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If there's no FRed and no Hunter and we're left with the four headless RINOs, then what?
January 10, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson

The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?

Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.

Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.

Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.

Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.

Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.

Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.

So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.

Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.

Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!


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To: NeoCaveman; xsmommy

Jim makes sense.....now THAT doesn’t surprise me in the least.

The “four headless RINOs”..........ROTFLMAO!!


101 posted on 01/10/2008 4:07:51 PM PST by tioga
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To: Stunned

Rudy announced his tax plan yesterday. It’s impressive.

McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts.

McCain wants to close Guantanamo.

Rudy would expand it.

McCain is for a global warming tax.

Yes, I would vote for McCain over any Democrat, but there would be vomit on my ballot.


102 posted on 01/10/2008 4:08:19 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: SolidWood

“It would be bleak. McCain/Huckabee could work”

The McCain/Huckabee amnesty express would only ‘work’ if you are an illegal alien waiting to become a citizen.
If you are a conservative, you are screwed.


103 posted on 01/10/2008 4:08:22 PM PST by WOSG (McCain/Huckabee - The RINO-nannystate-amnesty-envirowacko ticket)
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To: colorado tanker

A McInsane/Huckster nomination scares me to death. It will kill the Republican Party as we know it now.


104 posted on 01/10/2008 4:08:30 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent analysis.

But sadly, pretty thin gruel.


105 posted on 01/10/2008 4:08:32 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Vote "Tax Hike Mike!" < / sarc>)
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To: nicmarlo

You have got to see this thread. It will blow your mind.


106 posted on 01/10/2008 4:09:02 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: mamelukesabre

>I’ll tell you what. We cling to rush and FR every day for the next 4 years to help get us through the madness.<

I’ve been doing something like that for years now!


107 posted on 01/10/2008 4:09:26 PM PST by Califreak (Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary! Subvert the party comrades!)
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To: Bobbisox

“Romney even looks better to me than McCain. “

Romney/Thompson is the way to go.

Either name on top or bottom.


108 posted on 01/10/2008 4:09:31 PM PST by WOSG (McCain/Huckabee - The RINO-nannystate-amnesty-envirowacko ticket)
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To: Jim Robinson

The saddest thing is that I can’t argue with the liberals I work with.

Nobody is fired up as the MSM is picking the candidates for us.


109 posted on 01/10/2008 4:09:51 PM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: Jim Robinson; processing please hold
leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.

Plan B: then I write in Duncan Hunter, as I won't vote for a Rat with lipstick on an "R" ticket any more than I would want a wolf in sheep's clothing "guarding" my children.

110 posted on 01/10/2008 4:10:15 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Jim Robinson
Revalations, 6th chapter comes to mind:

2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. (McCain)

3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. (Romney)

5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. (Giuliani)

6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. 7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. (Huckabee)

111 posted on 01/10/2008 4:10:27 PM PST by jonrick46
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If we nominate someone who can't win, then what's the point of picking the most ideologically pure candidate?

The party is more than just one man. The party is the collection of judges to pick from, the bureaucrats that will be chosen to run departments, on and on. An "Administration" consists of thousands of people.

A Republican president will pick from Republican candidates for those jobs. A Dem the opposite.

Obviously priority no. 1 is to pick a winner for November. Anything else is Losertarian strategy.

112 posted on 01/10/2008 4:10:49 PM PST by Captain Pike
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To: The Wizard; jdm
Don't fear Rudy, he's the Man...

Uh......


113 posted on 01/10/2008 4:10:56 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: jdm

Yikes! thats the worst pic yet!


114 posted on 01/10/2008 4:10:56 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Jim Robinson

First of all Jim, thank you for all you do.

My only concern is who can beat Hill or the big O, as having a Dem in the White House is the greatest evil to me.

I think Rudy, Romney, Thompson could beat either one in that order, with Rudy having the best chance. My personal choice is Thompson, but with many reservations and I don’t think he can win.

Aside from your four issues, my biggest issue is a constitutionalist judge in the Supreme Court. Rudy has said he would nominate a judge that would be a constitutionalist. Rudy is a leader. Probably more so than any of the other candidates. I think may people on both sides have the confidence in him to finish the war in our favor and that’s what everyone wants, both D and R, to win and get out.

I really want to vote for Thompson because his issue stances are mine. However I want a Republican to win more than I want to vote for someone who, so far in this campain, hasn’t shown to be a leader. I am also concerned with his lack of experience at running anything.

And I am going to vote. No matter who gets the Republican nomination, I don’t want anyone else picking a President for me. I am hoping that those Republicans who say they won’t vote this election will have a change of heart once it gets right down to two. No matter what, ALL the Republican candidates would be better than Hillary or O.


115 posted on 01/10/2008 4:11:29 PM PST by nicolezmomma
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To: Jim Robinson

Now how is that when I go to the voting booth on Feb 5th... do I ask for a Demopublican ballot? Somehow I get this feeling I am going to feel very dirty in November when I have to put that ballot in the box with a RINO’s name on it as my selection.


116 posted on 01/10/2008 4:11:32 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well Jim, I guess we work hard to ensure we keep the seats in Congress, and even try to take back the majorities, so that whoever is elected, we are going to have to hold them back on legislation. None of the 4 will will prevent socialism from dominating our country, nor will the more likely scenario, a dem being elected. We will NEED Congress.

I still pray it won’t come to your worst case :)

117 posted on 01/10/2008 4:11:35 PM PST by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Jim Robinson

118 posted on 01/10/2008 4:11:40 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: no dems
Makes sense; and then we organize the Conservative Party of America.

Why? If you couldn't get the votes in the Republican Party, then why form a new one which will get even less votes?

Here's a suggestion. Why didn't you guys just support Duncan Hunter from the get-go? You got a true-blue conservative sitting right in front of you, dude started running in October of 2006. But nooo....he was "unelectable!" Well, Paul's a Congresscritter too and he got money and grassroots support yeah yeah can the Soros jokes, OK? So why didn't conservatives do the same thing for Hunter?

This Forum is panicking. Fred Thompson's internals must not be looking good in SC since Huckster is going to dig into his SC support. Romney is gradually losing steam. If McCain or Huckster is nominated, you might as well stick a fork in the GOP because there's no way in Hell I'm supporting either one of these two jokers.

119 posted on 01/10/2008 4:12:22 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Seahawks should have went South for the winter - instead they're coming to Lambeau!)
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To: processing please hold

foflol! great minds or what? I just pinged you to my post. : )


120 posted on 01/10/2008 4:12:52 PM PST by nicmarlo
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