Four People Shot Outside Colorado Springs New Life Church

Fox News ^ | 09 DEC 07 | Fox News

[aomagrat]

[I waited 45 seconds and actually posted something substantial--Ed.]

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — At least four people were shot outside of a Colorado Springs church on Sunday, but it was not immediately known whether the shootings were related to an earlier shooting about 70 miles away, authorities said.

[Quix]

There is, evidently, a serious critical period going on or off the drugs for many people . . .

wherein violence is an increased potentiality for unknown reasons.

But, yeah, he had plenty going on regardless of the drugs . . . to trip him into violence.

[Rick.Donaldson]

Living in a world full of acronyms, I wish you folks wouldn’t use them. Please.

SSRI???

[Quix]

One does wonder about childhood sexual abuse . . . and what is he labeling that and by whom.

And what is reality vs fantasy vs demonized ‘astral trips.’

[Rick.Donaldson]

Hey... guess what? You’re one of those people who see conspiracy everywhere. Blackops. You have no IDEA what “Black Operations” are so quit being a dumbass about this.

[Quix]

YES.

The exaggerated sense of self-importance

is pretty standard for folks from flawed attachment backgrounds.

FATHERS who FAIL to EMPHATICALLY, DEEPLY EMOTIONALLY AFFIRM THAT THEIR CHILDREN—ESPECIALLY SONS—ARE WORTH AIR AND TAKING UP SPACE . . . set such sons up clawing for, screaming for some proof, evidence that they are WORTH breathing air and taking up space. Such efforts can easily become extreme and at least exaggerated.

[Rick.Donaldson]

Columbine ring a bell? Yup—gub’mint sponsored covert ops again. Over 100 witnesses saw or heard other shooters besides Harris and Klebold.

Hey, Starviego, did you come over here from Anomalies? If you're not familiar with it, that's the site I used to run, now, what don't you run along with your childish, imbecilic accusations that are completely untrue and take your immature, ignorant self to another site that will welcome you. http://www.anomalies.net they LOVE to hear from Conspiracy theorists like yourself.

You're not going to sit here on this site though and get away long with saying those things. If you're not already gone (I see you posted those many hours ago) you will be soon.

If I were you though, unless you have some SPECIFIC EVIDENCE for some kind of "black ops" exercise, then STFU. Because, you know that nothing you say is going to be backed up by anything other than innuendo and lies, you won't be providing ANY data, physical evidence, pictures or audio - so, go visit Anomalies and tell the site owner I sent you.

[Quix]

Thanks.

What a litany of personal horror—regardless of how much of it was real vs fantasized.

[Quix]

That’s a key point. He mentions in his writings that many people “reached out” to him in these churches. Even those people on that message board tried to get him to seek help. He wouldn’t go. He seems like someone who would only be happy if everything went his way and would always bite the hand that fed him. Everyone, including his parents, probably gave up on him and he became isolated. He probably did nothing but sit on is puter all day and wallowing in his own self pity over past social wrongs.

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Sounds like a high probability that your description is particularly apt and accurate, to me.

[Quix]

I’ve known a number of families . . . who knows if this one is similar . . .

wherein the father was a workaholic . . .

the mother was more than a little mentally, emotionally twisted . . . isolated . . .

developed at least an emotionally incestuous relationship with the son—typically the youngest son . . .

but just physical abuse—if that’s “all” it was . . . would be more than sufficient to twist even a nonsensitive child into lots of mental, emotional horrors.

. . .

[Quix]

SOOOOOOOOOOOO IMPRESSIVE.

Perhaps you should put yourself up for some award somewhere.

[Quix]

Sigh.

It sure is hard to find a balanced healthy church . . .

and even the best churches have . . .

goodness . . . flawed humans running around loose in it.

Sadly . . . do so many in leadership have to be SOOOOOOOO FLAWED?

Has long been a troubling concern of mine as well.

Perhaps the issue is FOCUS ON GOD not on flawed humans.

A teen pastor used to say . . . IF A HYPOCRIT IS BETWEEN YOU AND GOD, HE’S CLOSER TO GOD THAN YOU ARE.

Too true.

Nevertheless . . . very troubling and troublesome.

[Rte66]

Newest additions:

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937858/posts
Mika on Church Shootings: ‘Inane’ To Think Armed Citizen Can Make a Difference
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937821/posts
Former Minneapolis cop says ‘God was with me’ when she shot gunman in Colorado church hallway
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 12/11/07 | ELECTA DRAPER

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937820/posts
THE WOMAN WHO STOPPED THE KILLING (Colorado Gunman)
NY Post ^ | December 10, 2007

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937808/posts
How Many Lives Did The Concealed-Carry Licensee Save?
Captain’s Quarter’s Blog ^ Posted on 12/11/2007

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937802/posts
Pictures of Today’s Heroine, Jeanne Assam
Yahoo News ^ | Dec 10,2007

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937780/posts
Church guard’s courage under fire awes Vietnam vet
Denver Post ^ | 11 December 2007 | Kieran Nicholson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937719/posts
What Will You Do If They Shot Up Your Church? (Pray And Pack A Gun Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 12/11/2007 | Joseph Farah

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937703/posts
A Hero Among Us
10 December, 2007 | joanie-f

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937680/posts
Colorado gunman scared co-workers 5 years ago, one says
CNN ^ | 10DEC07 | CNN
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First list:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1937068/posts?page=1902#1902

[Quix]

I also came to the realization that many of the christians and christian ministries who CONDEMNED these conspiracy freaks and who condemned pentecostalism(such as hank hanegraph) were the same fake hypocrites everywhere else. They were SELLING their anti-pentecostal books and ministries for money too........

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Such a perceptiveness is hard for many Christian leaders to handle at all, much less constructively. Sadly.

Sigh.

[Quix]

Yeah. Read that one.

Incredible.

[Quix]

Sigh.

What a load of twisted pain.

. . . self-pity etc. . . .

Not at all a fun world he had to contend with . . . and created/ responded to.

[Quix]

YWAM is a WONDERFUL Christian org.

Like every org . . . it has flawed people in it. Sometimes very flawed people.

No different than any other human org. . . . though on average, I’d risk my life to folks in YWAM way before doing so with average folks in a LONG list of other Christian orgs.

[Uri’el-2012]

Living in a world full of acronyms, I wish you folks wouldn’t use them. Please.

SSRI???

2,082 posted on 12/11/2007 7:52:21 AM MST by Rick.Donaldson

Google (SSRIs)

or

ANTIDEPRESSANT CASUALTIES

or

'The clues were all there' School shooter depicted as deeply disturbed, ignored teen

or

SSRI Stories

[bahblahbah]

“””
About what I’d expected in terms of his ideations, social experiences, perspectives etc.

Thanks for the confirmation.
“””

Wait, those were his words not mine. Most of those “experiences” were probably made up or exaggerated.

[the808bass]

I haven't read all that's been posted here since I went offline last but, however, where does he indicate that he ever went to this church while Haggard was its pastor?

There is no indication of that. But he mentions Haggard in multiple posts, focusing on his alleged methamphetamine usage. And he mentions that Haggard was his mom's favorite minister.

[Quix]

Thanks.