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School Chief Sticks By 'Zero Tolerance' Ruling for Eagle Scout
FOXNEWS.com ^ | October 16, 2009 | Joseph Abrams

Posted on 10/16/2009 10:56:47 AM PDT by broken_arrow1

Call him Mr. Zero Tolerance.

The upstate New York school superintendent who suspended an Eagle Scout for 20 days for keeping a 2-inch utility knife locked in his car is unwilling to speak to the teen's family or bend in his ruling.

Lansingburgh Central School District Superintendent George J. Goodwin, 55, said in a written statement that his district "has an established policy of zero tolerance with respect to the possession of weapons of any kind on school property or in school buildings."

But nowhere in the school district's rule book, which is published online, is there any mention of a "zero tolerance" policy, leading some to question whether Goodwin, in fact, was compelled to suspend the youth.

Seventeen-year-old Matthew Whalen, a senior at Lansingburgh High School in Troy, N.Y., says he got in trouble over a survival kit he keeps in his car that includes a sleeping bag, water, a ready-to-eat meal and the small pocketknife, which was given to him by his grandfather, a police chief in a nearby town.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: New York
KEYWORDS: agenda; communism; democrats; discipline; education; liberalfascism; publiceducation; publicschools; radicalism; schoolnazi; socialism; zerotolerance
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To: wbarmy
Excuse me, but if enough people who cared about their children pulled them out of the public schools, by either home schooling or private schools, the government would take notice.

Homeschooling is tough and takes a lot of time and resources to be effective. God bless those that do. Private school is expensive and many cannot afford it.

Here is a secret. It is my own thought and I have no empirical proof. Don't tell anyone they'll legislate it. Are you ready?

More and more private schools are opening and enrollment in these schools are skyrocketing. The enrollment in most public schools is not going up as fast as they should considering population migration and growth...(this is the secret part)...It may be affecting the average scores on national tests as the more involved families sacrifice to send their kids to better schools.

81 posted on 10/16/2009 11:34:08 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: Sir Gawain

The jack itself could also be used to kill someone. As could the car.

This is the result of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and their ilk pitching meritless law suits and general harassment about how black students got into worse trouble with multiple-purpose tools than white students did. Screw looking at the BEHAVIOR surrounding the incident.


82 posted on 10/16/2009 11:35:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: AndyJackson
Possibly may have been this one, too...


83 posted on 10/16/2009 11:36:18 AM PDT by wbill
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To: UAConservative

No more metal shop or home economics! (Torches, hot stoves, knives, drills, other sharp tools.)


84 posted on 10/16/2009 11:36:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: MrB

The 1397th reason for America to vote to turn the makeup of Congress upside down in 2010 and 2012.


85 posted on 10/16/2009 11:38:08 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: SwedeBoy2

Don’t you also suppose they have some SHARP knives in the teacher’s lounge, for cutting bagels, etc.? Isn’t it reasonable that a student could force his way into the lounge behind a faculty member (assuming the room is kept locked and/or uses a security pad)?


86 posted on 10/16/2009 11:38:42 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: UAConservative

bttt


87 posted on 10/16/2009 11:39:49 AM PDT by Sparko (Barack Hussein Obama: Mmm, mmm, mmm... Peace Prize. Now no one is equal to Me in My Sight.)
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To: maine-iac7
These cases happen DAILY in our schools with the brain-washed school personnel

Spot on. With all due respect and exemption to the "good" teachers, the government workers in education are obviously deemed so incompetent that they are forbidden to THINK and are thus given black and white rules, processes and procedures to follow for any given circumstance. Zero Tolerance removes the need for any intelligence with regards to good judgement. A monkey can be trained to a zero tolerance policy and a computer could be created to make a better judgement.

These loonatics should mix in some If=Then statements to their ZERO TOLERANCE stupidity.

88 posted on 10/16/2009 11:40:08 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: broken_arrow1

40 years ago every school boy had a pocket knife and a whetstone. No problems were ever encountered because of them.

I read in an old magazine of a kid taking an origional Bowie knife to school for “show and tell”, and I remember a kid taking an original 1812 military pistol to school for the same reason.

Our local school expelled a boy several years ago for taking a hunting knife to school to give it to another student the day before hunting season opened.

Even my supervisor, who was on the school board voted for the expulsion. I could not believe it as he was a farm raised kid!

Today these idiots running these schools would go into “lockdown” and pee all over themselves.

What has happened to the US! They act as if they had been caught by someone with a pair of Burduzios in their youth!


89 posted on 10/16/2009 11:40:48 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (You talkin' ta me? YOU TALKIN TO ME! Well just who are you talkin' to?)
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To: broken_arrow1
NOTICE: to the majority of you posters who seem to think this is an isolated incident due to a moron of a Principal!

This is a policy that is COUNTRY WIDE in all our schools.

The Zero Policy was enacted by brain-dead knee-jerkers after Columbine. They thought nothing through and all public school personnel have had the training.

The results are that this is happening all over the country with bizarre results.

If you've had your head buried in the sand, you might want to come up for air and recognize that this Cretin of a principal is the NORM now.

See my post #68

90 posted on 10/16/2009 11:45:05 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: broken_arrow1

Political correctness, 0 tolerance, chairman Mao is smiling today.


91 posted on 10/16/2009 11:47:08 AM PDT by Waco (Kiss an illegal aliens' axx and buckle yer seat belt, it's the law.)
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To: maine-iac7

Well, we must raise heck country wide.

I don’t think Columbine nearly as much as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.


92 posted on 10/16/2009 11:47:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: broken_arrow1

What prompted these gov’t school morons to want to look in his trunk in the first place?


93 posted on 10/16/2009 11:49:26 AM PDT by cblue55
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To: Tenacious 1

What they are given is a statement that says

if you use your judgement instead of sticking to zero tolerance,

the district will not back you in any civil case against you.


94 posted on 10/16/2009 11:51:39 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: wbill

And the item in question is NOT A WEAPON under NY law.


95 posted on 10/16/2009 11:52:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Mr. Obama, I will not join your plantation.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
Mr. Goodwin is prime evidence that the possession of multiple degrees and lengthy education is NO indication of any brains or common sense.

I went on the District's web site and could not find his bio. If he has his "degrees" in the field of "Education" then he does not have an education. They are just paper and not backed up by any real matriculation.

This is the continued assault on the remains of our free society. You must be tough and smart to be free and maintain your liberties and these pantywaist liberals have made it illegal to be and do the things necessary to be a free person.

96 posted on 10/16/2009 11:52:43 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: maine-iac7

Yeah, I do wonder why the question came up in the first place.


97 posted on 10/16/2009 11:53:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Mr. Obama, I will not join your plantation.)
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To: ctdonath2

Some jealous gay nerd ratted, is my guess.


98 posted on 10/16/2009 11:57:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: broken_arrow1
I think that somebody from the Sikh religion should sign up for this Administrators school and then show up with a real dagger or Kirpans and when kicked out sue the school for violation of his religious freedom rights.

These guys have even intimidated airline TSA folks into allowing them to carry daggers on plans and in Canada have won the right to bring them to school
http://www.canadianchristianity.com/cgi-bin/na.cgi?nationalupdates/060309daggers

Canada is so PC-correct and even they let Sikhs bring daggers to school. So zero tolerance should be off the table.

I think that the Eagle Scout should have made a religious argument that his scouting oath requires him to be prepared and that includes a pocket knife in his car, and by the way he is considering converting to the Sikh faith.

99 posted on 10/16/2009 11:58:37 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
40 years ago every school boy had a pocket knife and a whetstone.

50 years ago boys in Baltimore city could take their pistols to school on the transit bus if they were on the pistol team. The shooting range was in the basement of a very large public school.

100 posted on 10/16/2009 12:03:49 PM PDT by Freee-dame (The)
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