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Pilot's gun discharges on US Airways flight
wcnc via Drudge Report ^ | March 23, 2008 | DIANA RUGG

Posted on 03/23/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by RDTF

CHARLOTTE, N.C.-- A US Airways pilot’s gun accidentally discharged during a flight from Denver to Charlotte Saturday, according to as statement released by the airline. The statement said the discharge happened on Flight 1536, which left Denver at approximately 6:45am and arrived in Charlotte at approximately 11:51am.

The Airbus A319 plane landed safely and none of the flight’s 124 passengers or five crew members was injured, according to the statement. It was a full flight. An airline spokeswoman said the plane has been taken out of service to make sure it is safe to return to flight. A Transportation Safety Administration spokeswoman reached by WCNC Sunday said the pilot is part of TSA’s Federal Flight Deck Officer (FFDO) program, which trains pilots to carry guns on flights.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airlines; armedpilots; banglist; ffdo; tsa; usairways
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To: Eaker
You never chamber a round until you are ready to use the weapon. I always have a chambered round. I am always ready to use my weapon. Are you going to school me to think differently?

You just answered yourself. Do you like going in circles?

Ready to use is the operative phrase.

181 posted on 03/23/2008 9:59:41 PM PDT by 7mmMag@LeftCoast (The DNC and Rino's: they put the CON into congress everyday.)
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To: safisoft
"I am not sure what happened, but the possibility of AD is a part of the classified process"

Your statement sort of implies that you are knowledgeable of the process- Do the pilots choose their weapon, or is it selected for them? If the latter, what is the specified weapon? (If you can say.)

182 posted on 03/23/2008 10:08:59 PM PDT by matthew fuller (United We Stand- Diversified We Fall)
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To: DBrow
"maybe hitting the center fuel tank!"

LOL! Wonder how many will catch that?

183 posted on 03/23/2008 10:15:46 PM PDT by matthew fuller (United We Stand- Diversified We Fall)
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To: Capt_Hank

The story told...is only half the story. There are numerous details that they failed to question or put into it. I’d bet that the pilot had the gun out and was simply playing with it...and it dropped to the floor. As for why a bullet was in the chamber...that would be fascinating question to ask. The pilot? He’ll be suspended for at least 30 days...while they investigate...and he’ll get some type of demotion....I doubt they would fire the guy.


184 posted on 03/23/2008 10:38:03 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Eaker

Amen brother been carring a GLOCK for many years and ya know its never magically gone off. Just all the Glock haters pouring out of the woodwork


185 posted on 03/23/2008 10:51:26 PM PDT by Gollywomp
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To: Kirkwood

The gun won’t do you any good if it isn’t loaded oh hang on don’t rob me yet my guns not loaded


186 posted on 03/23/2008 10:51:26 PM PDT by Gollywomp
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To: NonLinear

Three clips ? Clips ?? Perhaps you mean magazines.
Sheesh Edith..... Good Lord , that eerks me to no end ....

Snoot ;o)


187 posted on 03/24/2008 12:50:15 AM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: Kirkwood

uh.... yep!


188 posted on 03/24/2008 3:10:43 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast
Only a complete idiot would place a gun in an uncontrolled condition that had a chambered round.

Unless the "idiot" was simply following a strict protocol, adminstered by government agents.

BTW, calling a magazine a "clip" and referencing a non-existent "Glock" only further shows your lack of knowledge.
189 posted on 03/24/2008 3:41:40 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: RDTF

There’s absolutely no reason for a Sig 229 to accidentally discharge unless the dude was fooling with it in the cock pit.

I wonder if it was in the holster at the time it went off?


190 posted on 03/24/2008 3:42:10 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Chuin, Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: matthew fuller
Federal Law Enforcement Officers cannot chose their own weapon.

For all the speculation and reaching on this thread, the "Glock" and "don't chamber a round" comments are the the least informed in LEO equipment and procedures. Clearly, a lot of people do not know what they are talking about.
191 posted on 03/24/2008 3:46:22 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: Erasmus

Sig makes all sorts of variants. I think the one you have in mind is the DAK trigger variant.

Oh, by the way, Im almost positive the pilot gun is the sig 229 in 357 sig caliber.


192 posted on 03/24/2008 3:47:00 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Chuin, Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast
You never chamber a round until you are ready to use the weapon.

How about keeping the bullet in your pocket? Barney Fife would be proud of you. I have never read anything so stupid in all my life.

Weapons on aircraft today are there to defend the flight deck. The time needed is seconds. Literally. "Ready to use" means "all the time" when defending aircraft. You have no idea what occurred.
193 posted on 03/24/2008 3:53:08 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: Armedanddangerous
Oh, by the way, Im almost positive the pilot gun is the sig 229 in 357 sig caliber.

The Sig is nice. It is in the public domain what the weapon is, since Congress authorized a massive purchase. You aren't even close.
194 posted on 03/24/2008 3:55:48 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: Armedanddangerous
I wonder if it was in the holster at the time it went off?

Ding, ding, ding. Another winner!
195 posted on 03/24/2008 3:56:44 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: safisoft

You leave the gun in the holster with a round chambered and don’t fiddle around with it until its time to put the gun away at home or shoot a terrorist with it.

It’s a deadly weapon, it’s not a knick nack to show visitors to the cockpit.


196 posted on 03/24/2008 4:02:29 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Chuin, Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: Armedanddangerous
You leave the gun in the holster with a round chambered and don’t fiddle around with it until its time to put the gun away at home or shoot a terrorist with it.

You are definitely on to something. There is one piece of the puzzle that is missing, and no, it has nothing to do with showing it off, or fiddling with it. It has to do with a particular procedure. One, that oddly enough, was being followed.
197 posted on 03/24/2008 4:18:27 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: infantrywhooah

There are absolutely ADs. They are far more rare than NDs since they require an unlikely mechanical failure of the weapon, but they do happen. I had a .50-cal AD during a patrol on one of my Strykers due to a mechanical failure. CO and BN armorers looked at it and concluded the same thing—mechanical failure, not operator error.


198 posted on 03/24/2008 4:23:26 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Dude, where's my adrenaline?)
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast
I was quoting a post. Did you notice the italics?
199 posted on 03/24/2008 6:09:49 AM PDT by Eaker (2 Thessalonians 3:10 “... He that will not work, neither should he eat.”)
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To: matthew fuller

One so far!


200 posted on 03/24/2008 6:55:52 AM PDT by DBrow
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