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Will the Left Try a Kamikaze Rush?
American Thinker ^ | November 05, 2009 | James Lewis

Posted on 11/04/2009 11:09:55 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


41 posted on 11/05/2009 7:04:39 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Kenny Bunk

In liberal states like Oregone, most of the money spent has been in left wing universities and the teachers’s unions across the state via money for these left wingers.


42 posted on 11/05/2009 7:05:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: neverdem
Everything we know about these people suggests that they are single-minded fanatics with basically only one game plan, which is to consolidate as much power as possible as quickly as possible

Exactly right!

Just look at what they've tried to do in less than ONE YEAR!

Imagine what the next three will be like if we don't stop these jackals now!!


43 posted on 11/05/2009 7:08:02 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Hope....Change...Food Stamps!)
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To: livius

They won’t do it, they don’t have the balls, and if they did, they would have done it by now.

But, we will soon see.


44 posted on 11/05/2009 7:24:21 AM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: neverdem

Yes, I’ve been thinking exactly the same thing.

It certainly was the pattern at the start. Rush the Porkulus bill through without reading it, flying in sick senators before the weekend. Get it through before anyone has a chance to realize how bad it is.

I think that was their plan with the Health Bill and Cap & Trade. But time started to drag out, and they were forced to put it off over the summer, then to put it off in the early fall.

They will certainly ram these bills through if they can. And the problem is, even if it leads to throwing the bums out of office in the next two elections, we will be stuck with what looks like permanent millstones around our necks.

The damage done by Woodrow Wilson was never reversed. The damage done by FDR was never reversed. And the damage done by LBJ was never reversed. Can we afford more of that kind of damage? I don’t think so. We have got to block both of those bills. No compromises, which can later be twisted into hideous monstrosities by an administration and regulators who care nothing for the rule of law.

They must be blocked entirely.


45 posted on 11/05/2009 8:47:49 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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46 posted on 11/05/2009 12:09:02 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: neverdem

If the left is at that point, the more likly tactic will be to just stop any other elections.


47 posted on 11/05/2009 5:13:48 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Texas Fossil

A great book, everyone should have a copy.
The chapters on fiat money, the French Banking
scandal, the South Sea Bubble are must reading.

Quoz!


48 posted on 11/05/2009 5:20:15 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

I looked for a copy of the book for years and could not find one. Read it in a library up in KS on a business trip, over a weekend. Great read.

When I found it on Gutenberg.org I was really excited. In the beginning it was .txt only, but now there is an HTML version with all the illustrations. 2 volume easy download for free, how can you beat that.

TF


49 posted on 11/05/2009 6:41:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: Elsie
My impression was that the thread was about "Will they Kamikaze ..."

I'm asking "what will we do IF / WHEN they ram it through?"

The kind of answers I was looking for are like this.
50 posted on 11/05/2009 8:37:54 PM PST by plsjr (<>< ... reality always gets the last vote.)
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To: Texas Fossil

mark


51 posted on 11/05/2009 10:11:40 PM PST by bitt (“You can’t make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak.” (Abraham Lincoln))
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To: Grampa Dave
most of the money spent has been in left wing universities and the teachers’ unions across the state via money for these left wingers.

For Team Obama, this is merely seed money. Formation of the revolutionary cadre.

Sure it's a lot of money. 10% of TRILLIONS is one hell of a lot of money. And they do have plans for the rest!

52 posted on 11/06/2009 7:17:13 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ( Obama voter? Learn where he was in 2006, and what he did.)
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To: Kenny Bunk; Liz; STARWISE; Jim Robinson; SierraWasp; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

This comment from Liz re possible diverting of Stimulus funds to Corzine and other rats is a very scary posibility.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2379798/posts?page=3#3

To help Corzine, Ohaha hid $17.5 BILLION stimulus in NJ-—not for creating jobs, but for Corzine’s reelection kitty. Investigatve news reports say the stimulus disappeared and could not be traced. NOTE The WH still has not spent 85% of the stim——buzz is Ohaha is saving it for Dem candidates 2010 elections.


Grampa Dave’s closing remark: If this is true, now we know 85% of the stimulus funds haven’t been spent or publicily earmarked.


53 posted on 11/06/2009 7:35:33 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Grampa Dave; Kenny Bunk; stephenjohnbanker; Landru; STARWISE; maggief; GOPJ; SierraWasp; ASA Vet; ..
The stimulus is proving to be is a gigantic slush fund---for Ohaha and the WH coven to do with as they please. Repubs have requestd that federal programs be funded with stimulus---but the WH has refused to let go of the money. Unemployment just broke double digits. Billions were spent to bailout financials---CIT got $2B and still went bankrupt. Only Goldman Sachs is benefitting (no surprise there---more below).

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Goldman Sachs Will Be Sitting Pretty With Emanuel in the Obama White House
By: Timothy P. Carney, Examiner Columnist, Nov 21, 2008

Goldman Sachs always has clout in Washington, as evidenced by the firm’s alumni serving as Treasury secretaries under both Presidents Bush and Clinton. Today, in these tumultuous times of bailouts and meltdowns when the investment banking leviathan needs Washington more than ever before, Goldman can leverage its most valuable asset yet—incoming White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. Goldman Sachs is the giant of Wall Street, and more than any other investment bank, Goldman is surviving the current financial storm.

Traditionally a Democratic booster, and one of Barack Obama’s top sources of funds in this past election, Goldman has always had some particularly strong allies within government. Emanuel is one such ally. An interesting early chapter in the Goldman-Emanuel relationship took place in the setting of Bill Clinton’s campaign for the White House in 1992. Clinton hired Emanuel as his chief fundraiser.

At the same time, however, Emanuel was on the payroll of Goldman Sachs, receiving $3,000 per month from the firm to “introduce us to people,” in the words of one Goldman partner at the time. This is certainly a noteworthy relationship, but it’s one that has almost entirely escaped scrutiny. (snip)

In his four terms in Congress, Emanuel has raised $74,750 from Goldman, making the firm his number four source of funds. Goldman has helped Emanuel. How has Emanuel helped Goldman? The most obvious answer, as mentioned in this column two weeks ago, is in Emanuel’s lead role in shepherding the “$700 billion” bailout—first proposed by former a Goldman CEO, Bush Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson—through the skeptical House.

Of course, back in the Clinton days, Goldman benefited from NAFTA and the bailout of the Mexican currency, with Emanuel pushing NAFTA through Congress, and Rubin hammering out the peso bailout. Did Goldman improperly funnel money to the Clinton campaign by subsidizing Emanuel’s salary in 1992? Did Goldman’s help to Clinton spur the Democratic president to push NAFTA and the Mexican bailout?

The answers to these questions are opaque, and with Emanuel burrowed deep within the Obama White House, the continued relationship between Goldman Sachs and Obama’s right hand man won’t be easy to follow.

Watch which regulations of Wall Street Obama fights for. Watch where the bailout money goes. And don’t be surprised Goldman soon sitting pretty once again.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/TimothyCarney/ Goldman_Sach_Will_Be_Sitting_Pretty_With_Emanuel_in_the_Obama_White_House_112108.html

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THINGS WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT RAHM EMANUEL Did Wall Street Rahm reveal all of his ties to financial institutions involved in Obama's trillion dollar federal bailout of financials?

THINGS WE KNOW ABOUT RAHM Wonder Boy Rahm became a multi-millioniare overnight. He resigned as advisor to Bill Clinton in 1998, to become an investment banker with Wasserstein Perella and worked there until 2002. In 1999, Rahm became managing director at the Chicago office. According to Congressional disclosure statements, Rahm Emanuel made $16.2 million at Wasserstein Perella. Rahm worked on eight deals, including the acquisition by Commonwealth Edison of Peco Energy and the purchase by GTCR Golder Rauner of the SecurityLink home security unit from SBC.

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GOOD FOR GOLDMAN, BAD FOR AMERICA (G/S the major toll collector on govt's red-ink railroad)
BY TERRY KEENAN, anchor of Cashin' In, Fox News Sat 11:30 AM.

EXCERPT G/S morphed into a commercial bank to take advantage of gov't handouts, yet Goldman is really a hedge fund on steroids, with trading accounting for 69% of gross revenue in the first quarter........ a big chunk of its trading involves US govt debt -- federal, state and local......

G/S has a huge vested interest in the US digging a deeper and deeper hole.........trading govt IOUs is big business.....one of the few growth markets on Wall Street. IPO's, M&A's, etc, have yet to recover but the US will borrow a record $3.25 trillion in the current fiscal year -- four times as much as in 2008.

With its biggest competitors out of business, G/S is a major toll collector on Washington's red-ink railroad.......a "debt tsunami" that will lift Goldman's fortunes. G/S plays on the bankrupting of America -- the more we borrow, the more they make........

.........but the American public should know this side of the G/S profit miracle. .......Through savvy trading and management, G/S set aside $11.4B this year to compensate its employees on a playing field cleared of its top competitors and soon after Uncle Sam bailedout G/S with $10B TARP -- and millions more through AIG, all paid for by taxpayers.

G/S benefits nicely from the govt borrowing binge that was triggered in part by the banking crisis that started in Wall Street's own backyard.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07192009/business/good_for_goldman__bad_for_america_180130.htm

54 posted on 11/06/2009 8:09:29 AM PST by Liz (ALL FOX---ALL THE TIME---24/7)
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To: Liz; neverdem; Mom MD; SierraWasp; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; BIGLOOK; ...

This morning my trophy bride on her day off as an office RN was reading our local fishwrap and began to curse like many sailors I have known.

What made her curse:

http://www.bvonmoney.com/2009/11/05/goldman-sachs-citigroup-gets-h1n1-vaccine-before-hospitals/

Goldman Sachs, Citigroup Get H1N1 Vaccine Before Needy Hospitals?
Posted by Alexis Stodghill on Nov 5th 2009 12:31PM

PRINTE-MAIL|SHARE BusinessWeek has broken the story that large employers like Goldman Sachs and Citigroup are among the first on the list to receive the H1N1 vaccine. Clusterstock, the business blog, has added the nuance that not only has Goldman Sachs received the same number of vaccinations as Lennox Hill hospital in New York City — the finance giant got its hands on the doses before many hospitals.

Goldman Sachs’ PR reps want to make it clear to the public that the CDC distributes vaccines to many types of large employers, such as Time Warner and New York University. The idea is to get the vaccine to people at many points of potential infection, giving the H1N1 vaccine to those who come into contact regularly with high risk groups within large companies. Goldman Sachs has received 200 H1N1 vaccines, Citigroup 1,200.

This “guest list” treatment makes sense for some early recipients of the H1N1 vaccine. Hospital workers at Memorial Sloan-Kettering and the New York Presbyterian Healthcare System clearly need early protection — and got some of the first doses along with Goldman.

But Goldman Sachs? Citigroup? When you look at the list of people the CDC mandates must receive an H1N1 vaccination first at these employers, the reasoning for their special treatment seems sketchy:

Health-care workers at those employers are bound by the CDC to distribute the vaccine only to populations deemed to be at high risk of developing serious complications from swine flu: pregnant women, children and young people aged 6 months to 24 years, people who live with or provide care for infants under 6 months (who cannot be vaccinated), people aged 24 to 64 with medical conditions that put them at higher risk for flu-related complications, and health-care workers and emergency medical personnel. A spokeswoman for Goldman, who asked not to be named, said the company had just received the vaccine and did not yet have information as to how it would be distributed, saying that Goldman will supply vaccine only to those who qualify as high-risk, per the CDC requirements. Citigroup had not responded with a comment as of the evening of Nov. 2. (BusinessWeek)

It is hard to imagine that a ton of “pregnant women, children and young people aged 6 months to 24 years [or] people who live with or provide care for infants under 6 months (who cannot be vaccinated)” work at Goldman Sachs or Citigroup. In addition, it has been confirmed by the New York City health office that Goldman Sachs received the vaccines ahead of many hospitals — where the employees sorely need it — because the banking behemoth asked for it.

It’s unclear who is more suspect in this situation — the City of New York for giving these banks the vaccine, or the banks for asking for it before all those truly at high risk have been inoculated.

On the heels of news that Wall Street bonuses are up 40% in 2009, one imagines that Goldman Sachs could afford to pay for their own creation and distribution of H1N1 vaccines rather than taxing public resources. They are taking the H1N1 vaccine from the facilities that are crucial to averting what has been declared a national state of emergency.

By getting first in line for H1N1 vaccinations when the vaccines have been declared scarce, Goldman yet again paints itself as the perfect picture of corporate greed. Wasn’t the billion dollar bail out, of which Goldman Sachs was a prime beneficiary, enough? Do they need to take vital medicine from frailest members of the general public, too?


55 posted on 11/06/2009 8:53:17 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Grampa Dave; Liz
Yet he hides behind supposed corruption in Ashkanistan on voting irregularities to keep from making a decisive decision on troop strength!!!

Maybe we oughta ask Mayor Daley where the money is... hmmmmmmmm???

56 posted on 11/06/2009 8:58:11 AM PST by SierraWasp (AARP is guilty of Elder Abuse by endorsing a law that eliminates Medicare Advantaqe plans!!!)
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To: Liz
Great work, Liz.
Keep'er coming, Lady. ;^)

-BTTT-

57 posted on 11/06/2009 11:03:18 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Dick Morris thinks Mob-O-Care is dead after the Democrat electoral fiascos in the last week... The trouble is that Obama and the Democrats have no other game plan -- their other ideas, like the suicidal Carbon Tax, are even more likely to get them tossed out of office. Obama's power has peaked -- and judging by the Clinton backlash of 1994, when the GOP won the House for the first time in forty years, it's downhill from here on out... Obama and his dead-enders have to reckon with the likelihood that they will never have more power than right now. So it's not out of the question that the Democrats in the House and Senate will go for a kamikaze rush to push MediCoup through Congress as quickly as possible... Normal Americans think we can defeat the "Blue Dog Democrats" at the polls, and that is true. But Obama just has to pick up the phone and tell the Dogs he will guarantee them jobs even if they are defeated. How about Ambassador to Upper Slobbovia? How about a nice job in the Soros Empire? Or in the case of Leon Panetta, how about a university center named after you, and funded by the Feds to study, umm...the art of politics? For the real high flyers like Rahm Emanuel, there's always a part-time job on the Board of Freddie Mac for several million bucks.
Thanks neverdem. It may be tough to get it passed, but once passed, it'll be practically impossible to get rid of it, short of building a 500-capacity version of Tyburn Tree and using it.
58 posted on 11/06/2009 4:02:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: lmr
"There is no way they will pass Obamacare now. They will lose an unprecedented amount of seats in the house. An HISTORIC amount. It will set them back for at least a decade or two. They aren’t that stupid."

This is lose lose for FReepers.

Why bother warning these Blue Dogs?

Better to let them make a mess and clean it up later with these jerks out of the picture.

I do not care for this warning these Rats about how to stay in office.

Does anyone understand what I am talking about?

59 posted on 11/06/2009 4:09:53 PM PST by Radix (Obama represents CHAINS for posterity.)
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