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Man-Made Global Warming Supposedly Began 5,000 Years Ago
Accuweather ^ | Friday, December 19, 2008 | Brett Anderson - Canada

Posted on 12/20/2008 11:40:08 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Researchers from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, using supercomputers and advanced climate models have hypothesised that human actions started causing global warming between 5,000 and 8,000 years ago.

According to the article from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the implementation of agriculture in Asia and widespread deforestation in Europe was the main cause. Specifically, the introduction of rice cultivation and large scale tree removal led to a significant rise in carbon dioxide and methane levels into the atmosphere.

The UW team lead by Steve Vavrus, a climatologist from the University of Wisconsin's Center for Climatic research also think that the build up of greenhouse gases over thousands of years has prevented the start of a new glacial age. I posted a blog last month (November 17th) that talks about this as well.

Categories: Past Climate

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climatecycles; globalwarminghoax
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1 posted on 12/20/2008 11:40:08 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: xcamel; SunkenCiv; blam; NormsRevenge

fyi


2 posted on 12/20/2008 11:40:39 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, I think that the simple answer is that we should just go extinct, then.


3 posted on 12/20/2008 11:43:46 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Researchers from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, using supercomputers and advanced climate models have hypothesised that human actions started causing global warming between 5,000 and 8,000 years ago.

Genesis 1
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
4 posted on 12/20/2008 11:44:06 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; ...
 


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5 posted on 12/20/2008 11:44:10 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Must have been a very energetic species to do all that by hand with rocks tied to sticks.


6 posted on 12/20/2008 11:44:41 AM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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To: All
EXCERPT from the referenced Milwaukee Source:

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The researchers used data from other scientists who have been measuring oxygen and other gases trapped in ice core samples from Antarctica that are 850,000 years old.

The air samples from 5,000 to 8,000 years ago contained unmistakable levels of methane and carbon dioxide gases.

Methane levels rose from decomposing vegetation in terraced rice paddies, Vavrus said. The rising levels of carbon dioxide came from deforestation known to have taken place in Europe.

Three different climate models were used. The researchers removed the amount of greenhouse gases that humans sent into the atmosphere, based on the ice core samples. The models show more permanent snow and ice cover in Canada, Siberia, Greenland and the Rocky Mountains.

Vavrus said the research supports theories first put forward by William F. Ruddiman, a paleoclimatologist at the University of Virginia.

7 posted on 12/20/2008 11:44:57 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

These people are raving lunatics. Gonna be an interesting 4 to 8 years. Seeds and ammo I guess.


8 posted on 12/20/2008 11:45:12 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

stupid eggheads!


9 posted on 12/20/2008 11:45:20 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All; thackney
Reference:

Plows, Plagues and Petroleum

10 posted on 12/20/2008 11:46:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The old ice core BS again, eh? Thoroughly discredited on too many counts to enumerate.


11 posted on 12/20/2008 11:47:11 AM PST by jsh3180
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What I think is that these researchers should become ‘ass magnets’ for prison ‘butt pirates’ while they are incarcerated for useless scholarship.


12 posted on 12/20/2008 11:49:24 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So, then, someone please explain how humans caused this
13 posted on 12/20/2008 11:49:57 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It ought to be obvious to anybody who doesn't have their head up their exit orifice that the real agenda of the anthropogenic global warming alarmists is to decimate the human population, either by starvation, which would be the net result of the economic burdens they want to saddle us with, or via a "final solution."
14 posted on 12/20/2008 11:50:14 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors are the opium of the people.)
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To: jwalsh07
"Seeds and ammo I guess."

Yup...but, you should have those aready.

I'm expecting a seed shortage this spring.

15 posted on 12/20/2008 11:50:14 AM PST by blam
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So, in conclusion —— many years ago, dinosaur farts was the leading cause of global warming.

Then....dinosaur's became extinct, and Sha-Zam, man begin to do all the global warming.

End of story! (Not)

17 posted on 12/20/2008 11:54:58 AM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Catching some excerpts from the Wikipedia article linked at post #10:

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Plows, Plagues and Petroleum: How Humans Took Control of Climate is a 2005 book published by Princeton University Press and written by William Ruddiman, a paleoclimatologist and Professor Emeritus at the University of Virginia. He has authored and co-authored several different books [1] and academic papers [2] on the subject of climate change. This book however takes a more controversial approach by challenging the common conclusion of climate scientists that human induced climate change began with the industrial revolution through the widespread burning of fossil fuels.

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Synopsis

Ruddiman begins the book with a brief introduction to the science of climate change and the various individuals that have been key in influencing the field over the years. He also notes that the earth’s climate has been drifting toward cooler temperatures for the last 55 million years. The dominant hypothesis for this trend is that large volcanic eruptions have subsided while increasing amounts of carbon dioxide have been absorbed out of the atmosphere due to interactions between monsoon rains and ground up rock exposed by India pushing into Asia and creating the Himalayas. Additionally it is believed that the melting ice that produced higher sea levels resulted in the ocean absorbing more carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. These two natural occurrences resulted in less carbon dioxide in the atmosphere hence possibly producing the general cooling trend.

According to Ruddiman beginning about 900,000 years ago the earth has begun to go through regular glacial cycles in which glaciers or ice have covered approximately one quarter of the earth’s total surface. These conditions typically last for about 100,000 years and are followed by brief interglacial periods of more temperate weather. Ruddiman cites various researchers in geology and astronomy who pioneered the understanding of earth’s climate as a function of its orbit. The various cycles of earth’s climate seem to be explained by the eccentricity, axial tilt, and precession of the Earth's orbit as well as cycles in the amount of solar radiation. Ruddiman primarily relies on the groundwork by Milutin Milankovitch to explain the effects of solar radiation and earth’s orbit on the climate. By examining ice cores from around the world scientists have been able to link levels of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide and methane to the various cycles of earth’s climate history. The discovery of carbon dating aided a great deal in developing this understanding. Upon investigating the levels of carbon dioxide and methane in the earth’s atmosphere in the most recent interglacial period-10,000 years ago- Ruddiman noticed that levels of carbon dioxide and methane were steadily rising despite the fact that the earth’s natural cycles determined that they should have been decreasing. It was this discovery that lead to Ruddiman’s search for an explanation and ultimately the creation of this book.

Ruddiman’s central argument is that this most recent interglacial period has deviated from the natural cycle because of human activities, most importantly farming. Approximately 10,000 years ago the ice that once covered large portions of the northern hemisphere began to recede and gave rise to a new way of life for early humans. In the beginning these early humans had little impact on the environment because they were primarily hunter gatherer societies that moved from location to location allowing previously inhabited locations to be reclaimed by nature. However, about 8,000 years ago humans first developed agriculture and a domesticated lifestyle that allowed them to continually inhabit regions and build large civilizations. Ruddiman claims that carbon dioxide emission records indicate that levels in the atmosphere began to rise at about this same time. This process was intensified as the centuries passed and new technologies such animal husbandry and the plow made their way into more and more cultures. These new technologies allowed for more efficient and methods of clearing forests and making room for increasing populations. According to previous interglacial periods the concentration of carbon dioxide should have fallen by about 20 parts per million instead of rising by 20 parts per million. Ruddiman uses estimates of population, forest cleared per person and carbon emitted per each square kilometer cleared to approximate the total impact and concludes that the magnitude is reasonably close to the extra carbon dioxide accumulated during the period.

Ruddiman also attributes the rise of methane gas in the atmosphere to human related activities. The most notable of these activities is the cultivation of rice in artificial wetlands in Asia and increased animal waste due to increasing populations of domesticated animals. According to Ruddiman methane concentrations should have peaked about 11,000 years ago slightly above 700 parts per billion and then declined to about 450 parts per billion today. Methane levels followed this cycle at first, but about 5000 years ago they began to rebound and currently the concentration is about 275 parts per billion above the previous trends.

According to Ruddiman farming and related activities resulted in large amounts of greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide and methane) being released into the atmosphere at a time when natural cycles of the earth indicated they should have been falling. The result has been an unintended warming cycle that prevented the earth from entering into another ice age [3]. Ruddiman goes as far as to say that if these gases had not been released into the atmosphere, areas in northern Canada such as Hudson Bay and Baffin Island would currently be covered in ice today. The implications of this theory are wide ranging and most certainly worthy of further exploration.

Throughout the record of carbon dioxide and methane emissions there are drops and rises in the amount of concentrations present in the atmosphere. Ruddiman explains these “wiggles” by claiming that they appear at times of major outbreaks of disease such as the bubonic plague in the 1,300’s and the prevalence of old world diseases in the Americas after the arrival of Columbus. Both of these events resulted in large numbers of people dying and the land they once inhabited being reclaimed by the forest. This resulted in increased amounts of carbon dioxide being taken out of the atmosphere, hence causing global temperatures to cool down. Ruddiman claims that the little ice age, starting in the 13th century and ending sometime in the early 19th century was caused by the decreased population and the re-forestation of previously cleared lands as a result from the diseases that killed off so many people.

The last aspect of Ruddiman's discussion of climate change relates to the future of petroleum use on earth. It is commonly known that the world’s supply of fossil fuels is rapidly depleting and even conservative estimates claim that the supply will not last much more than 150-200 more years. Ruddiman claims that when this sources of natural fuels has been depleted, human kind will have to resort to using the large quantities of coal that still exist all over the planet. This, according to Ruddiman, will result in a continued warming trend that will only stop when technology either produces a new source of fuel or figures out a way to separate the carbon dioxide emissions prior to being released into the atmosphere. Ruddiman is quite skeptical of both scenarios in the near future because of the increased costs and technological advancements that would have to be made in such a short time. Eventually carbon and methane emissions will be controlled and lowered a great deal and Ruddiman asserts when this happens the earth will most likely begin an era of cooling temperatures.

[edit] Criticism

Criticism of this book comes from a wide variety of scientists and other academics that claim that more research needs to be done to correlate carbon dioxide and methane emissions to human activity. More specifically criticism has come from Gavin Schmidt a climate modeler at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. Schmidt claims that is it extremely uncertain that early human populations could have had the enormous environmental effects that Ruddiman claims. He also says that recent studies of methane emissions have shown that methane increases over the last 5,000 years could be attributed to the development of the boreal wetlands and major river deltas after the ice from the previous ice age melted and caused the sea level to rise to its current location [4].

18 posted on 12/20/2008 11:55:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So according to these low IQ dumb idiots there has never before in the history of the world been global warming or global cooling except when humans started to roam the world.

That is the most dumb stupid bunch of crap that I have read in my 71 years.

19 posted on 12/20/2008 11:56:35 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I read an article recently that said the mini ice age was caused by vast reforestation in the middle ages when disease cut down on the population and tilled acreage returned to forest. Maybe I shouldn’t post that. Some greenie might get a bright idea!


20 posted on 12/20/2008 12:00:27 PM PST by saganite
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