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Doctor loses license in live birth abortion case (Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacques Renelique)
CNN ^ | February 7, 2009 | Kim Segal

Posted on 02/07/2009 3:06:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Miami-A doctor's license was revoked Friday in the case of a teenager who planned to have an abortion but instead gave birth to a baby she says was killed when clinic staffers put it into a plastic bag and threw it in the trash. The doctor, Pierre Jean-Jacques Renelique, was not present when the baby was born, but the Florida Medical Board upheld Department of Health allegations that he falsified medical records, inappropriately delegated tasks to unlicensed personnel and committed malpractice.

Joseph Harrison, the attorney representing Renelique at the license revocation hearing in Tampa, said Renelique has not decided whether to appeal.

The state attorney's office, meanwhile, said its criminal investigation into the incident is ongoing and no charges have been filed. A fetus born alive cannot be put to death even if its mother intended to have an abortion, police said when the incident occurred in 2006.

The baby's mother, Sycloria Williams, sued Renelique, the clinic and its staff in January, seeking damages.

She alleges in her suit that "she witnessed the murder of her daughter" and said she "sustained severe emotional distress, shock and psychic trauma which have resulted in discernible bodily injury."

"This is not about a pot of gold," said Tom Pennekamp, her attorney. "What this is about is right and wrong and making a statement, making sure it doesn't happen to other young women."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionists; baipa; bhoabortion; bloodlustforchildren; bornalive; infantacide; infanticide; malpractice; moralabsolutes; murder; prolife
So now we live in Communist China?
1 posted on 02/07/2009 3:06:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Loss of license is insufficient for murder.


2 posted on 02/07/2009 3:10:50 PM PST by newberger (Barack is NOT my savior!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

she was about to murder her anyway~

None the less, I am glad the doctor lost his license. Should have lost his life too!


3 posted on 02/07/2009 3:12:26 PM PST by pollywog (I will lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help. My help comes from the Lord...Ps 121)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Holy macaroni and cheese. That doctor stole Governor Blagojevich's hair!
4 posted on 02/07/2009 3:15:28 PM PST by Krankor (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me.)
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To: Krankor
That doctor stole Governor Blagojevich's hair!

That's the lawyer.

5 posted on 02/07/2009 3:16:59 PM PST by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: Krankor

The doctor’s on the right. The left is the lawyer.


6 posted on 02/07/2009 3:17:48 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II, overdue.)
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To: pollywog

She alleges in her suit that “she witnessed the murder of her daughter” and said she “sustained severe emotional distress, shock and psychic trauma which have resulted in discernible bodily injury.”

The mother went for an abortion with the intent of killing her child, but the doctor failed to kill the child until after it was born and now the mother who wanted the child dead is suing because the child is dead? I’m confused.


7 posted on 02/07/2009 3:18:14 PM PST by nobama08
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To: pollywog

She alleges in her suit that “she witnessed the murder of her daughter” and said she “sustained severe emotional distress, shock and psychic trauma which have resulted in discernible bodily injury.”

The mother went for an abortion with the intent of killing her child, but the doctor failed to kill the child until after it was born and now the mother who wanted the child dead is suing because the child is dead? I’m confused.


8 posted on 02/07/2009 3:18:16 PM PST by nobama08
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, Dr’s seem to be able to easily reestablish their license in another state since like everything else with government, it’s poorly run. Hopefully a 2nd degree murder will follow...


9 posted on 02/07/2009 3:21:49 PM PST by uncommonsense
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To: AnnaZ; 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Hee hee. Well, at least Blago’s hair is so famous, you immediately knew which one I was talking about!


10 posted on 02/07/2009 3:22:46 PM PST by Krankor (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The doctor is probably Haitian, and I imagine the girl is, too. It’s the usual situation of somebody exploiting his immigrant community, probably with money straight from the Ford Foundation.


11 posted on 02/07/2009 3:22:57 PM PST by livius
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To: nobama08; cgk; Salvation; NYer; wagglebee
The mother went for an abortion with the intent of killing her child, but the doctor failed to kill the child until after it was born and now the mother who wanted the child dead is suing because the child is dead? I’m confused.

It's our culture. The whole mindset of "It's my body! It's just tissue!" has been promoted ad hoc just so it's easier to go to the clinic.

Course, that only makes the reality all the more jarring when you realize it wasn't just 'tissue'. I think that was the case here.

12 posted on 02/07/2009 3:23:42 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Halo 3: Recon - Due out in Fall 2009!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A fetus born alive cannot be put to death even if its mother intended to have an abortion...

Which is EXACTLY what Obama voted for when he was in the State Senate in Illinois.

13 posted on 02/07/2009 3:30:36 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (Obama's not my president, and Blagojevich is not my governor.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet for this update.
A doctor's license was revoked Friday in the case of a teenager who planned to have an abortion but instead gave birth to a baby she says was killed when clinic staffers put it into a plastic bag and threw it in the trash. The doctor, Pierre Jean-Jacques Renelique, was not present when the baby was born, but the Florida Medical Board upheld Department of Health allegations that he falsified medical records, inappropriately delegated tasks to unlicensed personnel and committed malpractice.
Reality TV's next big thing -- "Abortion Clinic USA". Of course, it'll be used to beat the drum in favor of abortion...
14 posted on 02/07/2009 3:30:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: uncommonsense
Unfortunately, Dr’s seem to be able to easily reestablish their license in another state

Also, I think the loss of medical (or legal) licenses are temporary in most states.

The staff worker who dropped the live baby into a bag should be arrested for murder too.

15 posted on 02/07/2009 3:32:22 PM PST by Jean S
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leave liberals alone in this area guys. They’re exterminating their own kind. It’s a “survival of the fittest” type thing where abortion is concerned. Christian Conservatives and their children do not murder their offspring. If our liberal enemies want to kill their own... let them.


16 posted on 02/07/2009 3:38:51 PM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mzzzzzzz Williams got what she paid for....a dead baby. Now she’s suing?


17 posted on 02/07/2009 3:42:55 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: nobama08

She had an epiphany and foresaw the miraculous potential for a big lawsuit.


18 posted on 02/07/2009 3:56:11 PM PST by Irene Adler (Is it possible to be a socially conservative anarchist?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even by the accepted laws and court rulings in existence today there was a murder and, according to this report, the doctor concealed it.

There is criminal culpability here in my opinion.


19 posted on 02/07/2009 4:02:30 PM PST by festus (Politics makes for strange bedfellows)
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To: The Anti-One

I understand your point about letting liberals abort their own, but Christians should always fight all abortions. In the eyes of God, these defenseless little children are all potential Christians and deserve our protection.


20 posted on 02/07/2009 4:12:48 PM PST by reaganbooster
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To: festus

53% of the voters in the US (let’s not talk about vote fraud) obviously approve of this procedure as a woman’s right.


21 posted on 02/07/2009 4:20:26 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is it about murder that liberals don’t understand?? IT IS THE WILLFUL TAKING OF A HUMAN LIFE unless it is on the battlefield or for self defense. I hardly think a newborn baby represents a threat.


22 posted on 02/07/2009 4:21:30 PM PST by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: nobama08

The mother went for an abortion with the intent of killing her child, but the doctor failed to kill the child until after it was born and now the mother who wanted the child dead is suing because the child is dead? I’m confused.


“This is not about a pot of gold,” said Tom Pennekamp, her attorney

There’s your answer. She saw a pot of gold.


23 posted on 02/07/2009 4:46:05 PM PST by eaglestar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t worry. Obama will protect this guy. Remember, he voted against making the Boran alive Infants protection Act, which would have outlawed this very practice.


24 posted on 02/07/2009 4:47:33 PM PST by TBP
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To: nobama08
The mother went for an abortion with the intent of killing her child, but the doctor failed to kill the child until after it was born and now the mother who wanted the child dead is suing because the child is dead? I’m confused.

Indeed... As am I, but neither of us are more "confused" than this "mother" apparently is...

the infowarrior

25 posted on 02/07/2009 9:54:58 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Jean S
The staff worker who dropped the live baby into a bag should be arrested for murder too.

Oh absolutely!

How in the world can any thinking person do such a thing?

26 posted on 02/08/2009 4:27:34 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: reaganbooster
Wrong. If one wants to kill the children that God gave them the responsibility to raise then that is no one else's business. Just as Jesus Christ told Peter to put away the sword so too should we Christians trust God and let Him defend His children.

Radical I know but you can't show me one place in scripture where God's people are instructed to interfere in other people's family business. Likewise those families should not force me to pay for their ungodly, unholy decisions.

If a liberal tramp wants to murder her child... let her. Then enforce whatever laws society has to punish a murderer and implement them on all that took part in the torture and execution of another human being.

JMHO

PS... {Mark 10:18b} there is none good (innocent) but one, that is, God. -- {Romans 3:23} For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; -- {Exodus 20:5b} I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; -- {John 3:3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. (This includes babies)

27 posted on 02/08/2009 5:50:02 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: The Anti-One

I certainly love yur passion on this issue, but I think we will have to agree to disagree.

My Christian beliefs tell me that abortion is murder. If you lived next door to this same liberal mother and she was was threatening to kill her child in the back yard, would you just let it happen? I won’t speak for you, but I would physically intervene or call police. I would feel pretty bad if I watched this mother kill her child right in front of me. At this point, the mothers politics don’t mean squat to me. Abortion is no different, except that it is done in a private legal medical setting. The Bible says to help your neighbor. It doesn’t say only help those people who believe in God. Our Christian ideals and beliefs of helping every human being makes us unique. I don’t think God put us on this earth to ignore people(or babies) that are in physical or moral danger. Some of the most committed Christians in the world are those liberal
tramps who somehow, through the grace of God, were convinced the errors of their ways. We shold never stop striving to reach those souls.

I agree with you that I hate this current system. I truly despise it. But, if we don’t oppose all abortions as morally wrong, we will never have the chance to overturn the current liberal laws.


28 posted on 02/08/2009 6:27:45 AM PST by reaganbooster
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Ok... Here we are, both calling ourselves Christians, both hating the murder of babies but for me.... I personally hate the murder of anyone and like sin, in my mind there is NO degree of sin any greater than another except for blaspheme of the Holy Ghost. Murdering either an adult or a child is equally just as morally repulsive as the other and society has laws to deal with those that commit the crimes.
My issue is do I, as a Christian, have any moral responsibility to stop people from sinning? Who gives me the authority to step in and violate another person's free and sovereign will? Certainly not God. If God were into violating people's free and sovereign will no one would ever sin.
No... Christians like me are "in the world but not of the world." It's not my job to force anyone to accept God. My job is to "preach the gospel" and let God's word do it's work. I've learned to Trust God.

Now... I asked for scriptural support for forcing our enemies to stop killing themselves.
Do you have any?
29 posted on 02/08/2009 6:56:09 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: The Anti-One

Love thy neighbor. I interpret this basic bible passage as helping my neighbor in need. Yes, that means saving his or her life or the life of others in their family. I think this is pretty basic and clear. I’m not forcing them to stop killing themselves or believe in God but I should make an attempt to convince them that there is another way.


30 posted on 02/08/2009 7:06:08 AM PST by reaganbooster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This entire sick mindset befuddles me. Besides the obvious incredulity that a baby would be put in a bag alive and thrown in the garbage (which is the focus of the story), you have a girl who was trying to kill her baby who is now upset, and seeking damages because her baby was killed in a different manner than she wanted it killed.


31 posted on 02/08/2009 7:13:21 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (You tell me that you've got everything you want, And your bird can sing, But you don't get me)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has Obama come to the defense of the murderous doctor yet?


32 posted on 02/08/2009 7:15:24 AM PST by comps4spice
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To: reaganbooster

Do what makes you happy.


33 posted on 02/08/2009 7:25:06 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: The Anti-One

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

I believe that once a mother decides to have an abortion, the child is an orphan. I don’t think allowing our “enemies” to kill their own is in any way justifiable before God. I understand your argument of free and sovreign will, but to allow murder of children is to take away the will of that child, who we don’t what he/she will decide to do with their own life.


34 posted on 02/08/2009 9:43:17 AM PST by 3xIraqVet
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To: 3xIraqVet
James 1:27 - Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. (KJV)

Revamped scriptures don't work with me. You all can do what you want but know this. God demonstrated for us how He handled others murdering others. He let it happen and then administered His just judgments.
I wouldn't be here if abortion were legal 80 years ago and neither would any of my seven siblings or my four children or my grandchild. I hate abortion but I know God and His written word. Even in your revamed "New International Version" of the Bible this scripture does NOT tell us stop women from murdering their children. What it does tell us however is to not be soiled by their deeds. We are NOT to partake in any way which for me means I am not to assist them in their debauchery in any way including paying for it.

You want to stand up against Congress' desire to make me pay for the murder of children I am with you all the way but I'll not stop someone from inflicting harm upon their own.

Sorry!

35 posted on 02/08/2009 10:47:39 AM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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