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'Why Believe in a God? Just be Good' Ads Set to Run Next Week On D.C. Buses
Fox News ^ | 11/11/2008 | Fox News/AP

Posted on 11/11/2008 6:05:05 PM PST by Gordon Greene

Ads proclaiming, "Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness' sake," will appear on Washington, D.C., buses starting next week and running through December. The American Humanist Association unveiled the provocative $40,000 holiday ad campaign Tuesday.

In lifting lyrics from "Santa Claus is Coming to Town," the Washington-based group is wading into what has become a perennial debate over commercialism, religion in the public square and the meaning of Christmas.

"We are trying to reach our audience, and sometimes in order to reach an audience, everybody has to hear you," said Fred Edwords, spokesman for the humanist group...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: ads; antichristmas; atheism; christianity; culturewars; dcmetro; humanists; irreligiousleft; moralrelativism; morons; religion; sign
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To: Gordon Greene

those are gubmint subsidized buses
running with an anti religious message


41 posted on 11/11/2008 6:25:35 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: elkfersupper
"Actually, that is a good question."

It's a silly question. Without a supreme arbiter and definer of what is "good" that definition is left up to the individual.

42 posted on 11/11/2008 6:25:42 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Admin Moderator

I appreciate the explanation, but I’m not sure how this is not both news and activism... news for the obvious reason that it is, well... news. And activism because it is from the obvious activist views of the Humanist Society.

However, I’ll be careful to abide by your wishes.

Thanks for the heads-up.


43 posted on 11/11/2008 6:27:16 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Me... I'm ignorant but I do know this; God is our only hope!)
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To: Gordon Greene
A atheist is about to enter the forest to conduct a scientific study of great importance. Just as he begins his hike, he is met by a six-year-old boy who frantically warns, "Mister! Don't go into those woods on account of there's a monster that lives there and he'll eat you for lunch!"

The atheist condescendingly pats the boy's head and smugly explains that there are no such things as monsters, and then he enters the woods and promptly gets eaten by a bear.

Moral
The atheist is smart enough to know that there are no such things as monsters but dumb enough not to take heed

44 posted on 11/11/2008 6:28:49 PM PST by WhatNot (Time on your hands? Put them together in prayer!)
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To: Raycpa

Very good!


45 posted on 11/11/2008 6:29:52 PM PST by donna (Sarah Palin: A Feminist, not a Conservative.)
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To: Gordon Greene

People do not understand thre is a huge assault against religio going on the left is relentless they don’t just not believe in God they hate religion.


46 posted on 11/11/2008 6:31:41 PM PST by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: Gordon Greene

Bertrand Russell said: “Outside human desires, there is no moral standard.”

I crush mosquitoes when they irritate me. May I also crush atheists when they irritate me?

Should I refrain from squashing them “for the welfare of society”? Who’s to say seeking the welfare of society is moral or not? Who’s to say that the very survival of society is moral or not?

Dariwnism measures goodness in terms of survival value

Will Durant wrote:

“If life is a struggle for existence in which the fittest survive, then strength is the ultimate virtue, and weakness the only fault. Good is that which survives, which wins; bad is that which gives way and fails.”

Bernardi, the German General and military writer:

“Might is at once the supreme right...War gives a biologically just decision.”

Here’s one you’ll like from Nietzsche:

“Man shall be trained for war, and woman for the recreation of the warrior: all else is folly.”

“Moral” atheists borrow from the creed of others. They may include mental giants, but they are moral pigmies.


47 posted on 11/11/2008 6:31:48 PM PST by FNU LNU (Nothing runs like a Deere, nothing smells like a john)
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To: Nosterrex

Exactly, even people who don’t acknowledge God know right and wrong. It’s just that without God, their morality is absurd and ultimately indefensible. Nevertheless they cling to it.


48 posted on 11/11/2008 6:32:31 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Gordon Greene
So without God, what is good? Depends on what the definition of is is, I guess.
49 posted on 11/11/2008 6:32:48 PM PST by Force of Truth (The "common good" will make us all common.)
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To: Gordon Greene

“Good” as defined by whom? Atheists? Liberal Democrats? Clearly religious people are out in the new Atheist Utopia. So, we will set our moral watches by those who live a strict code of moral ambiguity; who, when caught doing wrong, scream “how dare you judge me?” Talk about chaos. Such a society could not possibly survive in the long run with such an outlook.


50 posted on 11/11/2008 6:33:06 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: bcsco

I should start an atheist chapter that is against abortion, homosexuality, illegal-aliens, Democrats, socialists, marxists, and communinsts.

That would be fun! A nice website everyone could visit, meetings, marches, protests.

I’ve heard atheists are very accepting of people of diversity.


51 posted on 11/11/2008 6:35:07 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I can go with all but #1.


52 posted on 11/11/2008 6:35:25 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Nosterrex

Excellent post! I agree and it is a good question to pose.

We forget that we have an enemy who is fighting tooth and nail to deceive and confuse. It is even more apparent in this day and age.


53 posted on 11/11/2008 6:36:03 PM PST by mkcc30 (Reagan's shadow had more substance than Obama!)
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To: Gordon Greene

You have all made excellent points about “being good”. It’s true that outside of God there is NO GOOD! Therefore everyone can define it for themselves.

I believe this was more of a hit against Christianity than it was for their humanist view point. They obviously are sending their main message “Why believe in God?”

I agree that this is religion on government buses and should be taken down or give God and Jesus equal space to answer that very question!


54 posted on 11/11/2008 6:36:52 PM PST by SoldiersSister (SoldiersSister)
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To: tbpiper
Do you have an answer?

I surely do not. You?

55 posted on 11/11/2008 6:37:14 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: EGPWS

I think the answer is obvious: They don’t believe in God but they DO BELIEVE in Santa Claus. Of course, now they think they’ve elected him.


56 posted on 11/11/2008 6:40:04 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Force of Truth
So without God, what is good?

This was a big issue for C.S. Lewis, who maintained that without some kind of awareness of a higher goodness or justice, we could have no understanding of the concepts of "goodness" or "justice", any more than a fish could know that it's wet.

57 posted on 11/11/2008 6:40:12 PM PST by denydenydeny ("The monster state is a source of many evils; but it is, above all, an engine of envy."--Paul Johnso)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Without a supreme arbiter and definer of what is "good" that definition is left up to the individual.

Heaven forbid.

58 posted on 11/11/2008 6:40:13 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Gordon Greene
Why believe in RightWingIt.com? Just eat more Spam!
59 posted on 11/11/2008 6:41:22 PM PST by Petronski (Things fall apart, it's scientific.)
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To: Gordon Greene

When the Humanist society becomes an FR chapter, they will be more than welcome into the Activism sidebar.


60 posted on 11/11/2008 6:41:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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