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Conventionally Ignorant ... (The same old simplicities about Iraq)
National Review ^ | December 14, 2007 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 12/14/2007 5:49:39 AM PST by IrishMike

Washington is an echo chamber. One pundit, one senator, one reporter proclaim a snazzy “truth” and almost immediately it reverberates as gospel. Conventional wisdom about Iraq is rarely questioned. A notion seems to find validity not on its logic or through empirical evidence, but simply by the degree to which it is repeated and felt to resonate.

Take the following often repeated statements.

“There is no military solution to Iraq.” Well, obviously it is true in the sense that in this postmodern age we were not going to see another Curtis LeMay flatten a Fallujah or Ramadi.

But the miraculous political achievement of postwar Japan or Europe was the dividend of a military solution: the destruction of wartime fascism and the prevention of its reemergence by vigilant military policing.

Likewise, there will only be peace in a constitutional Iraq when citizens believe that they can safely participate in government, express themselves somewhat freely, prosper economically, and feel safe from internal and external threats.

In order to do this, an army and a national police force that purports to prevent thugs, militias, and terrorists from killing those with whom they disagree, is required. In war-torn Iraq, such forces will only emerge as confident and capable when they know that the U.S. is stronger than their enemies and can offer them a window of security to train and strengthen.

So a political solution is only possible if there is security — and security is only likely if someone first kills, defeats, or routs the enemy.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; congress; democrats; elections; iraq; liberals; msm; vdh; victordavishanson; wot

1 posted on 12/14/2007 5:49:41 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike
the destruction of wartime fascism and the prevention of its reemergence by vigilant military policing.

There you have the reason for today's Democrats refusal to wage war against the enemy....they're fascist brothers!

2 posted on 12/14/2007 5:55:51 AM PST by Loud Mime (Hell on Earth: Clinton here, Putin there)
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To: IrishMike

Why would flattening parts of Mecca and Qom be bad again?


3 posted on 12/14/2007 5:57:24 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Loud Mime

And here I thought it was the whole “We’re not worthy, all other cultures are more deserving, we need to submit to them” mentality....


4 posted on 12/14/2007 5:58:56 AM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: IrishMike
"...and feel safe from internal and external threats.

...we're talking Muslims here right?. What they "feel" really depends on what they are told to do, and by who... If the Teddy Bear suddenly spoke and told them to load up on IED's and go sit next to a reindeer and wait for a big guy in a red suit who's on a PC diet to show up....they'd do it

5 posted on 12/14/2007 6:03:20 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Tolik

VDH Ping


6 posted on 12/14/2007 6:40:23 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: IrishMike

I continue to replay a quick scene that was broadcast from Iraq, immediately after the fall of Baghdad. An embedded reporter and his video team were trying to get reactions from some of the local citizens; many quite wary of the advancing forces, obviously. One wizzened old guy was quite emotional when he asked of the reporter, “But, who will rule us, now?” A very telling scene, and one that continues even now, I’d suspect.

Unless and until these people can feel that their continued lives are more attractive than the call of death, there will never be peace in this part of the world.


7 posted on 12/14/2007 8:54:41 AM PST by PubliusMM (Just doin' my best to stay free and secure. God Bless our military personnel.)
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To: IrishMike; rightinthemiddle; neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; SJackson; dennisw; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out.

Links:    FR Index of his articles:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=victordavishanson
                His website: http://victorhanson.com/
                NRO archive: http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson-archive.asp
                Pajamasmedia:
   http://victordavishanson.pajamasmedia.com/

8 posted on 12/14/2007 11:24:02 AM PST by Tolik
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To: IrishMike

From what I have been reading lately, it seems safer to walk the streets of Iraq than some cities here in the U.S.


9 posted on 12/14/2007 12:55:46 PM PST by wizr ("Right now, the burden is all on the American soldiers. Right now, Hope Rides Alone." Sgt. E Jeffer)
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To: IrishMike

I bet Donald Rumsfeld and Victor Davis Hanson have some interesting conversations at the Hoover Institution.


10 posted on 12/14/2007 5:28:29 PM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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