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Dinosaur Soft Tissues: They're Real!
ICR ^ | August 11, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 08/14/2009 5:28:11 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Paleontologist Mary Schweitzer’s discoveries of soft blood vessels, proteins, various blood cells, and even DNA inside fossilized dinosaur bones have been met with extreme skepticism from the scientific community. It has been well established that such biological structures and molecules should not last beyond a few tens of thousands of years, and could not possibly survive millions of years. So why are they there?

Scientists have made multiple attempts to debunk Schweitzer’s findings...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; catastrophism; catholic; christian; creation; evolution; intelligentdesign; maryschweitzer; notasciencetopic; propellerbeanie; science
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To: vpintheak

I noticed that in Sitka as well. Some lady told me that the biggest employer was the government in one form or another. You point about the out of towners working in the tourist spots is also spot-on. Many of the people working the souvineer stores were from out of state. Indeed, even our floatplane pilot was from Seattle! I kind of figured something like that was going on, but not being from or knowing much about Alaska, I wasn’t sure how much I should generalize from all the anti-war, anti-Palin/pro-Obama stickers, signs, and T-shirts I saw everywhere. Thanks for the info!!!

PS The cruiseline (Holland-America) I sailed to Alaska with is also completely leftwing. They had this whole, “we are the world” mentality, and their only news sources were the hard-left NY Times and CNN. Needless to say, I wrote complaints to the officers on board the entire trip, not to mention writing the same complain all over every category of the evaluation form at the end of the trip.


81 posted on 08/15/2009 11:01:24 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: goodusername
Oh yes, I plan on bringing it up every time there is a new development or article on the subject. I have noticed that between the Dino soft tissue story, Darwin's “tree of life” biting the dust, life being driven by a digital code, and the falsification of the Evo prediction that 97%+ of the genome is evolutionary “junk”, not to mention the irreducible structure of all life, people are really starting to sit up and take note of just how unscientific (read: preposterous) Charlie's fanciful creation myth really is.
82 posted on 08/15/2009 11:12:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Alamo-Girl; tpanther; allmendream; metmom; TXnMA; bolobaby
This relationship between that which changes and that which does not change has a long history in theology and in philosophy. And as if to underscore the point in neon flashing letters that any man could understand, God has built it into the first and second laws of thermodynamics. The same is true of logic itself. The physical world is quite logical, indeed mathematics is unreasonably effective in the natural sciences (Wigner, Vafa et al.) Truly, if it were not logical we couldn't understand it at all.

Oh so beautifully said, dearest sister in Christ!

Your lapidary insight goes straight to the foundation of Natural Law which is implicit in the very practice of the natural sciences.

Then again, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

Thank you oh so very much for your outstanding essay/post!

83 posted on 08/15/2009 11:15:58 AM PDT by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“Oh yes, I plan on bringing it up every time there is a new development or article on the subject.”

—The only thing “new” in the article from the past ones on the subject was the inclusion that dna was found, which is wrong.


84 posted on 08/15/2009 11:19:43 AM PDT by goodusername
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To: GodGunsGuts

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85 posted on 08/15/2009 11:25:48 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: humantech

Thats always puzzled me too. Seems to suggest the ancients did have knowledge in the memory of the cultural of the very things its claimed vanished long before they would have been able to become aware of them.


86 posted on 08/15/2009 11:27:14 AM PDT by lucias_clay (I got feathers whose got tar ?)
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To: bolobaby

It is the Evos who made the argument. And as usual, they have been forced to eat their words, because God’s creation resists evo/long-age explanations:

‘The new finding will be viewed skeptically, admitted one of the researchers involved in the two studies. “It’s very, very, very controversial because most people have gone on record saying there’s an absolute time limit to anything that’s protein or DNA,” said Mary Schweitzer, a molecular paleontologist at North Carolina State University.’

http://www.livescience.com/animals/070412_dino_tissues.html


87 posted on 08/15/2009 11:42:27 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: tpanther

Thought you might be interested in #87.

All the best—GGG


88 posted on 08/15/2009 11:43:11 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: goodusername

Unidentified DNA most certainly was found inside the T. Rex bone. But the unidentified DNA has been found mixed in with fragments from fungi, bacteria, insects, etc...so at this point they can’t be sure that the unidentified DNA is from the dino.


89 posted on 08/15/2009 11:52:49 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: betty boop
Truly, Natural Law is implicit in the very practice of the natural sciences!

Thank you oh so very much for your insights, dearest sister in Christ, and for your encouragements!

90 posted on 08/15/2009 12:37:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Boxen

re: Schweitzer (a self-described Christian) explaining how awful creationists are and how they use her work to twist their own warped view of the world...

I notice no one responded to her words after 60+ replies on this thread.

More cognitive dissonance on display from the creationist crowd.

I love it.


91 posted on 08/15/2009 1:46:56 PM PDT by whattajoke (.)
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To: Jaime2099
It seems the days of blind belief in Evolution are drawing to an end

... Yup. Maybe NOW after 150 years of creationists saying this, it'll come true! Or not.
92 posted on 08/15/2009 1:49:20 PM PDT by whattajoke (.)
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To: tpanther
IMO, the Creator IS fixed

Which one?

Let's count how many silly things tpanther can say in one run-on sentence.

like your liberal buddies demand ga-jillions of years old of godless, irrational, unintelligent, meaningless, purposeless, undesigned intolerant, lawsuit backed conjecture-drivel... masquerading as (settled) science be forever fixed...despite the mountains of evidence sinking Darwin's ship while you're too busy bailing water to notice!

Sigh. Too many. Do you have the word "liberal" set as a hotkey? I always like how you seem stuck on scientists being the one who bring lawsuits over education curricula. I don't know where that's the case.

And yup! Another confirmation of the "sinking Darwin ship!" Been sinking for 150 years now, and is still keeping several industries afloat! Amazing!
93 posted on 08/15/2009 1:57:12 PM PDT by whattajoke (.)
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To: whattajoke

Maybe it’s not worth replying to, like most of what the Braying Bunch disgorges.


94 posted on 08/15/2009 2:46:25 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tpanther; bolobaby; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop

Nowhere in the Bible does God or anyone else ‘state’ the Earth or Universe is 60,6000, or 600 billion years old.


95 posted on 08/15/2009 3:04:44 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: whattajoke
... Yup. Maybe NOW after 150 years of creationists saying this, it'll come true! Or not.

I didn't mean blind, hard hearted, religious Darwin followers. I meant true scientists who look at evidence and make their decisions based on facts and not faith. Any rational and logical scientist can look at those fossils and tell you Evolution's dating techniques appear to be phony as this material could not possible have lasted millions of years.
96 posted on 08/15/2009 4:06:49 PM PDT by Jaime2099 (Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible)
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To: whattajoke
I notice no one responded to her words after 60+ replies on this thread.

No problem, I will do it right now. She is a paid research scientist and her job is on the line. If she even remotely hinted at Evolution's dating techniques being faulty she would be treated like Ben Stein was when he questioned the Darwin followers. No research money, no job, mocked by her peers, and cast out of science is what would happen to her for that. Who could blame her for lashing out at Creationists to keep her job, but the facts are still facts her words are not science, but the tissue she found sure as heck is and it makes Evolution in it's current state look highly unlikely.
97 posted on 08/15/2009 4:17:03 PM PDT by Jaime2099 (Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible)
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To: Jaime2099

Ah, yes... The ol’ conspiracy theory of science.

FYI, those “faulty dating technique” articles you’ve read discuss techniques used 40 years ago. Unfortunately for the creationists, science has marched forward and developed several very accurate dating techniques that are used independently of each other to verify the age. I know they don’t teach you that at the creationist sites you read, but it’s true.

And FWIW, if she found the tissue to be a) Mesozoic or Jurassic and somehow only 10K yrs old or so, she’d simply need to offer up some tissue for independent testing and then she’d be a rather rich and famous person on the cover of every magazine in the land.

I’m flummoxed as to how you don’t get that.

(A parallel: The cold fusion gang several yrs ago - IF they weren’t liars with cooked data and other scientists verified their findings, they’d have won the Nobel and become billionaires probably - for stating somethign previously thought to be impossible and for being mavericks in science. Young dino DNA would do the same thing (though not make her a billionaire).


98 posted on 08/15/2009 5:41:50 PM PDT by whattajoke (.)
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To: whattajoke; Jaime2099
she’d simply need to offer up some tissue for independent testing and then she’d be a rather rich and famous person on the cover of every magazine in the land.

You'd think they might wonder why she didn't lose her job or money or get mocked by her peers for announcing her discovery of soft tissue--you'd think if there really were such a strong conspiracy, she'd have buried that finding right quick. Instead, she published, and we're talking about her--think how much better known she'd be if she did prove the tissue was only 5K years old.

Darwinism: worst. conspiracy. ever.

99 posted on 08/15/2009 6:54:02 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: whattajoke; Boxen
Boxen:The kicker? She decribes herself as a Christian.

Whatajoke:re: Schweitzer (a self-described Christian) explaining how awful creationists are and how they use her work to twist their own warped view of the world...

Someone who describes themselves as a Christian who believes in evolution complaining about how creationists treat her?

That's just par for the course. There's plenty of evos on this board who say the same thing she does. That's nothing new. What's the big deal?

I notice no one responded to her words after 60+ replies on this thread.

And just what would you like us to say?

100 posted on 08/15/2009 7:09:29 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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