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Illegal Alien Accused in Hit-and-Run (had a VALID Maryland drivers license)
wjla ^ | Dec 13, 2007 | Jay Korff

Posted on 12/13/2007 4:38:30 AM PST by RDTF

Laurel City Police have arrested an illegal alien in connection with a fatal hit & run in Laurel.

Police arrested 30-year-old Rodolfo Ramirez, an illegal immigrant from Guatemala who has a valid Maryland drivers license.

Police said he confessed to be the driver who hit and killed 45-year-old Ruth Storm on November 25th. The Laurel Police chief said if Ramirez had stopped at the scene, he would not have been charged.

Storm was struck and killed in the intersection of 7th Street and Main Street around 12:50 a.m. Sunday.

ABC 7/NewsChannel 8 reporter Jay Korff spoke with Storm's family who are very upset that the driver could hit someone with their car and not stop to offer help.

Karen Storm, the victim's cousin, wants to know how an illegal alien has a valid driver's license. "How do you get a license if you are an illegal alien?"

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(Excerpt) Read more at wjla.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: sickoflibs
Your Channel 4 link is from March 8 2007. At least you have the right year.

My State of Maryland Motor Vehicle Administration link is from TODAY.

Are you beginning to see a pattern, here?

41 posted on 12/13/2007 6:26:30 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Yes but the March 2007 link points out the bill failed. BTW, if you believe MD requires proof of immigration status as this failed bill would have, post the relevent details (as I did) and a repeat of the link. I dont work at the MMVA.


42 posted on 12/13/2007 6:32:22 AM PST by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: sickoflibs
The link is posted, as I have been telling you over and over, is in Post Number 17 on this thread.

Move your mouse over to the scroll bar, click and drag up until you see Post Number 17.

Click on the links to "Motor Vehicle Administration" and "Sources of Proof". They're probably in some sort of contrasting color on your browser.

Read the contents. They're rather lengthy. They also seem to contradict your sources.

43 posted on 12/13/2007 6:36:54 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RDTF
The government is responsible for allowing an illegal to have a drivers license. If I were the family of the deceased I would sue the government.
44 posted on 12/13/2007 6:38:47 AM PST by orinoco
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To: RDTF

I bet a million bucks he was drunk. The Capital which is the Annapolis, MD local paper publishes DUI/DWI convictions in Anne Arundel County on Thursdays. 25-30% of the names are Hispanic. Of those I bet most are illegal.


45 posted on 12/13/2007 6:52:10 AM PST by BreezyDog
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To: ArrogantBustard

Per your link.

Foreign/Out-of-Country documents may be used as a primary/secondary source of identification if translated into English by a
Maryland District Court interpreter/translator, an MVA approved interpreter/translator, or the Embassy of the country where issued.
Translations must be on a document prepared by a court or MVA interpreter/translator or on the letterhead of the Embassy of the
country of origin, AND must contain the typed/printed name, telephone number and signature of the interpreter/translator. The
original document must accompany the English translation. See MVA’s website at www.marylandmva.com/DriverServ/Apply/
foreign.htm for a list of approved court interpreters and translators.

http://www.marylandmva.com/Resources/DL-197.pdf


46 posted on 12/13/2007 8:06:02 AM PST by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: RDTF
The Laurel Police chief said if Ramirez had stopped at the scene, he would not have been charged.

Why the heck not? They don't have laws against vehicular manslaughter in MD?

47 posted on 12/13/2007 8:11:50 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

I guess she was technically at fault


48 posted on 12/13/2007 8:14:57 AM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: sickoflibs

Applicants presenting foreign issued identity documents who are applying for an initial Maryland Learner’s Permit, Driver’s License or
Identification Card must provide the following:
1) Proof of Age and Identity—Two primary sources OR one primary source and two secondary sources. One source must contain
the applicant’s signature and the other must contain the applicant’s date of birth. Documents presented must be original and from
separate issuing agencies or sources.
Primary Sources

• Actual Social Security Card
• Maryland Driver’s License or Identification (ID) Card
• Out-of-State driver’s license or ID card, with translation into English,
if required
• Certificate of naming from a religious institution, located in a state or
territory of the U.S. such as a baptismal certificate or synagogue
naming certificate issued in the first year of life
• Certificate of U.S. Citizenship (Form N-560 or N-561)
• I-94 Refugee’s Arrival/Departure Card/Record
• Out-of-Country driver’s license, with an international driver’s license,
or a translation into English, if required
• Valid U.S. Military ID or discharge record (Form DD-214)
• Alien Registration Receipt Card/Permanent Resident Card
(I-551)
• Certified school records from a public or private primary, secondary
or post secondary accredited educational institution located in a
state or territory of the U.S.
• Valid Out-of-Country passport
• Valid Employment Authorization Card (I-688A or I-688B)
• Valid Employment Authorization Document (I-766)
• Valid Temporary Resident Card (I-688)
• Certificate of Naturalization (Form N-550 or N-570)
• Government issued driver’s license (includes military licenses)

Secondary Sources
• Document prepared by U.S. government agency, which contains
the applicant’s signature (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number
cards are not acceptable)
• Utility or telephone bill*
• Checking or savings account statement*
• Life insurance card or policy (over 3 years old)*
• Property tax bill or receipt*
• Vehicle registration card or title*
• Pistol permit with photograph or fingerprint
• Selective service card*
• Marriage certificate
• Divorce decree
• Canceled check with imprinted name and address*
• Residential rental contract (apartment lease or other rental of real
property)*
• Mortgage account or proof of home ownership*
• Retail sales/financial institution sales agreement (excludes
agreements for rental of household goods or other personal
property)
• Employee or contractor photo identification card issued by a local,
state, or U.S. government agency
• In the case of a dependent child, a certified statement from the
child’s parent or guardian signed under penalty of perjury in the
presence of a MVA official.* Satisfactory proof of identity and
relationship of the parent or guardian to the child applicant is
required.
• Maryland Vehicle Registration Card or Title*
• Utility, telephone bill or cable/satellite TV bill*
• Checking or savings account statement*
• Life insurance card or policy (over 3 years old)*
• Property tax bill or receipt*
• Mortgage account or proof of home ownership*
• Residential rental contract (apartment lease or other rental of real
property)*
• First class mail from any federal, state or local government agency
(to include the contents and envelope); MVA mail is not acceptable
• Copy of federal or Maryland income tax return filing, not
more than 18 months old, with proof of filing
• Installment loan contract from a bank or other financial
institution
• Sales tax or business license
• Major credit card bill
• Residential service contract (refers to services performed at the
address of residence; for example, TV repair, lawn service,
exterminator contract, cable or satellite television)
• Court Order of Probation, Order of Parole or Order of Mandatory
Release
• Canceled check with imprinted name and address*
• Selective service card*
• In the case of a dependent child, the MVA may accept a certified
statement of residency from the child’s parent or guardian, signed in
the presence of an MVA official.* Satisfactory proof of identity,
Maryland residency and relationship of the parent or guardian to the
child applicant is required.

Maryland Residency Sources
• Maryland Vehicle Registration Card or Title*
• Utility, telephone bill or cable/satellite TV bill*
• Checking or savings account statement*
• Life insurance card or policy (over 3 years old)*
• Property tax bill or receipt*
• Mortgage account or proof of home ownership*
• Residential rental contract (apartment lease or other rental of real
property)*
• First class mail from any federal, state or local government agency
(to include the contents and envelope); MVA mail is not acceptable
• Copy of federal or Maryland income tax return filing, not
more than 18 months old, with proof of filing
• Installment loan contract from a bank or other financial
institution
• Sales tax or business license
• Major credit card bill
• Residential service contract (refers to services performed at the
address of residence; for example, TV repair, lawn service,
exterminator contract, cable or satellite television)
• Court Order of Probation, Order of Parole or Order of Mandatory
Release
• Canceled check with imprinted name and address*
• Selective service card*
• In the case of a dependent child, the MVA may accept a certified
statement of residency from the child’s parent or guardian, signed in
the presence of an MVA official.* Satisfactory proof of identity,
Maryland residency and relationship of the parent or guardian to the
child applicant is required.
• In the case of a married person, the MVA may accept a certified
statement of residency from the applicant’s spouse, signed in the
presence of an MVA official. Satisfactory proof of identity, Maryland
residency, and marital relationship is required.


OK ... You’re an illegal alien. Show me two primary sources of identity (or one primary and two secondary) plus two two proofs of residency. Since this is a hypothetical, and you’re not really an illegal alien ... I would be convinced by a solid explanation of where an illegal alien is going to get them.


49 posted on 12/13/2007 8:34:27 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
AB, that's actually pretty easy.

Primary source: Drivers' license from other State, or forged of the same. Matricula Consular card, or forged of the same.

Both Secondary sources can be obtained fairly easily, since there's no connection between proof of legal residency, and document validity: Utility/telephone bill, Checking/Savings account statement, Valid check, etc.

Maryland is an open door to illegal immigrants, particularly in the Communist-leaning eastern half of the State. And believe me, we here in Fairfax County are definitely suffering as a result.

50 posted on 12/13/2007 8:47:40 AM PST by Brian C. Ledbetter
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To: ArrogantBustard

Your list is a helpful (+I was always curious about the details) , now try :

1) Primary :

Foreign/Out-of-Country documents may be used as a primary/secondary source of identification if translated into English by a
Maryland District Court interpreter/translator, an MVA approved interpreter/translator, or the Embassy of the country where issued

2) Secondary Sources

Residential rental contract (apartment lease or other rental of real
property)*

The proof of residence is even more informal documents anyone would have living here.

Again no place do they check the legality of immigration status. It’s completely omitted from the list as the news articles state.


51 posted on 12/13/2007 8:54:27 AM PST by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: RDTF
I guess she was technically at fault

Well, I'm no lawyer, but I thought drivers in most states have to yield the right-of-way to pedestrians in an intersection? I'm not saying she didn't bear some responsibility, but that doesn't give this guy a free pass. It's not murder, but that's why there are manslaughter laws. In any case, I would think this would be the DA's call, not the police chief's.

52 posted on 12/13/2007 9:01:36 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Primary
Certified school records from a public or private primary, secondary or post secondary accredited educational institution located in a state or territory of the U.S.

Secondary
Utility, telephone bill or cable/satellite TV bill*
Checking or savings account statement

53 posted on 12/13/2007 9:14:48 AM PST by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: raybbr

“The Laurel Police chief said if Ramirez had stopped at the scene, he would not have been charged.”

I noticed that too. Why wouldnt he have been charged if he remained on the scene??? Was the pedestrian at fault?


54 posted on 12/13/2007 9:20:58 AM PST by TEXOKIE (Wear Red on Fridays to support the troops!!)
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To: RDTF
"How do you get a license if you are an illegal alien?"

The same way you get to stay in the country if you are an illegal alien. A government run by people who put the interest of American citizens behind those of foreign governments, drug dealers, immigrant smugglers, etc.

55 posted on 12/13/2007 9:26:33 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: Brian C. Ledbetter
Maryland is an open door to illegal immigrants, particularly in the Communist-leaning eastern half of the State. And believe me, we here in Fairfax County are definitely suffering as a result.

Better look at your map again and check the election results of the EASTERN part of Maryland. Looks like the People's Republic supporters are well west of us.

56 posted on 12/13/2007 9:39:00 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: Abby4116
LOL, I guess I neglected to consider that Maryland exists east of Annapolis. I will thusly narrow my Red-baiting to those Counties that border Virginia and the District, and toss in Annapolis for the heck of it.

No insult was intended towards the kind, Conservative people on the Other Side of the Chesapeake, of course. :)

B.

57 posted on 12/13/2007 10:00:26 AM PST by Brian C. Ledbetter
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To: sickoflibs; relee; All

Good answers, all ... Thank you.


58 posted on 12/13/2007 12:17:24 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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ping


59 posted on 12/13/2007 12:43:03 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: RDTF; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


60 posted on 12/13/2007 5:40:23 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two -- the 16th and 17th Amendments! Sink LOST!)
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