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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Toki

I’m gonna try to do both...i missed the beginning of BO earlier.


1,661 posted on 08/16/2008 8:05:38 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Toki

Thanks for reminding me.. I would much rather root for our athletes than watch Obamalamadingdong stutter..


1,662 posted on 08/16/2008 8:05:46 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: cpforlife.org
Yes.
Gravitas.
1,663 posted on 08/16/2008 8:05:51 PM PDT by XR7
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To: TornadoAlley3
I'm wondering, can MSNBC get the electrode out of Chris Matthews’ leg now? I mean, the poor fool wouldn't want to have another quiver run up his leg now that Obama has been exposed as a total novice fool Marxist. Can you imagine what the Rodham rodent's answers would have been? More mature I would bet, at least. Poor Chris Matthews, so totally irrelevant now.
1,664 posted on 08/16/2008 8:06:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Toki

IF you can’t watch it, I highly recommend recording it.

Rebroadcast just started on FoxNews — Obama interview first.


1,665 posted on 08/16/2008 8:06:19 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Nasher

McCAIN KICKED BUTT TONIGHT.

He covered more territory in 10 minutes - with facts and conviction - than Obama did in the whole hour. So much for the “age issue”.


1,666 posted on 08/16/2008 8:06:22 PM PDT by drierice
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To: XR7

That was nice......as a person who taught for one year.....if you are a bad teacher, leave. Few things make me more angry than teachers who stay when they are doing kids a disservice. I could not connect with the kids (a lot of the problem was teaching MS instead of high school, but I have still chosen another path though may go teach in college at some point since I could do a great job there). Good teachers need supported, but the bad ones need to leave, and if they don’t leave, they need kicked out.


1,667 posted on 08/16/2008 8:06:28 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: hocndoc

I’m watching the rerun and highlights, and I’ve got to admit, McCain seemed the most sincere that I’ve seen a candidate.

The Obamao’s spray in gray hair thing is pure nonsense.


1,668 posted on 08/16/2008 8:06:37 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Romans 10.10/Eze 11.2)
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To: del4hope
I can’t keep up on this thread. We just returned from a gathering, so I am afraid that I have missed about 1100 posts. Has anything happened that wasn’t predictable????

Sorry, I was taking a shower;

1,669 posted on 08/16/2008 8:06:53 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: txflake

David Gergan was stunned into stumbling over his own words. He said Obama is going to have a much bigger fight to win this election that he releases. I do believe that gergan was completely blown away by McCain’s performance.

They will spin it all away tomorrow, but everyone who watched konws that McCain is the only adult in this race.


1,670 posted on 08/16/2008 8:07:44 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: 4yearlurker

McCain body surfed all over the messiah tonight. The news media is still trying to put a shine on a pile of crap.

point


1,671 posted on 08/16/2008 8:08:03 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Shortstop7

Tom Coburn is Obama’s friend? Say what?


1,672 posted on 08/16/2008 8:08:03 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: XR7

FoxNews — NOW — just started. Someone said also n CSPAN, but I am not sure about that one.

I don’t know if it’s on the internet, but it’s on TV.


1,673 posted on 08/16/2008 8:08:19 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Raycpa

McCain was smokin hot! Obama well, uh uh uh...it it it...


1,674 posted on 08/16/2008 8:08:43 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Sun

I’m voting for McCain. Fight your own battles.


1,675 posted on 08/16/2008 8:08:54 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Tennessee Nana

He does test the water,wanted to throw a banana peel on the the floor tonight.

Takes after me.

Deep down I do worry about this youngin”.,and this Country.


1,676 posted on 08/16/2008 8:09:07 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (In my day,Flunking gym was not an option , even for Stupid Kids!)
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To: Raycpa

You’ve got a huge Hot water heater, or that continuous hot water system advertised by Rush, or you like cold showers. [shivers]


1,677 posted on 08/16/2008 8:09:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: txflake
I thought Obama compared Coburn to a terrorist?
1,678 posted on 08/16/2008 8:09:34 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: tiredoflaundry

And the lib/commie media is already junping on JSMc’s comment re: rich being $5M, which was a total tongue in cheek.

Hell, 5M is rich... and so is 500,000/year. I just wish Warren had asked each to define WINDFALL PROFIT!


1,679 posted on 08/16/2008 8:10:01 PM PDT by dbacks (Should we really elect a man that would not be allowed to be an airport baggage screener?)
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To: mnehrling; SE Mom; penelopesire; Miss Didi; netmilsmom; rodguy911; Alas Babylon!; retrokitten; ...

AWESOME ! Thank you for posting.

http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm


1,680 posted on 08/16/2008 8:10:05 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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