Posted on 08/18/2008 4:56:08 AM PDT by cpforlife.org
In 1981, a group of internationally known scientists appeared before a Senate judiciary subcommittee to answer the question, “When does human life begin?” Their answers are below and make Pro-Aborts very uncomfortable. But nowhere near as uncomfortable as the last moments of life will be for the 3,500 babies who will be aborted tomorrow.
At the Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency, Rev. Rick Warren asked both candidates the question: At what point does a baby gets “human rights.” McCain’s answer was direct “At the moment of conception.”
Obama’s answer was the non-answer heard round the political world. His voting record is solidly Pro-Abortion and as an Illinois senator he defended Live Birth Abortions for three years. So why didn’t Obama answer “at birth” or “at birth as long as the mother does not want the baby to die”?
“…answering that question with specificity is, you know, above my pay grade..”
No Sen. Obama. Answering that question with specificity would abort your campaign.
We must hammer home the SCIENTIFIC FACT that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION. We have to take control of the language used in the abortion debate. We must stop Pro-Aborts from confusing the issue by claiming the question about the beginning of life is a theological matter. It is biological science.
And abortion itself is a civil rights issue.
Late to the thread, and haven’t read all the posts closely. What kind of an answer is this “above my pay grade” nonsense? BHO is running for the Presidency of the USA. There is no “higher pay grade” than this. The POTUS is asked to make life and death decisions that affect large numbers of people. If he ain’t up to the pay grade, don’t apply for the job. This is a hard question only for those who don’t want to admit the obvious. The “ProChoice” crowd needs the old tag of “ProAbortion”. Facts are facts. State for the record that they are willing to disregard the life of the unborn child. Don’t nuance around about this possibly not being “life”.
There are pluses and minuses to the influx of foreign cash for democrat candidates: it brings money back into the country from those to whom we’ve paid it for oil and foreign aid; the influx of millions and millions goes to strengthen the media which is paid to promote these marxist democrats.
That was a good point. He supports and votes for a philosophy that posits that people don’t have “human rights” until they’re born. Why not just say that?
**It is truly amazing how Obama could say so little with so many words, while McCain said so much with just a few.**
McCain has gravitas and is ready to be the Presdient as well as the Commander in Chief.
Expect a landslide for McCain. (My prediction)
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"Living organisms
That's from my son's 8th grade Life Science book.
A doctor who cannot tell the difference between a live embryo and a dead one is --- at the very least --- unqualified to be an OB/GYN.
From your keyboard to God's monitor!
//I will not be voting for any pro-abortion candidate//
Me either.
Anyone calling themselves a Christian need only to look up a few Bible passages, and they will have their answer. Christ Jesus righteous anger at the swindlers selling things in the temple has nothing on the anger of whole-sale slaughter of innocent beings HE has created.
And, if you take the morally squishy route of
“I’m not sure when life begins”
what does it say about your moral character when you err on the side of killing something that you’re not sure is NOT human?
Of course, you can “logic trap” a leftist. They are “comfortable with contradiction”.
errr... you CAN’T “logic trap” a leftist.
Thanks for your 48. I get so furious with that kind of stupidity you took care of that I normally have to ignore it. Thanks!
In the classic "Hunters in the Underbrush" scenario, two hunters are out in the woods hoping to bag some deer. They become separated, and before long, one hunbter sees some movement in the bushes. He can't see what's making the bushes move. It could be his fellow hunter; it could be a deer.
Ethics question: Is he ethically permitted to shoot?
And the answer, class, is "No." Class, you cannot shoot unless you are morally certain that you are not endangering a human life. In doubtful situations you are always required to give "the benefit of the doubt" to human life.
Obama claims to be an advocate of human rights: but his whole philosophy appears to be built up on a firm foundation of absolutely nothing. He doesn't know what a human being is. He doesn't know that human rights begin when human life begins, and human life begins at the beginning.
To put it simply, at the level of Obama's pay grade: human life is transmitted from generation to generation. And it is transmitted with every act of human reproduction which results in fertilization. If an offspring has been begotten, human life has been successfully transmitted to a new generation.
And --- "Pay grade?" --- excuse me. The Presidency of the United States is not an entry-level trainee position.
For some reason, I cannot look at “pay grade” on an Obama thread without seeing “gay parade”.
Anyway, he’s asking to be hired for THE HIGHEST pay grade in the world,
and the question of when life begins, in this context,
is a MATTER OF LAW,
which he, as highest Executive, is charged with enforcing.
He MUST answer this question, or not be qualified for the office.
You are saying that of a black American who is a member of a political party that for decades, refused blacks their humanity, citizenship, civil rights and liberty.
A black American who admires Supremacist Margaret Sanger, founder of the eugenics movement (the fetus of planned Parenthood) whose aim was to wipe out blacks.
A black American who disagrees with a Dred Scott SC that denied blacks were human or entitled to citizenship, yet agrees with a Roe v Wade SC that denied babies were human or entitled to citizenship or life.
He's contradictory and hypocritical across the board.
I wish there was another candidate out there that I could vote for. Hopefully McCain picks a Pro-life candidate.
Repeating the that mantra that Life begins with conception is to confuse the terms and confuse the issue. Adding in the scientific definition of living does us less than no good. Do we have absolute protection for all living things? This goes beyond even PETA territory into Jainism. Jains sweep the road ahead of them to avoid stepping on bugs. They're alive after all.
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