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Ho-Hum, Another Feathered Dinosaur
CEH ^ | September 25, 2009

Posted on 09/27/2009 2:04:48 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Ho-Hum, Another Feathered Dinosaur

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Last January when the most recent flap about feathered dinosaurs made the rounds (01/21/2009), we listed 18 questions that should be asked before believing the claims made about bird and feather evolution. It would be a good time to review those again (see also footnote 3). The rush to judgment and eagerness to prove dinobird evolution should raise red flags...

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1 posted on 09/27/2009 2:04:48 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/27/2009 2:07:10 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

This is a conclusive as stating that both a horse and a cow have a tail.


3 posted on 09/27/2009 2:08:27 PM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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To: GodGunsGuts

Currently, on Earth, there are bare-skinned animals, feathered animals, fur covered animals, scale covered animals.

Why would anyone think that millenia ago there was not the same variety?


4 posted on 09/27/2009 2:15:47 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

[. . . most important, evolution has already been falsified, so Darwin has nothing to say about this fossil. The Cambrian Explosion renders all Darwinian explanations for the origin of animal body plans superfluous. That applies to birds and dinosaurs as well. And since soft tissue and blood vessels have been recovered from dinosaur bone, the dating of specimens labeled Jurassic and Cretaceous has been falsified, too. ]

It used to be argued by creationists that the known transitional fossils were too few to support evolution theory, particularly in the area of dinosaurs to birds. Now that there are so many dinosaur to bird fossils known, are the critics actually using this abundance as another argument against evolution?

In any case, the critics defaulting to the above quote is impossible to argue against rationality as it goes against any kind of scientific reasoning accepted not just in basic biology but in basic physics, chemistry, geology and other areas.


5 posted on 09/27/2009 2:41:33 PM PDT by spinestein (The answer is 42.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

All it takes to be an evolutionist is a vivid imagination, and a strong willingness to deceive.

From there, the sky’s the limit ;o)


6 posted on 09/27/2009 2:45:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: spinestein
"It used to be argued by creationists that the known transitional fossils were too few to support evolution theory"

More true now than ever! Zero transitional fossils is a tough lump to overcome.

" Now that there are so many dinosaur to bird fossils known..."

None is 'so many?'

7 posted on 09/27/2009 2:50:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: UCANSEE2

It’s called wishful thinking. If the evolutionists want to prove common descent, they have to show a pattern of that variety emerging over time, as whole kingdoms and families of creatures branch off from each other. The problem lies in the fact that they can produce no clear transitional species, they only find species fully developed, distinct, and uniform in the fossil record.

To explain this away, they say that the transitional forms must have only lived a short while in terms of geological time before adapting into the commonly recognizable species they were evolving into. If this is true, they reason, then the fossils from the transitional forms would be rare. However this contradicts the Darwinian tenet of gradualism, that changes to species accumulate at a slowly, but fairly uniform pace, over long periods of time. If that were true, we would expect to see a wealth of transitional forms in the fossil record, and very few distinct species which remain for the most part unchanged over long periods of time.

To explain one contradiction, they’ve trapped themselves into another, which often happens when you are building a web of lies.


8 posted on 09/27/2009 2:52:07 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GodGunsGuts

Right on cue just the needed fossils appear. Surprise, surprise!


9 posted on 09/27/2009 2:55:45 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

INTREP


10 posted on 09/27/2009 2:58:49 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: GodGunsGuts
What came first the bird or the egg?

What came first the feather or the bird.

It is so cornfusing?

11 posted on 09/27/2009 3:02:45 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Flying feathered dinosaurs. Sure why not. Anythings possible with evolution.

I would think some mid-evil film makers will get a little upset that they will have to make feathered flying dragons in future mid evil dragon slaying movies, instead of the traditional leathery winged lizard skinned variety.


12 posted on 09/27/2009 3:03:27 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: mountainlion
"What came first the feather or the bird."

Naked bald birds.

It stands to reason that they "evolved" feathers after a few centuries of freezing.

13 posted on 09/27/2009 3:06:40 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
It must be embarrassing to be bald at a young age like an eagle!
14 posted on 09/27/2009 3:07:54 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Just out of curiosity, how old is the earth and human beings according to the latest Creationist theory?

parsy, who is curious


15 posted on 09/27/2009 3:18:44 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: editor-surveyor

I would argue that most of them (the vast, vast majority) are completely honest, but are self-deceived as Paul described in Romans 1.


16 posted on 09/27/2009 3:35:12 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: parsifal
Just out of curiosity, how old is the earth and human beings according to the latest Creationist theory?

Depends on who you ask. Some say as few as 6,000 years or so, but it could be much longer.

The bottom line, however, is that the alternate theory boils down to "I found a book over here, so it must be the result of an explosion in a print shop."

17 posted on 09/27/2009 3:42:39 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I was just curious where all Creationists agreed on 6,000 years or whether there were different sects who disagreed about dates.

parsy, who wonders


18 posted on 09/27/2009 3:46:19 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Shanty Shaker
This is a conclusive as stating that both a horse and a cow have a tail.

...or that humans have a vestigial one?

19 posted on 09/27/2009 4:28:11 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Boogieman

I don’t know many Darwinists, despite how the charlatans try to confuse laymen into believing that “evolutionist” is the same as “Darwinist.” It serves as a handy strawman.


20 posted on 09/27/2009 4:31:50 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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