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History Channel 2 Hour Documentary Premier: The True Story of Charlie Wilson
History Channel et. al. ^ | December 22, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 12/21/2007 7:32:45 PM PST by flattorney

Produced by Wild Eyes Prods. Executive producers, Carl H. Lindahl, David Keane; producers, Ryan Spyker, Aaron Cowden; director, Keane; writers, Bowden, Terrence Henry. Narrator: Bill Lloyd. Editor, Justin Inda; music, Michael Plowman. Running time: 120 Min.

“Charlie Wilson’s War” (Wide Release Theater Movie)
Genres: Comedy, Drama, Adaptation, Biopic and War
Running Time: 1 hr. 37 min.
Release Date: December 21st, 2007
MPAA Rating: R for strong language, nudity/sexual content and some drug use.
Distributors: Universal Pictures Distribution
Production Co.: Icarus Productions, Participant Productions, Relativity Media, Playtone
Studios: Universal Pictures
Filming Locations: Morocco
Los Angeles, California USA
Produced in: United States
- - Based on the true story of how Charlie Wilson, an alcoholic womanizer and Texas congressman, persuaded the CIA to train and arm resistance fighters in Afghanistan to fend off the Soviet Union. With the help of rogue CIA agent, Gust Avrakotos, the two men supplied money, training and a team of military experts that turned the ill-equipped Afghan freedom-fighters into a force that brought the Red Army to a stalemate and set the stage for conflicts in the Middle East that still rage to this day.
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Book: Charlie Wilson's War:
The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History
Hardcover: 416 pages
Publisher: Atlantic Monthly Press (April 2003)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0871138549
ISBN-13: 978-0871138545
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PaperBack – 550 pages
Publisher: Grove/Atlantic, Inc.
Pub. Date: April 2004
ISBN-13: 9780802141248

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas; War on Terror
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In going through my notes and emails I located the original source for this previous post. It’s TexasLawyer.typepad.com - FlA

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Dick DeGuerin goes Hollywood
December 14, 2007

As the paparazzi lined up along the red carpet to snap photos of celebrities for the Dec. 10 premiere of the film “Charlie Wilson’s War” — the true account of a Texas congressman’s efforts to help fund a Cold War defeat of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan — they had the chance to shoot the movie’s stars, including Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts and Dick DeGuerin. Wait a minute. DeGuerin? As it turns out, the Houston criminal-defense lawyer played a behind-the-scenes role in the making of the movie, which opens Dec. 21. The film recently was nominated for five Golden Globes, including Best Picture (Comedy/Musical), Best Actor, Best Supporting Actress, Best Supporting Actor and Best Screenplay.

DeGuerin was the guest of Joanne King Herring, a Houston socialite who Roberts portrays, at the premiere of the movie at the Universal Studio AMC Theater in Hollywood. “Joanne King was and is my client and friend,” says DeGuerin, a partner in DeGuerin Dickson & Hennessy. “She’s the one who really got Charlie Wilson to do what he did.”

King was an honorary consul to Pakistan in the 1980s. She convinced Wilson, then a member of the House Appropriations Committee, to help funnel money to the Afghan mujahedeen, the resistance fighters who eventually drove the Soviets out of their country. Pakistan played a role in the conflict in the 1980s, because the country served as a refuge for thousands of Afghans who fled their homeland during the Soviet occupation. Pakistan urged the United States to become involved in the war. Wilson’s story made for a popular 2003 book “Charlie Wilson’s War” and the new movie of the same name.

But when Herring was leaked a copy of the movie script, she was not happy, DeGuerin says. “They had written a script that had her cussing like a sailor and doing things that she never did. She got me to threaten the producers with a lawsuit if they didn’t change it. And they did,” DeGuerin says. DeGuerin ended up sitting next to Herring at the premiere and met Hanks, who plays Wilson — proof that everyone was “very happy” after the resolution of the script conflict, he says. -- John Council

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Email rec’d, don’t know original source. FYI, Dick is a Texas “yellow dog” Democrat and Tom DeLay’s attorney in the Ronnie Earle – Soros Shadow Party Texas hit job – fla

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121 posted on 12/23/2007 9:28:43 AM PST by flattorney (See my comprehensive FR Profile "Straight Talk" Page)
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To: Ditter

Care for some gopher?


122 posted on 12/23/2007 9:57:31 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

I happen to love gopher, roasted over and open fire on a stick and eaten while sitting on the ground! Anyone who doesn’t is dumb as a sack of hammers! ;9)


123 posted on 12/23/2007 10:01:14 AM PST by Ditter
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To: VOA
The reason I know this is bullsheite is how could Charlie Wilson be the cause of training the Mujahadeeneie's if it's Reagan's fault that Osama was trained and equipped to kill us on 9/11? They have to choose, either Wilson is a hero, or Reagan is a dunce. For years now I've been taught that Osama is Reagan's creation, now I'm supposed to believe a drunk congressman from a hot tub singlehandedly beat the Russians?

I'm so confused.

124 posted on 12/23/2007 10:18:23 AM PST by chuckles
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To: discostu
What’s the dateline on that Time article? From greenlight to release on most movies is about two years, so nothing in response to Nancy’s “request” since becoming speaker would be released yet, that would be 2008 early 2009 at the earliest. Hopefully CWW will at least do better than the others and Hollywood might decide that makes it worth taking another chance, a lot will depend on how expensive it was to make too, $30 million budget movies are easier to be profitable than $100 million budget, if it’s closer to the former then it could still hit the black.

Time articles were published Dec 06, 2007 and Dec 24, 2007. No, the anti-war movies were produced very quickly this year on extremely low budgets, even Lions for Lambs, ($10-32 million production costs with lots of contributed “points” players), and were backed by the Democrats-Soros Shadow Party per the “Pelosi Nov 2006 Directive” - which I/we know for a fact. Look at the release dates of the liberal hack-job movies below – they tell the election year cycle story.

Charlie Wilson’s War was also produced very quickly this year on an extremely low budget. It’s initial interest and ticket sales are being greatly hurt by being released behind the below movies. And remember CWW was going to be another Soros Shadow Party hit job movie before several GOP PAC’s did something about it in a major kicked some arse win. The steam is building on CWW and it’s future appears good at this juncture. However, the Dems-SSP maggots are now writing bad reviews on the movie, bagging the MSM public opinions polls, and hitting the major movie sites’ user rating polls. - FlA

Total Worldwide Box Office Revenue
In the Valley of Elah: $12,851,486 , Released: 09.14.07 (BOM Rating: C)
Rendition: $17,055,746, Released 10.19.07 (BOM Rating: C)
Lions for Lambs: $47,111,450, Released 11.09.07 (BOM Rating: D)
- - Starring: Robert Redford, Meryl Streep, Tom Cruise, and Michael Peña
Redacted: $220,307, Released 11.16.07 (BOM Rating: F)

125 posted on 12/23/2007 10:19:03 AM PST by flattorney (See my comprehensive FR Profile "Straight Talk" Page)
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To: Ann Archy

SOOOOOO, we have Charlie Wilson and a ROGUE CIA to blame for arming Osama Bin Laden???.....Good Lord, no. All I’ve ever heard was it Reagan who backed the Talibunnies and thus caused 9/11 and if the Democrats were in power, 9/11 never would have happened because we would have put sanctions on the Russians for invading Afghanistan and that would have made everything alright. I NEVER heard it was the Dems up to their hips in this and Murtha funded it. Who knew?


126 posted on 12/23/2007 10:36:11 AM PST by Safetgiver (So simple, even a Muslim can do it.)
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To: discostu

We lost Vietnam, we lost it because we never wanted to win it, ...Oh, horseshit. Who is the collective WE?


127 posted on 12/23/2007 10:43:05 AM PST by Safetgiver (So simple, even a Muslim can do it.)
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To: flattorney

bump


128 posted on 12/23/2007 10:44:44 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: chuckles
I'm so confused.

Join the club.
Having grown up in the time when The Democratic Party morphed from
the "liberal" (in what was a good sense) party into the
"Blame American First And All Sodomy, All The Time" party, it does
blow one's mind to find someone with "(D)" after their name had a mission
"to kill Russians/Soviets".

If Reagan "created" Osama, Charlie Wilson sure helped out a bit.
And even if that case could be made, both did so inadvertently.

But you do occssionally hear someone call themselves "A Harry Truman"
or "A Scoop Jackson" type of Democrat.
I'm too polite to reply "just cut the crap...you're a Republican!".
As for Charlie Wilson, the only real home he could have in the
Democratic Party today would be in The Kennedy Boozing And Womanizing
compound.


Another thing about Democrats and national defense...
When Gulf War I was getting underway, I REALLY held my breath
praying that our "smart weapons" would actually work in combat,
seeing how a number of them really got rolling during the Carter Admin.
It blows my mind that Carter didn't kill the "smart weapons" program
and that Herbert Brown as Sec. Defense did a respectable job
of sheparding the program.
129 posted on 12/23/2007 10:50:34 AM PST by VOA
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To: chuckles; RetiredArmy; Safetgiver

As it relates to the Middle East, in which I have substantial and detailed knowledge, my favorite saying is “Foundations do not last very long when you build them on quicksand” i.e. the whole M.E. region has been highly unstable since before the birth of Christ. Further, our political leaders continuing to ignore the Middle East Polarization Doctrine will continue to lead to very grave consequences for our great Country. However, President Ronald Reagan had to stop the Soviets continued build-up in the Middle East, which meant doing something about their massive slaughter in Afghanistan to take control of it, even though the candyass U.S. Congress wanted to sit on their hands and do nothing. But, we left a vacuum when we pulled out of Afghanistan. We left it for the taking, which ended up being by terrorists, which frankly was of no “mission accomplished” (against the commie bastards) surprise. - FlA


130 posted on 12/23/2007 10:52:39 AM PST by flattorney (See my comprehensive FR Profile "Straight Talk" Page)
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To: Safetgiver

That would be the people that were in charge, and the press. More than enough we to make sure the war would get lost.


131 posted on 12/23/2007 11:09:40 AM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: flattorney

That could be one thing that hurt them. Hollywood’s not good at making movies fast anymore, it’ll show on the screen.

I don’t think they tell and election year cycle, 2008 is the election, 2007 is the part of the election cycle when people that are over addicted to politics are paying attention, but most everybody else doesn’t give a damn. If you want to release a movie to change an election you do it October of 2008 not 2007.


132 posted on 12/23/2007 11:17:36 AM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: flattorney
Charlie Wilson was my congressman. He was "owned" by Temple-Inland.

He was also known as "Coke Charlie" --often had "white powder" on his nose! I couldn't stand the jerk!

We have a good congressman now--Kevin Brady (R).

133 posted on 12/23/2007 11:24:19 AM PST by lonestar
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To: flattorney

The bottom three people are not beauties at all!


134 posted on 12/23/2007 11:52:25 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: discostu
They play it liberal because of who they are, they din't even try to play it straight, apparently, until they were forced into it - by real participants and, possibly or likely, by beancounters...

Even in the History Channel, which I usually like a lot (I learned a lot more about "true" "da Vinci Code" and its fallacies from several THC documentaries way before I saw the movie, and of course was not looking forward to see the movie and, not expecting much, was not "disappointed" when I finally saw it, but I loved the original "National Treasure" - hence my preference for follow up which may or may not disappoint me when I finally see it on cable), the story of Charlie's War was told by... Charlie Wilson and ... Aaron Sorkin, who at the end of the program couldn't help but bring the subject of our culpability in 9/11, then just a bit later backing off saying that it really was fault of the "crazies" - duh! thanks for being so subtle, Aaron... Reagan was only mentioned once in the documentary along with now-familiar "unilaterally decided" (though at least not in a derogatory sense).

Also, I found the commercials for "Charlie's War" very condescending and trying to pull one over on me - to me they practically screamed "come, have a jolly good time with Good Time Charlie and see who really beat the Russians in Afghanistan and ended the cold war - a boozing, womanizing liberal southern Democrat - it's not who you thought it were all this time, and if it were not for us, Hollywood people, you'd never know and stay ignorant". Apparently, I was not alone in that feeling, based strictly on commercials alone.

Frankly, I don't think that if this movie is a commercial success (with all the final editing to make it commercially viable - i.e., appeal to a "wider" audience - instead of subtle propaganda) that it means Hollywood immediately starts putting "good war" movies - this one will only serve to immunize them from all the crap they have been putting out. And I don't particularly want phony Hollywood pro-America "Rambo"-type movies, I just don't want to deal with and subsidize all the crappy anti-America "war" movies... The commercials for "Lions for Lambs" would not even mention the word Iraq, trying to sell it as a mystery or crime drama.

So, if it bombs, may be (though not much hope there) it will force them to think why it bombed, just as they already figured out why anti-America movies (not just "anti-Iraq" movies or TV series) are bombing in BO. If they are capable of rethinking that, not just look at us as their cash cows or dogs that they need to throw a bone once in a while to "finance" next round of their propaganda, e.g. like Oliver Stone's World Trade Center which got great reviews because it was unexpected from that source (I did not find it all that great), they'll be doing much better in domestic sales and as an industry, in general. If they just try to satisfy their ever-shrinking market, only by looking to expand it internationally, they'll keep finding less and less success.

BTW, I do separate profession of acting and actors from their political views, when it comes to judging their work. I find that Tom Hanks is very talented actor and enjoy a lot of his movies, new and old. Julia Roberts, while excellent in Pretty Woman which gave her a star status, is easily replaceable in just about any other movie I have seen her. In general, in Hollywood, the "stars" are [again] just a BO draw and have really no relationship to the quality of the movie anymore. So, that means I don't do much for Hollywood, but Hollywood has not been doing much for me for a long time.

135 posted on 12/23/2007 12:08:33 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: flattorney
WOW! I always though the Reagan Administration was responsible for defeating the Soviets in Afghanistan. Now I find out a Democrat congressman did it all by himself. I am disappointed.
136 posted on 12/23/2007 12:21:10 PM PST by kempo (I)
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To: TLI
After 40 years here on Maui, I’ve met a lot of rowdy, heavy drinking Texans but the Alaskans out do them on all accounts. They also know how to spend money.
137 posted on 12/23/2007 12:31:25 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: lonestar
Charlie Wilson was my congressman. He was "owned" by Temple-Inland.

He was also known as "Coke Charlie" --often had "white powder" on his nose! I couldn't stand the jerk!

We have a good congressman now--Kevin Brady (R).

He was my congressman as well and I concur with everything you said. I spend years trying to defeat the guy, even came VERY close to running against him myself in 1994, but if even half of what this movie portrays about him is true we owe him a debt of gratitude for his efforts in ths ONE area.

138 posted on 12/23/2007 12:33:28 PM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: flattorney

Grosses came out today. I was off on my estimates, the movie did a “robust” $9.6 Million. A bomb considering the Stars and budget. It’s downhill from there.


139 posted on 12/23/2007 8:11:17 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: discostu
It was the theme. People want a comedy or pure escapism. This movie was neither and that is why it bombed at this time of the year.
140 posted on 12/23/2007 8:13:17 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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