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Requiring Proof of Motor Vehicle Insurance to Purchase Fuel[Hawaii]
Capitol.Hawaii.Gov ^ | 19 Mar 2009 | Hawaii.gov

Posted on 04/04/2009 7:23:09 AM PDT by BGHater

REQUESTING THE INSURANCE COMMISSIONER TO STUDY THE REQUIRING PROOF OF MOTOR VEHICLE INSURANCE TO PURCHASE FUEL.

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WHEREAS, one suggested approach to removing uninsured drivers from the road is to deny them access to purchase gasoline at gas stations, by issuing motor vehicle insurance cards to insured motorists which would allow them to purchase gas; and

REQUESTING THE INSURANCE COMMISSIONER TO STUDY THE REQUIRING PROOF OF MOTOR VEHICLE INSURANCE TO PURCHASE FUEL[PDF]


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1 posted on 04/04/2009 7:23:10 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Chains We Can Believe In!


2 posted on 04/04/2009 7:24:21 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: BGHater

Thats nothing, soon Onstar will kill the engine if you are late paying the miles driven highway taxes.


3 posted on 04/04/2009 7:25:11 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: BGHater

...But they won’t require the Pres__ent to prove he was born there.


4 posted on 04/04/2009 7:25:28 AM PDT by Emile ("If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" -- Unknown)
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To: BGHater

Fascism with a happy face.


5 posted on 04/04/2009 7:25:46 AM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, your surrender your rights.)
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To: La Lydia

Oh that gives me a photoshop idea.


6 posted on 04/04/2009 7:25:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: BGHater

No worries, this will never pass.

Think of the impact this would have on illegal immigrants.

Congress and the courts (and the ACLU) would never do anything to disadvantage them.


7 posted on 04/04/2009 7:26:07 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: Eye of Unk

Yep! Or driving outside the area you were assigned to drive in.


8 posted on 04/04/2009 7:27:27 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: BGHater

In Maryland our licenses have magnetic coding with our age so liquor stores can read them. Yet MD give licences to illegals , on purpose


9 posted on 04/04/2009 7:28:26 AM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We stand for nothing but we're not as bad as Pelosi !")
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To: G Larry

Who says illegals can’t get insurance? Or fake insurance? Or cancel their insurance a week after getting it?


10 posted on 04/04/2009 7:28:43 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre
Ineffective political argument.

It will NOT pass.

11 posted on 04/04/2009 7:31:11 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: BGHater

So the employees, who can’t make change for a even dollar amount are going to verify, my auto insurance.......... brilliant idea.


12 posted on 04/04/2009 7:32:11 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: G Larry

Barry isn’t asking permission anymore, he takes what he wants.


13 posted on 04/04/2009 7:33:44 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: BGHater

Right, the state can’t or won’t enforce the laws, so let’s make a private business responsible for enforcement and not pay that business for doing the job. Turn that convenience store part time clerk into a DMV enforcer and Insurance Commission investigator.

Here in Milwaukee, when a deadly fight happens outside a bar or near a gas station parking lot, the police and the alderman blame the business for not enforcing the law outside on the public way. Their remedy is to pull the bar’s license or restrict the gas station’s hours of operation.


14 posted on 04/04/2009 7:33:54 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Eye of Unk

For only $150 I will disable your Onstar.


15 posted on 04/04/2009 7:34:10 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Red_Devil 232; Eye of Unk

Funny you would mention onstar controlling the vehicle - I’m a big Dr.Who fan (british scifi show) and this last season they had an episode where almost every car in the world had a directional device installed. No one thought a thing until it started giving directions toward large bodies of water, locking the doors so you couldn’t get out, or filling the cars with a deadly gas....... it was aliens taking over the planet.


16 posted on 04/04/2009 7:34:46 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Serkit 3/19/09 "Slow Joe needs to stay out of the deep end of the Think Tank")
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To: BGHater

I don’t like government plans, but since about 30% of Texas drivers do not have insurance (including someone who hit a colleague of mine this week), I am willing to at least study this idea further.

Meanwhile, here is my solution to the uninsured motorist. When they are stopped for an infraction, check the insurance. If fake, impound the vechile and make the motorist walk.


17 posted on 04/04/2009 7:35:34 AM PDT by PetroniDE (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, Comrade Zero Gotta Go !!)
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To: BGHater

Or, if you’d rather, you could take the Mark of the Beast. Then you could buy (or sell), gasoline (or anything else).


18 posted on 04/04/2009 7:37:24 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: PetroniDE

Obama will fix the problem. Instant free government car insurance to anyone that has an accident without insurance.


19 posted on 04/04/2009 7:38:47 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Eye of Unk
soon Onstar will kill the engine if you are late paying the miles driven highway taxes.

I heard some GM bigwig on the news talking about their future car plans.....

.....He said they were building the car that people wanted.

Onstar was one of the "popular" features.

Are we really that stupid? I'm not, I already have a cell phone. I want my car to do what I tell it to do, not what someone else tells it to do.

20 posted on 04/04/2009 7:42:29 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I already have the speed pulse wire and mike disconnected on mine, plus a new upgraded sound system thats not tied in to it.

Of course pulling the fuse would work but on some new cars it affects the operation of the engine controls, limit the input and degrade its wireless connection.


21 posted on 04/04/2009 7:43:04 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: PetroniDE
"Meanwhile, here is my solution to the uninsured motorist. When they are stopped for an infraction, check the insurance. If fake, impound the vechile and make the motorist walk."

They do that in certain parts of Texas now. As far as showing proof of insurance when fueling up, not a good idea if you like to pay at the pump. Of for station owners.

22 posted on 04/04/2009 7:43:23 AM PDT by nralife (Sarah doesn't know it's a damn show! She thinks it's a damn fight!)
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To: Tarpon

23 posted on 04/04/2009 7:43:54 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
For only $150 I will disable your Onstar.

How much to disable the nagging wife sitting next to me when I drive?

24 posted on 04/04/2009 7:45:15 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: BGHater
REQUIRING PROOF OF MOTOR VEHICLE INSURANCE TO PURCHASE FUEL

So I will need motor vehicle insurance for my chain saw or lawn mower?

Things are rapidly spinning OUT OF CONTROL in government these days.

25 posted on 04/04/2009 7:45:19 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: mamelukesabre

Obama will fix the problem. Instant free government car insurance to anyone that has an accident without insurance.

So now I get to pay for uninsured motorist coverage twice (once for myself and once for this program)? Maybe I should cancel my insurance and “take my chances”. Oh wait, I am a conservative; don’t get that benefit.


26 posted on 04/04/2009 7:45:39 AM PDT by PetroniDE (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, Comrade Zero Gotta Go !!)
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To: Girlene

What does this mean for the future of lawnmowers? Sir, I need to see your license and proof of insurance before you can fill that can. And what’s with all the beer? :-)


27 posted on 04/04/2009 7:47:30 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: BGHater

this would be awesome in texas!
would keeep all the illegals off the road.
damn if those aholes can’t drive


28 posted on 04/04/2009 7:47:39 AM PDT by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: PetroniDE

I’m just being logical. If government will provide health insurance to those that don’t have it, then why not car insurance too?


29 posted on 04/04/2009 7:47:46 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: BGHater
I'm not so sure this is a bad idea, but I'd have to give it some thought.

One of the biggest problems any state faces in dealing with uninsured motorists is that many of them are so far "off the charts" that they don't even have the most basic documentation required to drive a motor vehicle on a public road.

Think of an illegal alien without a driver's license who drives a heap of junk with fake or stolen plates, no registration, no insurance, etc. This person represents a tangible risk to other drivers -- and yet is pretty much beyong the reach of the law in the event he is involved in an accident that causes damage to property and/or injury to a person.

New York City used to deal with these knuckleheads by simply seizing the cars (the rationale being that the driver would consider the loss of the vehicle a substantial loss). All that did was motivate these creatures to drive older and crummier cars.

30 posted on 04/04/2009 7:48:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: nralife

The idea has a lot of holes, but at least someone is looking at the uninsured motorist problem.


31 posted on 04/04/2009 7:49:05 AM PDT by PetroniDE (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, Comrade Zero Gotta Go !!)
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To: Eye of Unk
"Thats nothing, soon Onstar will kill the engine if you are late paying the miles driven highway taxes."

One fuse removes Onstar. I know because mine is dead.

32 posted on 04/04/2009 7:49:22 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: mamelukesabre

so the illegal is going to buy insurance for the days he needs gas?


33 posted on 04/04/2009 7:49:47 AM PDT by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: mamelukesabre

Mandatory car insurance is the easiest thing in the world..just ask the people who finance your car. If the insurance is renewed, cancelled or changed the insurance company notifies the lien holder.
We need a system that has you get non-cancelable one year insurance when you get your new tags. No insurance no tags..no cancel. But the Rats fight that..no wiggle room for the “poor” to cancel.


34 posted on 04/04/2009 7:50:45 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: SteamShovel; Girlene

Oh noes!!!! “Chainsaw Wielding Lawnmower Gang Wreaks Havoc...”


35 posted on 04/04/2009 7:52:29 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: SteamShovel

No, you will need to file the proper paperwork with the DOT to get an exemption that gives you an allowance of fuel per week...all for a special fee of course...and higher tax rates to cover the additional government regulations required to keep track of your lawn mower fuel for you.


36 posted on 04/04/2009 7:53:01 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mad_as_he$$
"For only $150 I will disable your Onstar."

Just a fuse on mine. I pulled the one on mine many months ago.

37 posted on 04/04/2009 7:53:09 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: TV Dinners

No. he buys insurance just long enough to get his proof of insurance card. Then he cancels his insurance. As long as he has proof of insurance, he doesn’t need insurance.


38 posted on 04/04/2009 7:54:06 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Oldexpat

I would fight that too. I don’t want big brother keeping tabs on my bills...wether I pay them on time or whatnot.


39 posted on 04/04/2009 7:56:00 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: SteamShovel
So I will need motor vehicle insurance for my chain saw or lawn mower?

No...but I expect to see a question that asks how many gas powered tools I have...on the next census.

And how many pets. And what kind.

We will be taxed on these...by the Feds. It's coming...........

40 posted on 04/04/2009 7:56:07 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Emile; BGHater
..But they won’t require the Pres__ent to prove he was born there.

Or photo ID's to vote.

41 posted on 04/04/2009 7:56:57 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Proud2BeRight

Now the we have Government Motors they will hardwire a system into every brainbox on new cars that will tattletell if its disconnected or tampered with, commercial trucks have this system already in use, a smaller compact system will be on cars eventually.

Highways will have sensors that will notify an authority if your car doesn’t communicate or is feeding information of the type that says the care is illegally on the road. Over the road truckers have been using this for years.

First it will be on tollways, then interstates.

And we will not have to wait for the far future where we get into our car and it tells us we have only so many driving points available, it will be forced upon us by the future fascist leaders of America.


42 posted on 04/04/2009 7:59:43 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: RicocheT
Right, the state can’t or won’t enforce the laws, so let’s make a private business responsible for enforcement and not pay that business for doing the job. Turn that convenience store part time clerk into a DMV enforcer and Insurance Commission investigator.

They are already enforcing state laws about alcohol and cigarettes so nothing new

43 posted on 04/04/2009 8:03:23 AM PDT by mouser
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To: BGHater

sounds OK to me


44 posted on 04/04/2009 8:07:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (We live in interesting times: now the entire IRS works for a tax evader)
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To: bigheadfred

LOL. More insanity. I wish some of these lawmakers would spend some time trying to get rid of some of the inane laws that have been forced on the people vs. trying to outdo each other coming up with new ones that aren’t well thought out.


45 posted on 04/04/2009 8:10:12 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: BGHater

Used to have to prove proof of insurance in Georgia to renew one’s tag. Now we don’t.

How about having the tag belong to the person who initially purchases it and verifies citizenship and insurance at that time and the tag must travel with the person from car to car. And increase fines and add jail time to someone who steals a car tag.

But better yet . . . why not just ENFORCE THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS???

Oh, that’s too simple, isn’t it?

Impeach The Bowing Clown Barry 0bama!


46 posted on 04/04/2009 8:13:32 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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To: Girlene

Hold it just a sec....My cat, who I know doesn’t have a license or insurance, has somehow gotten hold of my chainsaw...


47 posted on 04/04/2009 8:13:57 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: TV Dinners
so the illegal is going to buy insurance for the days he needs gas?

Watch for auto insurance branch offices opening up at a gas station near you soon.

48 posted on 04/04/2009 8:19:25 AM PDT by OBXWanderer
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To: Oldexpat

Oregon requires proof of insurance to get a new tag.
Too, for the last approximately 15 years, proof of insurance has been required if stopped by a cop.
If that can’t be proven, the car is left by the side of the road.

However, until recently, illegals have been allowed to get driver’s licenses.
That was changed when the federal government deemed Oregon to be a national security risk.

Oregon is a whacky state.


49 posted on 04/04/2009 8:25:49 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Most Effective Obama Critics: Charles Dow and Edward Jones" ~ John McCormack ~ The Weekly Standard)
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To: BGHater

I wouldn’t mind that here in Texas to get some of the illegals off the road for just a little while.

The “thrill” of being hit by some beaner who doesn’t claim to speak a word of english and has no insurance is not to be forgotten.

Of course it would only work for a week or so before one of their buddies somewhere would counterfit the cards like they do the insurance certificates.


50 posted on 04/04/2009 8:27:39 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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