Posted on 01/19/2008 7:54:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback
In the stuffy world of politics, the Ron Paul campaign has earned the reputation of being something like a raucous, freedom-loving party. A raucous, freedom-loving party with lots of paranoid bigots. So it would probably be more surprising if the band reportedly headlining RonPaulapalooza didn't have a few teeny-tiny problems with the Jews, who they feel are trying to destroy everybody. The band Poker Face enjoys churning out a hard-chargin' "freedom rock" that they developed under the influence of Boston, the Beatles, and Frank Zappa, as well as a firm conviction that the Holocaust did not happen and that the Jews are in fact the lead agents of a "Satanic World Order."
And according to a notice sent out by RonPaulaplooza organizers, you can get yourself a taste when Poker Face (along with some "lesser-known bands") rocks the big event, now tentatively scheduled for the Fourth of July holiday weekend in Morehead, Kentucky. As of post time, organizers had not responded to Radar's anxious inquiries about the possible co-appearance of a sassy little slice of pizza known to sling some fairly dope rhymes about the Ron Paul revolution.
“Hmmm...but that doesn’t mean it’s not true, does it? Radar also has stories about Huckabee’s South Carolina appearances in the top stories list, and CNN, Fox News, ABC Radio and my local newspaper all run stories about both Huckabee and Lindsay Lohan. Strike one!”
It’s a dumb tabloid/blog. You posted an article that claims something that isn’t written about anywhere else on the interweb, and fails to mention it’s not involved with the campaign.
Strike 1 for you!
“Radar says they received a notice. If they did not do so and they publlish a retraction, I will ask the mods to pull this thread. If the mods don’t pull it, I will post an notice of the retraction to everyone who posted to this thread.”
Produce the notice. The preponderance of proof is on the asserter. Not the defender. Since when does it matter if a website with 7 readers posts a retraction? They just move on to the next tabloid article.
Strike 2 for you!
I did find one blog where they mentioned the band was “signed” for the concert but that they didn’t have enough money to pay the deposit for the campground!
So, as of now, there is no concert.
Major strike 3 for you!
“Right the Paul campaign has nothing to do with this...”
If they do, PROVE IT. The FEC will come down on all of them like a ton of bricks.
It’s much easier to smear than support your idiotic false claims though. SO you’re going to just keep it up. Figures.
The Paul-Haters are the real Paultards. The name Ron Paul makes you act like a total retard, foaming at the mouth and having a fit.
Strike 4 for you!
“or with Don Black’s donation...”
I guess you’d rather he give the money back to Black - then when black did something else dumb, Paul can be attacked for helping fund Black’s activities. You guys are so slick! Paul is using that losers money for good, and totally repudiated him and other people like him who sent him money, mistakenly. The fault isn’t Paul’s - it’s Don Black’s problem for being so dumb he doesn’t understand Paul’s message isn’t for him.
Strike 5 for you!!!!!
“or with racist newsletters (the guy’s qaulified to be commander in chief, but he can’t read a newsletter he published for five years)...”
Cite the so-caalled racist quotes? To the TNR idiot who wrote the article, attacking the welfare state for causing the conditions that led to the LA riots is “racist.” And Paul must be some kinda militia whacko for defending the 2nd amendment.
Strike 6!
You have 2x the strikes as you claimed I did, on the same amount of information.
“the guy’s qaulified to be commander in chief, but he can’t read a newsletter he published for five years)...or with any of these. Strike three!”
and
“Their money does, and so does money raised at Stormfront.”
Fred Thompson represented Aristide for free. For free! 2 weeks after he advocated putting a gas soaked car tire over people heads and lighting them on fire - and went on to talk about how nice that smelled. When asked about the content of his call with John Sununu to lobby for Aristide the marxist dictator/murderer, he said he “can’t recall.” Just what we need, another clinton!
You defended the TNR article - that’s all pinned on you now. Live with it.
Strikes 7 and 8!
“I and almost every other person on FR who opposes Paul talked issues from the beginning, particularly about the war that Dr. Paul would like to lose in Iraq.”
Another lie - strike 9! you’re on a roll.
“We were smeared as haters of the Constitution because we wanted to kill Al Qaidaa there, and just a coupple of days ago I was accused of being on the payroll of the Giuliani campaign since early last year even though I have never posted anything in support of him, and much that attacks him.”
I can’t figure out what you are babbling about here so you get the benefit of the doubt.
“Yeah, keep thinking it was because we couldn’t defend ourselves against the great minds that back Run Paul. [CHORTLE!]”
That’s what’s so funny.
You can’t, and you’re blind to it.
Yeah...that's the only choice open to me as a voter, either praise every thing George Bush does or back the Truther/Nazi/Code Pink candidate. Wow, I never realized it before...
In the immortal words of Frank Zappa:
“What’s the ugliest part of your body?
Some say your nose, some say your toes, but I think its your mind.”
Same old, same old.
>> Fourth of July holiday weekend in Morehead, Kentucky
Why in the world would ElRon schedule an event in Kentucky in July?
By then, he’ll LONG be out of the POTUS race, and he’ll be fighting for his life to get re-elected to his seat in Congress... right here in Texas.
(And I’ll be working enthusiastically to stop him.)
This has gone beyond the pale.
I cannot believe that I am seeing conservatives bashing and trashing a candidate whose platform consists of basic conservative values. We all don’t agree with “all” of his platform, but we agree with a good percentage of the values he is bringing to the forefront.
Gee, I wonder who these kooks and nuts voted for before Ron Paul. You can safely bet that they were not voting for a Democrat. OMG, they might have voted for your candidate!
All of these “hit pieces” are coming from “kooky” left fringe sources. Doesn’t that tell you something?
Truth be told, I don’t believe Ron Paul really believes he can become the President of the United States; but he is bringing a lot of good conservative issues to the forefront, that sadly, some of the frontrunners are ignoring. I ask you, what is wrong with that?
It appears to me that many are buying into the left wing’s campaign to suppress the Conservative issues that Ron Paul is talking about.
That said, there must be posters over at KOS and DU laughing their butts off at some of the hippocrites on these and the rest of the Ron Paul threads.
I no not support any candidate at the moment, but can’t we have a reasonable debate about issues, instead of who’s supporting who?
You know what's really cute? No matter how many Nazis and Troofers back your guy, I can't recall anyone who opposes Paul saying that your support of Paul means you're Nazis. And yet, if someone cites a liberal attack on Paul (or even just criticizes him on their own) you guys accuse them of being leftists, or on the Giuliani payroll, or whatever. And then...here's the best part...you screech about "guilt by association."
As for where I stand, I'm a professional writer, and I know what it takes to put out a publication like a magazine or a newsletter. Anyone who says they published a newsletter for five years under their name without "micromanaging it" (i.e., reading the bloody thing) is either lying or stupid. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say "stupid."
Good to know where you stand. With Bill Clinton, for gun control like Bush, and for abortion.
Ah, now I see the great intellectual prowess that caused you to become a Paul supporter.
Your logic is astounding.
Since that’s all you could respond to, you inherently yielded to the rest of the points.
Time to ask the admin mod to pull the thread.
That's good, because it will save me from cutting, pasting and editing post 25 everytime somebody finds another Nazi backing Paul.
Maybe he'll win after all, and we'll be treated to the spectacle of Troofers and skinheads marching into the Ovaal Office to get what they're owed.
I am amazed how many of those in FR think they able to decide who should be in the Party and who shouldn't.
Which is why folks running a Paul fundraiser are sending out announcements that a Nazi band will be headlining...because Paul was so forceful about it...
You know deep down these groups aren't representative of Paul's support as a whole. They're only highlighted because Paul is up against powerful interests who have to portray Paul as a kook because they can't fight Paul on the facts or his record.
Over 150,000 people donated to Paul in the 4Q last year. Surely all of these folks aren't white supremacists, Code Pinkers, 9/11 conspiracy nuts etc., right? If you believe they are, then we might as well end this aspect of the discussion, because there's no use going back and forth on this and no minds are going to get changed anyway.
Paul has a lot of support from Main Street America. You and the GOP ignore these new and previously apathetic voters at your own peril.
Whatever. Enjoy your feeble-minded opinions.
“You know what’s really cute? No matter how many Nazis and Troofers back your guy, I can’t recall anyone who opposes Paul saying that your support of Paul means you’re Nazis.”
I didn’t say that either, meaning you set up a red herring and then attacked me over it. Pretty slick there!
“And yet, if someone cites a liberal attack on Paul (or even just criticizes him on their own) you guys accuse them of being leftists”
Right, because YOU cited the TNR article as a valid attack - meaning you implicitly agree with the attack.
“you guys accuse them of being leftists, or on the Giuliani payroll,”
Who are ‘my guys?’ I’m only responsible for my own words - again the guilt by association thing based on a red herring.
“or whatever. And then...here’s the best part...you screech about “guilt by association.””
You just did it - in the same paragraph,
You were thumped again. Badly.
“As for where I stand, I’m a professional writer, and I know what it takes to put out a publication like a magazine or a newsletter. Anyone who says they published a newsletter for five years under their name without “micromanaging it” (i.e., reading the bloody thing) is either lying or stupid. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say “stupid.””
A professional writer?
Based on your writing on this thread, I urge your employer to get a refund.
Did you write the article you posted, yourself? Are you Nick Curran?
“Ah, now I see the great intellectual prowess that caused you to become a Paul supporter.”
Look - YOU defended the TNR article’s assertations. THat means you implicitly agree with the left-wing attack.
“Your logic is astounding.”
Great rebuttal!
Now try to explain why I’m wrong or crawl back under your trollbridge.
If the newsletters were much ado about nothing, why are Paul supporters wrestling with it in the same way that Dave Bonior had to wrestle with the Monica mess? Example here.
And are you really supporting a guy for leader of the Free World who couldn't manage a newsletter properly?
Wanna talk about Bush Klan /Hitler connections then. Hey why not since it’s on the web. People have said that the Bush’s supported and even did business with Hilter up till the start of the war. I’m certain it’s true I saw it on line.
You were one of the folks backing Paul in the “Stormfront photo op thread.” I pinged some people from both sides who posted in it. Apologies if that was impolite.
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