Posted on 09/26/2009 3:11:14 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
By saying that Republican John McCain would have been a worse president than Barack Obama............
(I have no use for the rest of this website's drivel. I just want the substance of what Beck said)
(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com ...
Exactly! Because that is SO obvious we will unite and create a movement against that which has been happening since Progressives have infiltrated all schools and most media, etc. in the 1900's
The Cultural Marxism has to be shoved back into the toilet that it escaped from==and most of McCain's ideas (although, not all, like zero's)are from that same sewer. There would have been NO MOMENTUM against McCain because of his false "Republican" label.
Mark has been picking a lot of fights lately, frankly I don’t really understand it, unless it’s to try and get some attention??? Beck is just the latest and it disappoints me in Mark greatly... he is doing the same thing Savage did and caused me to stop listening to his program, I don’t like personal attacks on other commentators — I don’t like it when MSNBC allows their people to do it nightly against Fox and I don’t like it when commentators like Savage or Levin do it against other radio/TV commentators... it’s petty and small.
Yep, I did not care for any of those in the GOP primary last time. Hopefully Palin will run and we can have a candidate we can all get behind strongly the next time.
But whomever it is the moderates got their candidate the last time and then abandoned him for Obama. So they have had their shot for a few cycles.
agreed. I think Beck is making the argument that people have made about Carter winning over Ford. Yes, Carter was bad, but it was his failures that galvanized people and ultimately led to Reagan. If Ford had won, it’s highly unlikely Reagan ever would have President. In that sense Ford would have been worse than Carter because not only would he probably not have been all that different, but he would have prevented Reagan from taking office.
So McCain is worse in the sense that if he had won the same anti-Bush opposition would be in place, but the conservative regrouping and whatever is going on that is going on would not really have taken root.
That said, I’d rather have McCain anyday, and I bet deep down, Glenn would as well. Besides, if you believe what the media and the left told us, McCain wouldn’t be President now anyway. He’d have died by the Spring and the VP would have taken over.
Perhaps Levin would be better off writing..
What a simple minded post.
But I can learn something from Levin. He really has had skin in the game for a hell of a longer than the other talkers.
I honestly don't get the controversy. He offered his opinion about Beck's comments and he DON'T mince words when he is speaking his mind. This is manufactures controversy IMO.
Thanks. It’s best to get right to the point. Glad you like it...
That sums it up.
The Week should be renamed The Weak. I read their article and learned absolutely nothing. It was poorly written and showed a picture of Beck next to a picture of a guy that’s certainly not Mark Levin. It’s not even Carl Levin or Harvey Levin.
Besides, no one’s mind is going to be changed as a result of a weak-sauce article like that.
You smelling troll too? Checking his posting history he also stroked the feud between Reagan and Bush, attacks Palin but then tried to sound like a supporter, attacks the candidates in Texas...because he is a “conservative”, and so on.
manufactures - manufactured
I look at Beck as doing the job that a honest press would be actually doing but for political reasons won't.
Levin should just say he doesn't agree and why he does not and MAYBE he could convince some people to agree with him....so what?????? Let's attack the corruption and tyranny in this country and put most efforts there. To argue over "what ifs" are a waste of energy for the most part and by judging MOST of McCain's policies and thinking, we would have been spiraling down to total tyranny regardless.
I know the point Beck says he is trying to make that at least partly covers up his own self interest. [As an aside, I like some of what Beck does on the air as with Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin etc.]
As for the Reagan arguement, the American public liked Reagan. He had residual good will with the public from his acting days. He seemed like a good guy. [The public knows that it does not know what issues will arise in the next four years and thus generally goes with the candidate that seems like a good guy with common sense.] Reagan likely would have won in 1980 whether it was against Carter or it was open with Ford retiring. After running a centerist in 1976, the Dims likely would have run a hard lefty in 1980. Reagan would have mopped the floor with whomever it was.
And as a bonus, had the Dims not won with Carter in 1980, they might have been willing to go with another unknown Dim govenor in 1992 and we might have been spared turning the White House being taken over by trailer trash.
Geez...if that's your assessment of Levin fine...but try reading his book then try Becks. You might change your opinion. The main difference between the two is one is a Libertarian, and the other is conservative. Both guys help the cause.
I like them both, dislike both their voices (i.e., Levin’s and the Mel Blanc impressions).
But for the time I put in, I’d like to get something elevating or entertaining out of it. Levin’s book was junior high school level, it would have been elevating when I was 13; now it’s just tedious.
Beck, on the other hand, is mildly entertaining, and he asks questions that need to be asked.
One good question is worth many lectures.
Pains me to say it but I suspect Levin is either envious or snobbish, with regard to Beck.
In any case they are both serving a good cause and Levin should respect that.
As for McCain, opinions about him are all over the place, and there’s a grain of validity in all of them. He’s iron and clay, gold and dross. Nobody should blame anyone for any opinion about McCain.
No, the main difference is that Beck is having an effect as is evidenced by the unrelenting attacks on him from the left. Levin? The left could care less about him.
agreed.....
“Nobody should blame anyone for any opinion about McCain.”
I’m with ya on that.
Mark Levin is president of Landmark Legal Foundation. Previously he served as Landmark’s director of legal policy for more than three years.
Levin served as chief of staff to U.S. Attorney General, Edwin Meese; in the Reagan Administration.
Deputy assistant secretary for elementary and secondary education at the U.S. Department of Education; .
and deputy solicitor of the U.S. Department of Interior In the Reagan Administration.
He holds a B.A. from Temple University, where he graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude, and a J.D. from Temple University School of Law.
Mark is a frequent contributor to, The Corner on National Review Online.
Mark Levin is also the author of the best selling books, Men in Black, Rescuing Sprite and Liberty and Tyranny.
Thank you for that!
Levin’s credentials speak louder than he does.
The fact that someone with his voice is able to maintain a RADIO audience says people really want to hear what he has to say.
1,000,000 copies of Liberty and Tyranny sold has an effect.
I enjoy both, but my post was in response to the idea that Levin is not a deep thinker?
“Levin? The left could care less about him.”
Not really true, but they do try like hell to ignore him. No liberal, and I mean none of them, want to debate him.
Im not attacking Levin or attempting to diminish anything he has done. Beck has the lib’s snapping at their own asses and Levin has the balls to attack him.....its a stupid ploy on his part to garner more of an audience for himself, nothing more or less. That pisses me off.
But it does mean that you knew that McCain was not nearly as bad as Obamba.
He may like the Cap and Trade but he would not be pushing it in a time of recession.
He would not have been pushing this health care crap at all.
Obama is much worse than any RINO any day of the week.
Nothing so sweet as the smell of burning troll in the morning.
It is my contention that the left is trying to baptize Beck our leader FOR us, so that they can then later tear him down.
Rush has been through it and so has Levin and remained standing, Beck is a much easier target, and he is setting himself up for a fall with the help of the left.
I like both of them but I never liked McCain. I held my nose to vote for McCain. I believe McCain wanted BHO to win.
IMO, this is ego driven.
Wow, I have the exact opposite opinion. Levin is one of the most intellectual and articulate voices for conservatism on radio. I’ve always loved Mark’s debating style. He destroys the libs. I first learned about Mark when he used to appear on Hannity and Colmes to debate Lanny Davis and Bob Beckel. Levin was the best conservative to take them on.
“...garner more of an audience for himself, nothing more or less. “
I really think no one is more surprised that he has a radio show then he is, and I don’t he has ever altered at all what he wanted to say for fear that he would lose part of his audience or try to win a larger audience.
Rush has been on Glenn Beck on Fox via phone from Fla. Remember Rush had the first tv show about politics. Rush was before the fake shows like John Stewart and Colbert Report. Glenn’s kind of doing what Rush used to do before Rush got out of tv. I used to go home from work at lunch to watch Rush the tv show.
WHICH GROUP is going to Ostracize me because I LISTEN TO BOTH???
He and Hannity delight in taking on libs and “destroying” them.. personally, I like the way Rush does it best, he actually debates them and lets them speak and then he educates them.. somehow I think the way Rush does it might actually change a few hearts and minds here and there and the way Levin and Hannity do it only makes them hate conservatives more.
LOL! I hear ya. Good luck to Beck an Levin may they both live long and prosper.
When I say destroy I don’t mean that he attacks them personally. He used intellect and logic to destroy their arguments. I find Mark the best to do this when he does engage a liberal that is willing to listen.
I won’t vote RINO next time. If that means a second term for Obozo, so be it. The GOP and all their RINO supporters have had ample notice.
They can blame their own pathetic asses for a second Obama term.
This confuses the average American that doesn't watch MSNBC but isn't a big conservative talk radio fan, either. Glenn Beck is getting very popular and he does some good work, as in the Van Jones business. That doesn't make him above criticism but let the criticism come from the left, as it has - lots and lots of it - and most of it has been very nasty - but I'm sure Beck can handle it.
So, for those committed to conservative principles and are appalled by the Obama administration, let's not waste our time debating who is better for conservatives or has the more interesting show. Listen to Levin and/or Beck and take what you feel is worthy from each man's presentation or ignore them, both, but this 'circular firing squad' approach is ridiculous and self-defeating.
That and I got tired of hearing Levin praise Hannity and call everyone else backbencher (besides Rush, but he’s actually *not* a backbencher).
**I like both of them but I never liked McCain. I held my nose to vote for McCain. I believe McCain wanted BHO to win.**
IF the GOP holds true to form.. their NEXT NOMINEE will be even MORE OF A RINO than McCAin WAS! In which case, the GOP will be ON their own. I was one of those.. IF it wasn’t for PALIN, I had no reason to go vote (Single party state.. Scumsuckers run Unopposed.)
I’m afraid what the GOP needs is a good “MONDALE style TROUNCING” before they’ll learn their lesson.
Since the USA is going to HELL, I’d rather the scumbag LIBERALS behind the wheel!!!
Yeah, and nobody’s gonna cut ACORN. They’re going to get worse too.
You’re exactly right. If Palin hadn’t been the VP candidate, Barr would have come in second.
“Anyways, In the *FULL* commentary, Beck has said that if McCain were president, the tea party movement wouldn’t have happened or wouldn’t have been as large. “
if mccain were president, I wouldn’t be awake at night worrying about Iran’s nukes and what Obama would do to deter Israel.
Forward to minute 37:50 why Levin decided to speak out against Beck.
For many years Mark Levin was a frequent contributor of legal opinions to The Rush Limbaugh Show
where Limbaugh referred to him on-air as “F. Lee Levin
Rush said essentially the same thing re:McCain before the election. Levin’s envy of Beck ain’t a pretty thing...
Our local radio has Beck, Limbaugh, a local show, Hannity and then Levin is our 10:00 pm'er. That is, when Levin is not preempted for the local High School football report.
Levin is the only radio host participating in the adolescent ad hominem attacks. Beck ain't playing. Levin comes off petty and punkish.
Levin's audience is dwarfed by Beck's. It feels like Levin is trying to gain some headlines and defend his man-crush, Sean Hannity, in Hannity's prime-time slot on Fox.
More like Beck lifting information and leaving it unsourced — information from Levin.
Don’t get me wrong; I like ‘em both. But, you have attribute your sources — all of them!
Hoss
No, his inability to give credit to those who are the originators of the material he
uses.
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