Importance of the newly located Dunham/Obama Sr divorce decree in proving ineligibility

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[dascallie]

Last night Ed Hale presented the (heretofore, unseen) divorce decree on Plains Radio between Obama's mother and Obama Sr ( her FIRST marriage).

The key bonus in this was the revelation of the specific version of her name in the decree, Stanley Ann D. Obama.

Using this precise name variation ( the abbreviated, initial "D" --instead of 'Dunham', was the cipher that broke open the search), they are claiming to have now located a POE (Port of Entry ) document that Obama's mother provided when she returned to the US with her son--soon after Obama's birth, (allegedly in Kenya).

The POE allegedly includes Obama's birth information/certificate ( British Kenya) as required for entry. Stay tuned for events...see other comments below. -------------------------------------------------- DesertVet Newbie

Posts: 11 Re: Obama-Dunham 1964 DIVORCE DECREE Forthcoming « Reply #53 on: January 02, 2009, 09:39:16 PM » ***********Stanley Ann D. Obama*************

No secret I've been highly skeptical on this whole ordeal. I'm now beginning to think this could very well lead the way to the smoking gun. Until this document she has only been known as "Dunham", no where in public records has Obama's Mothers name read as it does on this divorce decree. I believe the "D" being abreviated has allowed them to locate her records. This has led them to a "port of entry" birth certificate for Barack Obama. She submitted this POE certificate when she came back to the US, and the fact that there is a POE Certificate...proves that he was indeed born out of the country.

This would mean that Obama has never been through Immigration & Naturalization Services in his life, he became a citizen of Indonesia, and never applied for a U.S. passport. If this is the case, then he's not even a citizen, let alone a natural born citizen.

I'm not 100% certain on my assertion of above take on this document issue, but I think it is HIGHLY plausible. I'm still not ready to dance in the streets by any means yet (Yeah, I'm a tough sell). But I am quite intriguied at the moment. Couldn't say that earlier today.

[Admin Moderator]

Please quit pinging us to your squabbles.

[autumnraine]

Ding Dang Do.

Pay attention! We were talking about that it is that way NOW.

[Star Traveler]

If you’ve got a problem and think that some of these crazy ideas that I’ve seen about me, are real — then it would pay to contact the Admin Moderator and have him talk with me, then — so he can find out.

Now..., wouldn’t that make a lot more sense than inventing silly little conspiracy theories like a gaggle of silly little gooses... LOL...

[Star Traveler]

Okay...

[MirandaRietz]

There is absolutely no real-world reason (based on evidence) to think that an 18 year old Dunham even went to Kenya to have her baby. The decree shows that she was in Hawaii when she got married and still in Hawaii when she got divorced.

You are right, there is only hearsay. From Obama's paternal grandmother who says she was there when he was born in Kenya and a affidavit from some preacher who says he was there during her interview.

Then that Kenya person, Ogaego or something like that who says Obama birthplace in Kenya is now and always has been a shrine of some sort. It made it sound like it was Obama's grandmothers home maybe.

As far as the divorce saying Ann was in Hawaii when she married and when she divorced, Washington college says she was there in school around Obama's birth.

From the story I have read, (one of many *wink*) is Stanley Ann went to visit Obama Sr's family in Kenya before Obama was born. Then was not allowed to take a flight home because of the delivery date being too close.

So, then she would fly back after the birth and file for a late birth certificate in Hawaii that was allowed at that time. That type of BC is not natural born citizenship.

If there is any truth to Malcolm X story at all, Stanley Ann could also have flown back and based on her word alone been able to get the same late birth certificate and not be the actual mother.

[John Valentine]

It was on Kamehameha Avenue, just down a ways from the corner of East Manoa Road.

You could well be right about when Neil Abercrombie would have had more opportunity to know Ann Dunham. Barack Sr. would often be present at Charlie’s Tavern on King St., which I where I knew him from in 1960/61, but I never saw Ann Dunham there.

[freepersup]

In spite of the limited flak and sniping at just about every website with a forum, America’s keyboard commandos make me proud. KEEP DIGGING! ;o)

[John Valentine]

We were talking about that it is that way NOW.

Why, for goodness sake, would you waste time on such a thing.

[hoosiermama]

Thanks....

[trumandogz]

So, then she would fly back after the birth and file for a late birth certificate in Hawaii that was allowed at that time.

What evidence do you have that the State of Hawaii permitted out of state or our of country births to be registered in order to obtain a BC in Hawaii?

[Star Traveler]

Instead of inventing silly little theories (which seems to be nothing new here) — don’t you think it’s better to find out directly from the person if it’s true or not... LOL...

You’re sounding exactly like some of those people over at API (African Press International) that Chief Editor Korir fooled.

So, why don’t you just find out — directly — yourselves from me? Is that *too simple* for you?

LOL...

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Oh, a P.S., here — yes, there is real life here... surprise, surprise... (like the Church Lady says, “Ain’t that special!). So, that means I’ll be “taking care of business” (how about that...). Think up what you want to talk to me about (unless that wouldn’t fit into your silly conspiracy theories (y’all do sound real silly, doncha know...). Some things are just “too easy” to do, it seems...

You can even write to the FReep mail — of all things... (and I’ll be answering later on tonight or early tomorrow... “have fun”... LOL...

[MHGinTN]

I'm sure you've heard of Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation for Stanley's behavior are the most likely, though this doesn't exclude other possibilities. A seventeen year old girl gets pregnant by a black man (we don't actually know it was BArack Senior, but that's the simplest explanation since he married the girl!) in Hawai'i, a new state with much mixed racial heritage at the time of statehood, albeit mostly asian and Hawaiian. Her mother is a rising banker personality on the Islands, as real estate is booming. The girl is very bright and needs to get a college education. Are the parents of this girl going to let her fly off to Mombassa with an older blackman who is a college student, knowing she is pregannt with the first grandchild? Would the parents send this girl to Washington state to hide out while the child goes through infanthood, to see just how dark he will turn out? Would the parents continue to have social dealings with the older man who impregnated their seventeen year old daughter? Would the parents of this girl try to cover up the circumstances of this girl's 'unwanted pregnancy'? Would the parents of this child mother still work to get their daughter a college education?

You can sort through that using Occam's Razor ... and you won't find it likely that Stanley Ann traveled to Mombassa while pregnant with Barack Obama senior's child. I believe Barack Obama was born in Hawai'i, from the union of a British subject and an underaged girl. I would argyue that he is not a natural born citizen due to his father's citizenship not being American. The rest is fanciful speculation, but the most significant thing to consider is that Barack Obama knew his father's citizenship limited his status yet he gamed the system to try and get into the presidency anyway because he 'feels' he's entitled despite the Constitution. That's why I deride him as an affirmative action fraud.

[Chief Engineer]

So you knew Madelyn and Stanley when they were living in the home at 2277 Kamehameha Ave., which according to Jr’s own words was the first home they lived in when they moved to HI? I refer to pg 39 of his book when he writes about his father’s visit in 1971 when they took walking tours. “We took short walks past the private landmarks of a family, ... where they showed me my grandparents’ first house in Hawaii, before the one on University Ave.(2234 University Ave.)a house I had never known...” Following what we know about Sr (that he was recuperating from one of his many car accidents, this one in which he had injured his leg which meant he was using a cane), there is no way he and Jr could have walked the 14 mile return trip to a home (the address listed in the birth announcement at 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy located 7 plus miles from UH)we know wasn’t associated with the family. We know that the house at Kamehameha Ave was within walking distance of the apt at S. Beretania St.

[autumnraine]

“The real purpose of this trip, however, may have been different than Stanley Ann Dunham described to her friends. In August, 1961, she enrolled in a University of Washington extension course. Between August, 1961 and March 1962, she enrolled in a total of four extension courses at the University of Washington, earning a total of 20 credits for her work in those courses, no small feat, considering that graduation required 180 credits, and the typical full time student earned 45 credits a year. Neither Box nor Blake has any recollection of Stanley Ann telling them she was enrolling on that same trip in extension courses at the University of Washington. (40)”

http://www.christianfaithandreason.com/obama7.html

I may wrong in assuming that extension courses are correspondence courses.

[mojitojoe]

Electoral college delegates. Something strange here: “I checked the Official U.S. Electoral College website today to get an idea of the votes that have come in to date. I was prompted to do this after entertaining the following questions on my blog wall from Lisa Karres...Here are a few questions for you:.Currently, Obama only has received 170 electoral votes. The deadline for submitting the votes was last week. Congress will meet on January 8th. Can Congress over-ride the Delegates if they did not give Obama his minimum required of 270? I am told this is the first time in history that many Delegates did NOT report in or submit their votes by the deadline. I have been told that Indiana ALL voted “Present” and cast zero votes. Can SCOTUS over-ride the delegates and just make Obama POTUS?”

If this is correct, yes, it is very interesting and I wonder why more importance isn't being made of this fact/

[Palladin]

Good sleuthing!

[MHGinTN]

Obama’s application with the perjury is a found document (Dr. Orly Taitz has a copy, as well as Phil Berg). There is now on court record an expert witness/documents expert who states flatly that the web version of Obama’s COLB is not valid. And there ... wiat, those factors don’t matter to you because you haven’t seen them int he mainstream fifth column enemedia forum, so you don’t think they are significant, why am I wasting time with your ‘opinions’?

[Velveeta]

Somehow after all this time, I missed the fact that you knew Barack Sr. I apologize if you’ve answered this question already:

Did Barack Sr. ever mention to you, that he was married and had a son with Ann?

[trumandogz]

I have been told that Indiana ALL voted “Present” and cast zero votes.

I have been told that the Easter Bunny will bring me a basket full of candy and brightly colored eggs.

[Elsiejay]

But I believe I was told that O’s mother was not legally an adult, that is age 18, at the time of his birth. I do not know that to have been the case, but my memory bank tells me that I have read that, somewhere.
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