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Fake Obama Kenya birth certificate?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate ^ | 08/02/2009

Posted on 08/02/2009 4:56:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

And then one of our moderators spotted this:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate

It has several clues, but also there's this question:

Who is E. F. Lavender?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=earth+friendly+lavender&aq=f&oq=&aqi

Earth Friendly Lavender detergent?


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To: Jim Robinson
1. It's dated Feb 14, 1964 and had the designation Republic of Kenya. However that designation was not official until December 1964.
2. It’s number 44 O 47 is a bit coincidental with 44th President Obama 47th President
3. The name EF Lavender. Earth Friendly Lavender is a detergent
4. Mombasa did not become part of Kenya until 1963. It used to be part of  Zanzibar.
5. The Coast General Hospital is actually called the Coast Provincial General Hospital
6. There are unconfirmed statements that women who would give birth in 1961 would go to the “Lady Grigg Maternity Hospital” which was later rolled into the Coast Provincial General hospital.
781 posted on 08/03/2009 8:42:04 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: dools007; Carry_Okie
Hence, a Russian girl who’s father was a KGB guy at the old USSR’s embassy in Washington, is a US citizen.

Not if both parents were embassy staff. The 14th amendment is supposed to exclude “persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.” However, if the mother was a US citizen, then the baby is also.

782 posted on 08/03/2009 8:42:12 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: Danae; Plutarch; All
Don't know if everyone here has seen this but there is a pic of an Eric Lavender here, about a third of the way down the page

Arthur and Margaret, Eric Lavender and Ron and Gretel Hibbert with some of the pastors at the conference.

783 posted on 08/03/2009 8:42:36 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: SeattleBruce

No, my theory is *IF* the document proves to be fake, the person who spouted off all the reasons why is likely the one who forged it. Get it? Good.


784 posted on 08/03/2009 8:43:22 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: concerned about politics

ALL chatter about Obomas legitimacy gets people to join the Birther movement, because Oboma could put an end to it immediately, and he’s not doing it. The question arises: “Why not?”
++++++++++++++

True true! And we’re also curious about these items that Bammy has chosen to hide:

his kindergarten records,
his Punahou school records,
his Occidental College records,
his Columbia University records,
his Columbia thesis,
his Harvard Law School records,
his Harvard Law Review articles,
his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago,
his passport,
his medical records,
his files from his years as an Illinois state senator,
his Illinois State Bar Association records,
any baptism records, and
his adoption records.

Yeah, we’re *NUTJOBS* alright...LOLOLOLOL


785 posted on 08/03/2009 8:45:29 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: DJ MacWoW

If it turns out that Obama is not a natural born citizen and this is determined in a court of law dispite the elite’s and Obama’s best effort, there will have been a big conspiracy between the legal, political and media elite to deceive the public and disobey the rule of law.

So I guess us questioning Obama’s constitutional qualification even though the political parties and the media has told us “it is settled science so shut up” means we are holding the honesty and respect of these authorities as suspect. We are suspecting a conspiracy...


786 posted on 08/03/2009 8:45:59 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Are you aware that everything in your post has been vetted and debunked, with the exception of #6?


787 posted on 08/03/2009 8:48:02 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: LouieFisk; Mount Athos

See no. 5160 on the long thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?q=1&;page=5151

A newspaper article from the Times of London, Oct. 9, 1963, using the term Republic of Kenya. This was the moment that Kenyatta’s party announced their intent to take the country independent, to reject the transitional form of government. It lead to the Dec. 12, 1963, constitution.

They considered themselves a republic from the point at which they declared their full independence from England (while remaining in the Commonwealth). England did not fight this declaration of independence. It was something of a slap at England since “republic” had always had anti-monarchical overtones, hence most other independent countries in the Commonwealth opted for Dominion or Commonwealth. But Kenyatta and his backers clearly chose “Republic” at the moment they announced their independence in Oct. 1963.

No, the Dec. 1963 Constitution did not use the term. But the term was being used by the leadership of independent Kenya from October 1963 onward. It is not unreasonable to assume that forms were printed with “Republic of Kenya” on them during 1964.

Whether this document is authentic or not, we still do not know, but the use of “Republic” does not prove it false.


788 posted on 08/03/2009 8:48:34 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: mel
102181 sealed it for me fake of well

I must be blind..........Where is this on the BC?

789 posted on 08/03/2009 8:50:16 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: L_Patriot

“Orly is an intelligent person. So either is so desperate to get BO that she will grasp at anything or she has become a full-fledged BO Agent.”

Did you talk about the document with Orly? Please share your insider informantion with us.


790 posted on 08/03/2009 8:50:39 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Las Vegas Ron

That’s what you think. The BC that Orly Taitz has in her possession is a fake.


791 posted on 08/03/2009 8:52:20 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: meadsjn

That is a good point. Also when Bill Clinton was asked if he thinks obama is experienced enough to be Prez he said “if he qualifies, he is eligible to run for President.” No matter what the truth about his document, Obama needs to prove he is qualified to be President and stop all the gamemanship with the constitution. The elite need to force him to stop gaming the Nation.


792 posted on 08/03/2009 8:54:29 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: OXENinFLA
I must be blind..........Where is this on the BC?

You're not blind, that number was posted by a troll who later admitted he goofed"

It's suppose to correlate with the alphabet, A=1, B=2 etc. O B A M A, but as you will see it's wrong

793 posted on 08/03/2009 8:54:54 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: Houghton M.
They considered themselves a republic from the point at which they declared their full independence from England (while remaining in the Commonwealth). England did not fight this declaration of independence. It was something of a slap at England since “republic” had always had anti-monarchical overtones, hence most other independent countries in the Commonwealth opted for Dominion or Commonwealth. But Kenyatta and his backers clearly chose “Republic” at the moment they announced their independence in Oct. 1963.

I agree, it's possible a bureaucracy enthusiastic for the Republic changed the letterhead early. The only way to tell is if someone produces some other BCs issued around the same time.

794 posted on 08/03/2009 8:56:20 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: callisto

Wait a minute. The after birthers are claiming that since we are demanding documentation from Obama, there is no opposition to his socialism! How did they all find out about Obama’s socialism when this natural born question is being asked?!

Something is fishy!/s/


795 posted on 08/03/2009 8:58:16 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: BigSkyFreeper
That hasn't been proved yet one way or the other, so far everything is holding up.

Your post has been debunked.

I'm not saying one way or the other and am willing to wait till all of the facts are in.

There's one thing for sure, It looks a hell of a lot more authentic then what zer0 put out there, that you have to admit

796 posted on 08/03/2009 8:58:18 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I just received an e-mail selling replica Rolex watches. They look really, really real, but they are fake. Same thing can be said for this purported Kenyan birth certificate. I understand there is a similar one for Princess Dianas son!


797 posted on 08/03/2009 8:58:46 AM PDT by mono
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To: Las Vegas Ron
You're not blind, that number was posted by a troll who later admitted he goofed" It's suppose to correlate with the alphabet, A=1, B=2 etc. O B A M A, but as you will see it's wrong

I thought it was something like that... & I think I ran over that post in the 5K thread.....IIRC it was right after someone pointed out the 47044.

798 posted on 08/03/2009 8:59:55 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: SaraJohnson

come on honest judge!


799 posted on 08/03/2009 9:00:42 AM PDT by luvenbsh
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To: SaraJohnson

I wonder how long it is going to take to get this moving through the courts. I just love a good ole conspiracy!!!


800 posted on 08/03/2009 9:00:45 AM PDT by luvenbsh
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