else’s 4-5.

Ron Paul anchored his position as village idiot, Tancredo is a one issue candidate ( albeit I agree that one issue is a bog one and does inter-twine with others ), and Huckabee as n Arkansas goober.


7 posted on 10/22/2007 10:05:51 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thompson is our best crack at a conservative candidate.
Hunter is better, but the media keeps ignoring him.

If Giuliani wins and Thompson shows enough fire, Giuliani might pick him to shore up conservative votes.


8 posted on 10/22/2007 10:06:51 AM PDT by ZULU (We)
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To: Resolute Conservative

McCain had the best lines of the night.


9 posted on 10/22/2007 10:06:58 AM PDT by JRochelle (Rudy voted for McGovern in '72. Romney voted for Tsongas in '92.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He reminds me of John Riggins - the Diesel. Takes a bit to get up to speed, but tough to stop once he’s going.


10 posted on 10/22/2007 10:07:07 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: ZULU

Thompson has already ruled out being VP.


11 posted on 10/22/2007 10:07:38 AM PDT by JRochelle (Rudy voted for McGovern in '72. Romney voted for Tsongas in '92.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I myself, would like a Thompson/Hunter ticket.

Fred did great in the debate. He also stuck it to liberal Rooty.


12 posted on 10/22/2007 10:07:47 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: ZULU

Dream on. Rooty will pick whoever the gnomes in the MSM tell him to pick to ensure a victory for her with no name.


13 posted on 10/22/2007 10:09:05 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

whoever = whomever


14 posted on 10/22/2007 10:09:26 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ZULU
Thompson is our best crack at a conservative candidate.
Hunter is better, but the media keeps ignoring him.

Thompson should choose Duncan Hunter as his VP candidate

15 posted on 10/22/2007 10:09:49 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government if and when it deserves it)
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To: bcsco

No man his age with a wife like his is lazy. Tired maybe, but definitely not lazy.


16 posted on 10/22/2007 10:10:33 AM PDT by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Okay, here goes:

If this these reviews are correct and
If Fred did get more aggressive and
If Fred did “catch fire,” as it were, then:

Fred may have a good enough organization to listen to the feedback from the voters and adapt accordingly.

Very good. - Most pols really only do one of two things:
Ignore the voters and listen to themselves, or:
Tell everyone everything that they want to hear.

Cautious optimism is warranted.

17 posted on 10/22/2007 10:10:46 AM PDT by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: clamper1797

Yes or as SecDef and make Steele, Barbour, or Watts his VP. A good long shot would be Santorum.

I would like to see Peter Pace approached.

Let the grooming for 2016 begin.


18 posted on 10/22/2007 10:11:58 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: clamper1797
Thompson should choose Duncan Hunter as his VP candidate

That's my dream team.

And for the rest....

He looks ill. He has no “fire in the belly.” (quickly becoming the most hackneyed saying on this board, up with “gravitas” and “vitriol.”)
He was for Campaign Finance Reform.
He is a member of the nefarious CFR.
He doesn’t really drive around DC in a red pickup.
He once had a third cousin related to a lawyer who was pro-RoeVWade.
He has very little experience (despite having more than any Rat).
He once spent 3 hrs smoking a cigar with a consultant to the Grand Sultan of Dubai.
Despite being a God-fearing man, he hasn’t put on knee-pads for an otherwise sensible J. Dobson.
And finally, he married a younger, smart woman, who he clearly loves very much, after divorcing amicably with his first wife 20 years ago.
Am I leaving anything out??? I just wanted to get it all out on the thread so that the rest of comments could actually be pertinent to the race ahead.
19 posted on 10/22/2007 10:14:15 AM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: JRochelle

By far. And I don’t think puffing up Fred’s performance is going to help win in 2008. Fred was better but besides two decent one liners, there wasn’t much there. I’m growing tired of everyone proping this guy up and kidding themselves about these debates. Objectively McCain had a great performance, Fred was so-so and unmotivating.


20 posted on 10/22/2007 10:15:33 AM PDT by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: indylindy

“I myself, would like a Thompson/Hunter ticket.”

Ditto that. A great ticket.


21 posted on 10/22/2007 10:17:24 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: deaconjim

You are sooo bad...

But true.


22 posted on 10/22/2007 10:18:24 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Ron Paul anchored his position as village idiot...

The name "Barney Fife" kept popping into my mind as I watched him last night...

23 posted on 10/22/2007 10:19:01 AM PDT by LRS
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s getting better, that’s surely the consensus, and I agree.

He’s still not an “A.” Say what you will about Giuliani, but he’s the best “debate competition” debater and probably will never be bested in that particular part of campaigning. Too much experience at it from his prosecutor days (and he was probably talented at it before then).

But Fred doesn’t need to be an “A” to win.

Good news.


24 posted on 10/22/2007 10:19:25 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: bcsco

AT least his hair looked good!


25 posted on 10/22/2007 10:19:59 AM PDT by altura (Ready for Freddie)
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To: bill1952
Fred may have a good enough organization to listen to the feedback from the voters and adapt accordingly.

That's what Fred did running for senate. I expected him to start slow and keep getting better and better. So far, so good.

26 posted on 10/22/2007 10:21:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He did pretty well, save for one floundering answer on education.


27 posted on 10/22/2007 10:21:34 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: ejonesie22

“He still looks old...”

and tired and unhealthy.....(s)


28 posted on 10/22/2007 10:21:37 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: ejonesie22
He still looks old...

"I will not let my opponents' youth and inexperience become an issue in this campaign".................

29 posted on 10/22/2007 10:21:48 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: ejonesie22

He is old, like many other presidents. I am thinking of Eisenhower and Reagan in particular. Part of the problem is that he has recently lost weight.


30 posted on 10/22/2007 10:22:07 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: indylindy

I’m still thinking Fred Thompson/J.C. Watts


31 posted on 10/22/2007 10:22:40 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: LRS
The name "Barney Fife" kept popping into my mind as I watched him last night...

Except for one enormous distinction; Barney Fife was allowed to carry a bullet for his gun.

32 posted on 10/22/2007 10:22:57 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: Moonman62
...I expected him to start slow and keep getting better and better. So far, so good.

Like a big rig 18 wheeer diesel.........

33 posted on 10/22/2007 10:22:58 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: bcsco

I LIKE bald guys! :)


34 posted on 10/22/2007 10:24:06 AM PDT by SoKatt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Thompson’s ability to slug it out with Giuliani, coupled with overall improvement in the quality of his answers, makes him one of tonight’s winners.”

I have NEVER doubted Fred’s ability to slug it out — I’d have been absolutely stunned if he couldn’t.

“’If a man can do all that and be lazy, I recommend it to everybody,’ Thompson said to loud applause.”

That he might be lazy NEVER entered my mind. If anyone on these threads has come so far and accomplished as much, my hat is off to you as well as Fred.

What I’m trying desperately to do is accustom myself to his “laid-back” approach to the campaign. I’m all for the “slow, but steady wins the race,” approach, but lets pump it up, boy.

Mike Huckabee was the clear winner of the debate last night. Others held their own, rose in acceptance somewhat, but Huckabee and Hunter showed well.

Once, again, I was so proud of all of them. McCain’s star-power line about Woodstock, Rudy’s “Hillary Quote,” Fred’s “No apologies,” were show stoppers. Mitt needs to pump it up, but he lost no ground. Tancredo was priceless on the post debate interviews.

Ron Paul hit the nail on the head for medical insurance and the problems everyone is encountering (docs and patients). He’s shrill and I’d have to put cotton in my ears through every State of the Union address, and he sounds like the village idiot on other issues — BUT HE’S OUR IDIOT and the first guy who takes a shot at him will have to duck my ire.

I’m proud of the field, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM — I want them all in the White House — preferably at once. They each have a piece of the puzzle.

35 posted on 10/22/2007 10:24:16 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: altura
AT least his hair looked good!

But...but, he's bald!

Uh, oh, well, so am I...

Forget it!

36 posted on 10/22/2007 10:25:45 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: traderrob6

Well you know, he died from his cancer six months ago, so the road back to full health is a little longer than if he had simply had it treated...


37 posted on 10/22/2007 10:26:44 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I didn’t watch the debate. I’m leaning towards Fred, but I’m not committed to anything yet except that I strongly oppose Guiliani and to a lesser degree Romney.

That being said, how can you claim Fred won when in another post to FR the following is quoted:

“The Fox News Republican Presidential debate in Orlando Florida revealed that the GOP nomination is still up for grabs. According to Fox News Viewers text voting after the debate, Ron Paul won with 34%, Huckabee came in second with 27%, and Giuliani third with 11%.”

Also, based upon the write up posted on the FOX website, it appears to me that Huckabee was the most “adult” acting person of the group. They quote him:

Mike Huckabee rejected the catfight, noting that he’s content to let the other candidates fight it out. “Shed each other’s blood and then I’ll be ready to run for president because I’m not interested in fighting these guys. What I’m interested in is fighting for the American people, and I think they’re looking for a presidential candidate who’s not so interested in a demolition derby against the other people in his own party,” Huckabee said.

Again they quote him on Mrs. Clinton:

But Huckabee didn’t take so lightly the challenge posed by Clinton.

“You know, it’s interesting, the most, I guess, wonderful reaction we’ve had in this entire room is when Hillary’s name is mentioned. It gets louder than an Aerosmith concert. But I want to say this — you’ve asked: What’s the difference? No matter which one of us is on this stage — and, look, I like to be funny, let me be real honest with you. There’s nothing funny about Hillary being president,” he said.

Just based upon this information, it looks like Huckabee came out looking the best. It will be interesting if he shows a bump in the polls.

At least FOX didn’t say anything bad about Senator Thompson. It did make it look like he zapped Rudy and Mitt. Which I find a nice thing.


38 posted on 10/22/2007 10:26:54 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: All

Fred would do much better if he got rid of the “uh’s”....

Although I am still troubled by his CFR ties, I could vote for Thompson if he was the nominee. Especially if Duncan Hunter was his VP


39 posted on 10/22/2007 10:29:27 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: Red Badger
Heh heh...

That’s what I like, he looks like he has that wisdom.

I also like what someone said, though I think the were at least trying to make it a negative. They said he was “terse and commanding”

Like I don’t want a POTUS that cuts to the chase, throws no bull*hit and is in charge...

That’s for democrats...

40 posted on 10/22/2007 10:30:06 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: ejonesie22

“terse and commanding”.....not “tears and condescending”.........


41 posted on 10/22/2007 10:31:12 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I thought Thompson did very well. But I can't wait 'til the field narrows to two or three candidates. Gettin' kinda sick of these "Mass Debates".

Sorry... just couldn't help myself!
42 posted on 10/22/2007 10:31:50 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: RobbyS

Actually he is not that old, 64 is younger than some who have run.

I think you missed the subtle /s tag...

I used to note it in my tag...


43 posted on 10/22/2007 10:31:59 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: sitetest

Once he was in the open Riggo had 4.4 speed and could outrun all but the quickest DBs.


44 posted on 10/22/2007 10:32:30 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Compromise on your vote and you get a compromised government.)
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To: pissant

“save for one floundering answer on education.”

His answer was dead on in my estimation. Gutsy, accurate and exactly where I stand on the issue.


45 posted on 10/22/2007 10:33:14 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Red Badger

No, that’s John Edwards


46 posted on 10/22/2007 10:33:20 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (265 pound Lemming with attitude for Thompson!)
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To: bcsco
Except for one enormous distinction; Barney Fife was allowed to carry a bullet for his gun.

LOL! He also had Sheriff Taylor to back him up when he got in over his head!

47 posted on 10/22/2007 10:33:20 AM PDT by LRS
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To: PreciousLiberty

I was hoping to see Fred step up and he did last night, but when I learned he voted with the trial lawyers and against the doctors he lost my vote. I can’t support a candidate who supports legalized extortion.


48 posted on 10/22/2007 10:33:40 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: sitetest

>> He reminds me of John Riggins

GREAT analogy!

Man, I miss players like John Riggins...

Does the NFL even have such a player anymore?


49 posted on 10/22/2007 10:35:29 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What I saw Fred had an excellent night. His last line was something Reagan would come up with. Nailed all his critics with 1 line.

Pray for W and Our Troops


50 posted on 10/22/2007 10:35:51 AM PDT by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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