Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Is it illegal to live stream a phone call without permission???
10/28/08 | Self

Posted on 10/28/2008 7:45:44 AM PDT by Robe

Is it illegal to live stream a phone call without permission?.. Someone (I won't name yet) called a Senators Office and live streamed a conversation with an intern with out telling the intern he was online. Now, I know it's unethical but is it a crime????


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: freelegaladvice; ohthehughvanity; thisisseries; vanity; yetanothervanity
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-43 next last
To: Robe

It’d be a felony in Florida if you didn’t have the consent of the other party to the call.


21 posted on 10/28/2008 7:56:21 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nathan Zachary

The key point of these laws is the expectation of privacy on the part of the other party to the call, so any difference between live streaming and recording is not much of a distinction.


22 posted on 10/28/2008 7:58:02 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: King of Florida

Radio stations do it all the time. I’ve never heard of anyone of them getting sued for not informing the person they humiliate prior to airing the call.


23 posted on 10/28/2008 8:01:59 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: djf

Exactly. Totally depends on the state. In some only one party needs to know it’s being done, in others both do.


24 posted on 10/28/2008 8:04:21 AM PDT by Klepto
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Robe

There may be no law settled on the matter.


25 posted on 10/28/2008 8:11:14 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nathan Zachary

That’s because they presumably get their permission beforehand.


26 posted on 10/28/2008 8:13:15 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Robe
An intern is not a public official....

In this instance, they would be. S/he is working in a public official's office. Whether they are getting paid is irrelevant.

27 posted on 10/28/2008 8:28:17 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Robe

Yep, against the law.

full disclosure, and “you’re on the air” must preceed a broadcast telephone call.

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2004/DA-04-2543A1.html
for reference...


28 posted on 10/28/2008 8:29:11 AM PDT by petro45acp (NO good endeavor survives an excess of "adult supervision" (read bureaucracy)!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Robe

Most states are “One Party” states, where if one party consents to recording it is legal. DC and SC are both “One Party” jurisdictions. Crossing state lines the Federal requirement - again “One Party” could apply. The recording is legal. you can also say something silly at the beginning like “for training and quality purposes calls may be randomly recorded” and you are covered basically anywhere.


29 posted on 10/28/2008 8:29:35 AM PDT by cqnc (Vote for the ex-POW; Don't BECOME one!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Robe

One could easily gather fun conversations from a campaign staff using a homemade esn grabber carried to campaign events and then setting up automated equipment to record calls to the captured esn’s.

It’s pretty easy to clone an old cell phone to someones esn and automatically record their phone calls. You can find full details on the net if you look for it. Best bet would be to post to a usenet server via an anonymizing chain while using an open public wifi access point so it can’t be traced to you and then just reference the publicly available recording on a blog posting made anonymously.

You need above average intelligence to pull off stuff like this and not leave clues to your identity...so it’s not for the average Joe to play with. Without detailed planning you will leave a trail any investigator can follow to your door. There are just so many tracks we make while doing anything in this technological age.

There are so many fun things one could do...alas I’m saddled with a strong moral code and therefore left out of all the fun.


30 posted on 10/28/2008 8:30:00 AM PDT by Bobalu (Obama cannot win without the kind of people that Palin appeals to.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Robe

Now you have all of us wondering....if you’re worried about the actual conversation then at least transcribe it into writing and let us know...that might make us REALLY WANT TO GET THE REAL AUDIO OUT!!!!!


31 posted on 10/28/2008 8:30:25 AM PDT by WIright
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: shadeaud
It's legal if you are a retired couple sitting in your car and mistakenly capture a communication from a Republican official and then think it would be fun to send it to your son who just happens to work for a Democrat.

I think they pled out in that case and McDermott owes Boehner a boatload of money in a decision upheld by the USSC.

32 posted on 10/28/2008 8:30:52 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

Comment #33 Removed by Moderator

To: King of Florida
That’s because they presumably get their permission beforehand.

Not with prank/crank calls. However, our local station does require the person requesting the crank to sign a form that says if the station gets sued, the crank requestor gets sued along with them.

34 posted on 10/28/2008 8:32:11 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

Comment #35 Removed by Moderator

To: IYAS9YAS
Not with prank/crank calls. However, our local station does require the person requesting the crank to sign a form that says if the station gets sued, the crank requestor gets sued along with them.

I think most of those calls are recorded in advance and they get permission to broadcast them after the call. It's a smart move.

36 posted on 10/28/2008 8:35:10 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Robe

28 is correct ONLY if broadcast LIVE over an FCC licensed US radio or television station. Once you make a single party consent recording (you consented, right?)it is yours to disseminate however you choose. Uploading via a proxy is still good, because, like Joe the Plumber, you may end up a celebrity yourself.


37 posted on 10/28/2008 8:35:21 AM PDT by cqnc (Vote for the ex-POW; Don't BECOME one!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Robe

I would say that since the call was from/to a PUBLIC SERVANT acting in their official capacity that a right to privacy is not to be expected. Upload it and post it on youtube.


38 posted on 10/28/2008 8:36:17 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And so is Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Robes

If you put it up on YOUTUBE, try to put some video with it, such as captioning the words...will make it more effective.


39 posted on 10/28/2008 8:39:24 AM PDT by WIright
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: hiredhand

It’s a USC title 18 violation and is generally a felony.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2511.html

I’m not a lawyer though, so don’t take my word for it!


I won’t. Recording your own phone call is not “interception” of a call under federal law.

Some states require notice to the second party, but many (most?) do not.

http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-america.htm

The U.S. federal law allows recording of phone calls and other electronic communications with the consent of at least one party to the call. A majority of the states and territories have adopted wiretapping statutes based on the federal law, although most have also extended the law to cover in-person conversations. 38 states and the D.C. permit recording telephone conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so.

12 states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.

It is illegal under all jurisdictions to record calls in which one is not a party.

A complete state-by-state set of regulations regarding telephone call recording may be obtained in the following report published by The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press:

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states.html

(Google is a wonderful thing: “south carolina phone call recording law”)


40 posted on 10/28/2008 8:40:56 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-43 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson