Posted on 09/05/2008 2:32:16 PM PDT by neverdem
The Obama campaign talks a lot about new ideas and expanding the political map, but in the swing state of Pennsylvania, which the campaign has focused on almost exclusively since the Democratic convention, old-school issues still rise to the fore.
The latest example came Friday during a small political event at SCHOTT North America Inc., a glass factory in Duryea, Pa., where even a hand-picked crowd threw Barack Obama a curve ball.
A woman in the crowd told Obama she had “heard a rumor” that he might be planning some sort of gun ban upon being elected president. Obama trotted out his standard policy stance, that he had a deep respect for the “traditions of gun ownership” but favored measures in big cities to keep guns out of the hands of “gang bangers and drug dealers’’ in big cities “who already have them and are shooting people.”
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Why wouldn't these government paid Communist go after the gangsters instead of the guns?
We know where 99 percent of all these cockroaches live. We have cataloged their tattoos, we know where they hang out, who their accomplices are, who their girlfriends are, where their families live, we have their criminal records, their photographs, work histories, we have most these roaches DNA, fingerprints etc. We jail them routinely, then these government hacks routinely release them back to prey on the rest of us.
Who they kidding?
Damn Right you’re not Obama!
Not if you don’t whant a civil war on your hands!
This year’s Democratic ticket is likely the most anti-gun pair that has ever run- besting even Clinton/Gore and Kerry/Edwards. Obama’s record is well documented at www.nraila.org/obama - including his votes to ban most all rifle ammunition commonly used by hunters and sportsmen and supporting a proposal that would close almost all gun shops in the country. Biden is just as bad.
Senator Biden has a long anti-gun record. Beginning in the late 1980s, he voted against the NRA position on most issues. He received an “F” rating from the NRA in 2002.
Sen. Biden was the lead sponsor of the Senate crime bill in the 103rd Congress (S. 1607), to which the Clinton Gun Ban amendment was attached. (The crime bill that eventually passed was the House version, but it still included the gun ban.)
Biden voted for the ban on a stand-alone vote in 1993 ( Feinstein amendment, vote no. 375, 11/17/93) and voted to extend the ban in 2004 as an amendment to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (vote no. 24, 3/2/2004), and included a renewal of the ban in his crime bill last year along with gun show restrictions (S. 2237, title VI).
In the 101st Congress, 1990, Biden introduced two crime bills, S. 1970 and S. 1972. S. 1970 proposed banning the AR-15 and similar semi-automatic firearms, and provided that the Treasury Secretary and Attorney General could recommend to Congress any other firearms (regardless of type) to be designated as “additional assault weapons.”S. 1972 proposed banning the purchase of the same guns unless the seller and buyer fill out and maintain copies of a 4473 or equivalent document, essentially just requiring private sellers to maintain records.
Biden reiterated his support for the ban (in fact, took credit for authoring it) in response to a question at the the CNN/YouTube debate this year (referenced in Saturday’s post). He also campaigned on the issue, and used the other side’s usual talking points in his campaign ads and letters to constituents in the ’90s. Even before the Feinstein amendment, Biden introduced crime bills that contained semi-auto bans (see bottom).
Hat tip to my friends over at the Yahoo Gun Issues group.
Well I be damned! You finally got one right Bozo!
You definitely are NOT taking my guns away!
Nope. It was already formulated for him by one Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, and passed to The One by Saul Alinsky :
"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie."
"One man with a gun can control one hundred without one."
First, deny ownership to the opposition, then arm your own people to control the now-disarmed rabble.
Tradition of gun ownership!?
How about that 2nd Amendment to the Constitution.
Didn’t he teach Constitutional law? Or was that Liberal Constitutional Law?
"Instead, I'll send my jack-booted government thugs to take them away. When you are visited by them, be sure to open the door promptly, and don't talk back to them."
Go get Em John & Sarah
Its as simple as the difference between citizen and subject. Only Tyrants like Stalin and Hitler want unarmed citizens.
Aww cripes....maybe Obamao could borrow Michelle’s Atlantic Monthly AK and “buy himself a huntin’ license”..
Obama to pull a Kerry?
LOL! I can see Obama now in a duck blind...bwahahaha...now that would be priceless!!!!!
The NRA has already earmarked a chunk of money to go after Obama.
What exactly are they waiting on, the election to be over? The NRA needs to get their act together and run some ads PDQ.
Don’t beleive a word he says. If he’ll lie about this, he’ll lie about anything.
FACT:
Barack Obama voted against the confirmation of 2 of the 5 Justices that affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms.
FACT:
Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1
FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15
FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3
FACT:
Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9
FACT:
Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2
FACT:
Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4
FACT:
Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people
who use firearms in self-defense.5
FACT:
Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6
FACT:
Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.
FACT:
Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7
FACT:
Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8
FACT:
Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9
FACT:
Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10
FACT:
Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11
FACT:
Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12
FACT:
Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13
FACT:
Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2
FACT:
Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14
FACT:
Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16
FACT:
Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9
FACT:
Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9
FACT:
Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9
1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00219)
2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 2008. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)
3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00217)
4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, “Obama: ‘Common Sense Regulation’ On Gun Owners’ Rights,” ABC News’ “Political Radar” Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/obama-common-se.html)
6. “Fact Check: No News In Obama’s Consistent Record.” Obama ’08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/11/fact_check_no_news_in_obamas_c.php)
7. “Candidates’ gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and “Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns,” Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_560181.html)
8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.
9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)
10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.
11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.
12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html)
13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/barack_obama_comments_on_shoot.html)
14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urbanpolicy/#crime-and-law-enforcement.)
15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm and http://www.ontheissues.org/IL_2004_Senate_3rd.htm) Oct 21, 2004.
16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.
“Obama lies about everything, just as Reverend Wright predicted he would, “saying what he has to to get elected.”
That’s the commercial they need to make to highlight his association with Wright. A big buildup on it, then, “what does the man who baptized his children have to say about him?”
Zinger.
Everyone who is eligible should buy a gun and learn how to use it. That would send a clear message to the Democrats, other socialists, and the rest of the crooks.
Nice, and quite correct, there were many Southern Blacks who were NRA members back in the day, they would get chartered and buy firearms via the mail to protect themselves and their families.
Gunownership in the South was a survival tool a pity Obama missed that fact.
thanks for posting.
Tell me another fairytale, Obama.
I am not an unreasonable man.
For anyone that wants my guns, I am willing to trade them. Just be absolutely certain that you are willing to lose what I intend to take in the trade.
All trades are final.
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