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Where does a Conservative go?(Vanity)
My feckless brain ^ | Me

Posted on 01/20/2008 1:18:25 AM PST by TexasMatty

As a Conservative I am lost. I will not, under any circumstances vote for John Mclame. He has sold Conservatives out. Nor will I vote for Jesus' favorite candidate Schmuckabee. I believe the most Conservative candidate is Thompson and can't help but wonder who is voting in these things. If Mclame or Schmuckabee is the nominee I can't vote. It will pain me deeply to not vote, but either of those clowns are no different from the lefty. Me question to my FRiends is.. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO??? The situation seems rather desperate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: desperate; desperatehousecons; desperation; sc2008; voteforpaul
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To: TexasMatty

I will hold my nose and vote for the nominee because to do otherwise is, objectively, a vote for marxism, abortion and anti americanism.

Yes, I know, but if nothing else...”it’s the Judges” which will far outlast any term of any of the candidates now running.


161 posted on 01/20/2008 5:20:54 AM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: samtheman
You are not very observant or you did not watch all the media clips and debates. I've studied all the national channels..papers and seen all the debates. They blocked the view of the candidates that they didn’t want and left their names out in print everywhere. (This is happening in both of the parties by the way)

The media started this with Fred and Hunter from day one. The people have to see and get to know the candidates in order to vote for them. This is the way they control our elections.

162 posted on 01/20/2008 5:23:07 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: Earthdweller

-————Hillary is at the top of the ticket...we have to defeat the commie moles.—————

You don’t beat liberals by electing liberals. I’m sorry, that just doesn’t make logical sense.

-—————Are you aware of what this all means before you vote Dem?——————

Yes. I’m aware.

McCain will pass many of the same kinds of things that they would pass. And even though most americans have been talked into believing these kinds of things, the results will force them to revolt. If anybody(like McCain) is allowed to be the one passing such laws, that’s the end of conservatism as we know it because the media will make sure to run it into the ground that it was a conservative who forced global warming legislation down our throats and killed us.

If we’re going to be destroyed, I want a clearly known liberal to do it. Hillary. Obama. Edwards.

McCain isn’t our guy. But we can’t beat the media yet.

Yes, I know what I’m doing.


163 posted on 01/20/2008 5:26:23 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: Earthdweller

The media is bad, I’ll grant you that, but they don’t have the power to keep a Ronald Reagan (for example) down.

Fred did it to himself with his very bad decision (which I supported at the time) to do things his own way on his own timetable.

Turns out, Fred, when you’re dealing with a group activity, such as an election, it’s the group who makes the rules.

If we blame Fred’s defeat on the media, we are doing what the RATS do when they don’t get their way: crying like babies.

Fred screwed up. Face it like the men and women we are. I’m sure Fred is.

I continue to support Fred and urge him to go all the way to the convention where he will hopefully have some influence.


164 posted on 01/20/2008 5:28:12 AM PST by samtheman
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To: bill1952

Rush Limbaugh has no problem with Mitt. Why should you?


165 posted on 01/20/2008 5:28:17 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
"Romney or McCain? If someone put the gun to your head and you absolutely had to choose."

Romney is a gun grabber so you can call that a preemptive straw-man.


166 posted on 01/20/2008 5:29:21 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: Clemenza
“Too many folks live conservatively, but are liberal in the head. Case in point...”

My brother-in-law, who owns a business that employs 200 and who’s specialty makes his operation #3 nationally, lives in a ritzy part of town, owns 3 homes, 6 cars and thinks nothing of handing over cash for his wife who spends money like it’s going out of style...told me yesterday that he’s voting for Obama. He voted twice for Bush.

When I told him he’s the very group of people that Obama would target for income distribution, he blew me off and boasted how the whole neighborhood had Obama signs on their lawns. His neighborhood is one of high-income professionals who nonetheless, are riddled with liberal ideology.

When I asked him why he wouldn’t vote Republican, he started mouthing the “Change” mantra, not looking at the fact that part of the “change” would be coming out of his pockets and sent to D.C.

167 posted on 01/20/2008 5:29:24 AM PST by toddlintown (Build More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: TexasMatty
From another post; another thread:

If Romney is the nominee, imagine the debate with Hillary.
On abortion:

Hillary: I am pro-choice and in fact my opponent was also at one time.

On taxes:

Hillary: I opposed the Bush tax cuts for the rich, and in fact, my opponent was also against them at one time.

On healthcare for all:

Hillary: I support and will fight for healthcare for all, just like my opponent did in Massachusetts.
In fact, he said the biggest difference between his plan and mine is that his became law!
I welcome his support for my plan.

On gays serving openly in the military:

Hillary: It is time to end ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’
In fact, you Mr. Romney, were all for ending that plan even before me and my husband.
You were ahead of the curve and supported gays being allowed to serve openly way back in 1994.

On a huge stimulus package:

Hillary: I want to spend 100 billion in an effort to bring the economy back from this recession!
My opponent wants to spend 100 billion over 5 years just on the automobile industry, so my plan is, in fact, a lot more fiscally responsible than his!

168 posted on 01/20/2008 5:30:09 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: Earthdweller

Perhaps. But I was looking for a straight, one name answer.

So........ if I ask again..........

Romney or McCain?


169 posted on 01/20/2008 5:30:45 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: PJ-Comix

Stupid question.


170 posted on 01/20/2008 5:31:59 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: bill1952

I respect your devotion to your principles.
But please help me understand better.

Let’s say there are two candidates in November.
I’m exaggerating to make my point, but assume
both are pro-choice,
both support gay marriage,
both will raise taxes...
[ ] fill in domestic issues.

BUT:
One candidate believes national security is the most important issue and will govern accordingly.

The other candidate relies on domestic issues to hold his/her base together and tells us security threats are “overstated” and based on fear.

What would you do?
____________________________________________

Me? Domestic issues are important as hell, but I would still vote for the first guy. We can’t be naive and act as though our enemies will sleep-walk through a Dem presidency. They won’t. I have to go with the candidate who’s serious about national security.


171 posted on 01/20/2008 5:32:50 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: TexasMatty
I suggest you break away and form a far right party similar to what the Green Party did to the Democrats. Then you can nominate your hero Dick Cheney and get about 3-5% of the vote, ensuring 8 more years of a Clinton presidency.

In the meantime, the rest of us in the Republican party, as imperfect as you all point out ad nauseum, will be fighting to end the Clinton era.

172 posted on 01/20/2008 5:33:22 AM PST by ParaVet93
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To: Timeout

Not to mention that if the economy is #1 in voters minds, and security in 2nd, then Romney walks away with the nomination.

Mitt knows how to make money, Hillary knows only how to spend it.


173 posted on 01/20/2008 5:35:59 AM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: samtheman
"The media is bad, I’ll grant you that, but they don’t have the power to keep a Ronald Reagan (for example) down."

With an across the board media bias...yes they do. The Dem side is being controlled by a combo of media blackout and super delegates so if you think it's any better on their side you haven't been watching.

FR is all for complaining about media bias. That's what we do...that's why we are here for the most part.

174 posted on 01/20/2008 5:38:04 AM PST by Earthdweller
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To: HelloooClareece

And your point is......?


175 posted on 01/20/2008 5:38:14 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: Def Conservative

Four years will be to late. By then there could be more than 40 million illegals and if McCain gets in they will legalized and voting. What do you think things will be like then. If the republican party allows McCain to get the nomination, people will leave in mass. I know I will. May be good for a third party though. Say what you want about Thompson, Huckabee, and Romney, but at least they have said or pledged to do something that limits illegal immigration other than amnesty.


176 posted on 01/20/2008 5:39:14 AM PST by Racer1
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To: sensible centrist from NH

McCain can’t beat any of the democrats. That’s why they, and the MSM, pimp him at every opportunity. He polarizes the Republicans and they will stay home.

If you’re really looking to beat the Clintons find another candidate because it’s not McCain.


177 posted on 01/20/2008 5:39:23 AM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: PJ-Comix
You call getting behind Romney and the GOP who has been leaning leftward for since 2000' is going for the big win?

I don't think so.

For some of us it is game over.

178 posted on 01/20/2008 5:40:32 AM PST by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: Timeout

Pardon me for agreeing with your comment.

My bad.


179 posted on 01/20/2008 5:41:53 AM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

McCain...because I’d rather have an American liberal moonbat scr@wing with my country than a cold calculating commie.


180 posted on 01/20/2008 5:42:34 AM PST by Earthdweller
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