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1 posted on 06/04/2009 5:59:45 AM PDT by epow
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To: epow

And so it begins.


2 posted on 06/04/2009 6:00:55 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: epow

The NRA is calling for judicial legislation. Shameful.


4 posted on 06/04/2009 6:05:17 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: epow

Thats odd, it seems like they think the first amendment and it’s “no establishment of religion” clause, sure as hell applies to cities and states.

And it seems like 5th amendment cases are routinely enforced against municipal and state police departments.


6 posted on 06/04/2009 6:08:24 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: epow
This Seventh Circuit opinion upholds current bans on the possession of handguns in Chicago and Oak Park, Illinois.

This after the US Supreme Court Heller decision, unfreakinbelievable!

The USSC needs to not only reverse this decision, it needs to come down hard on the 7th circuit judges who ignored their decision to drive this point home to the hardest heads in the federal and state judiciary, the 2nd protects the people from ALL governments at EVERY level that try to disarm them.

12 posted on 06/04/2009 6:16:17 AM PDT by epow ("Never take council of your fears" .....General Thomas "Stonewall " Jackson)
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To: epow
Lock and load!

MOLWN LABE!

38 posted on 06/04/2009 6:36:02 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: epow
I would think there is a possibility the USSC wont take this case. They might wait for another circuit or two rule on the issue...
42 posted on 06/04/2009 6:40:38 AM PDT by montanajoe
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The NRA strongly disagrees with yesterday's decision issued by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, holding that the Second Amendment does not apply to state and local governments.

What???? I ain't no constitutional scholar but did the SCOTUS recently rule *exactly* the opposite in the Heller case?

Lawyers...enlighten me here.

45 posted on 06/04/2009 6:42:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: epow
but did the SCOTUS=but didn't the SCOTUS
48 posted on 06/04/2009 6:45:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: epow

I’ll ask this [rhetorical] question again: Why is it so all fired important at this point in the nation’s history to chip away at our basic right of self defense?

Why is it so hard to understand that restricting the rights of the Law-abiding only empowers the criminal element of society?


123 posted on 06/04/2009 9:14:16 AM PDT by HammerT (Buy them so they CAN'T Ban them!)
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So the Seventh Circuit said the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to the states and local governments.

The Heller decision defined the right of ALL Americans to self defense under the 2nd. Nordyke v. Alameda County decision by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, basically incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

So what is missing from this conversation? The NRA is doing exactly what it's supposed to do, defend the right of free Americans to possess the tools for self defense.

The various courts have already defined it as an individual right, not a collective one. And the Ninth's decision says there cannot be selective laws from one place to another.

So why is this debate on this thread going any further?

251 posted on 06/04/2009 11:14:33 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: epow

I’m glad I live in a state that has enacted robust constitutional protections that make such opinions irrelevant where I live. Heller gives me the space I need from the federal government. At the state and local levels I don’t think it’s a good idea to have to rely on any branch of the federal government to step in to define and defend my right to keep and bear arms.


332 posted on 06/04/2009 12:36:18 PM PDT by behzinlea
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NRA Appeals Seventh Circuit Ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court

“The Seventh Circuit got it wrong. As the Supreme Court said in last year's landmark Heller decision, the Second Amendment is an individual right that ‘belongs to all Americans'. Therefore, we are taking our case to the highest court in the land,” said Chris W. Cox, NRA chief lobbyist.

An excerpt from their news release

355 posted on 06/04/2009 12:56:35 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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Advice to the reader:
you can cruise though reading this thread a lot quicker if
you ignore any message that is either to or from mojave
and you will not miss anything important.


427 posted on 06/04/2009 4:06:07 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (When the time comes, right thinking men will know what to do.)
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To: epow

The 7th circuit is flagging their nose at the SCOTUS.


439 posted on 06/04/2009 4:40:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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