Posted on 01/06/2010 8:34:30 AM PST by Maneesh
Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie 'Munich' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard, and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.
In a lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know -- but that our government has not yet shared with us.
He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed, and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. Unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.
Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.
Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.
Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke -- that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.
For example:
1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.
2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids on board. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked! Every strategy we have is reactionary.
3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.
Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel, security checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the airport.
Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (i.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as, rural America this time. The interlands (Wyoming, Montana, etc.)..
The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country
(terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas.
Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.
Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that our U. S. Government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts. The world is quickly going to become 'a different place', and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant.
On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's effective; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'.
He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead, 'homegrown', having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. He says to look for 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East. These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't know/understand a thing about them.
Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will inevitably face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON.
So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's, Ireland's and England's hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to pay attention to, and trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks we 'can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake.
Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities. The results? Not one person
called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago, someone tried to steal the briefcase!
In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves.
Unfortunately, America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism.
Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. (In New York City, this was days, in some cases!)
He stresses the importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your family, of how to respond in the event of a terrorist emergency. He urges parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools too, develop plans of actions, just as they do in Israel.
Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.
Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan, that in the event of another terrorist attack, EVERYONE's ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., will immediately be cut-off, as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated.
How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak to each other? You need to have a plan.
If you understand, and believe what you have just read, then you must feel compelled to send this to every concerned parent, guardian, grandparents, uncles, aunts, whomever. Don't stop there. In addition to sharing this via e-mail, contact and discuss this information with whomever it makes sense to. Make contingency plans with those you care about. Better that you have plans in place, and never have to use them, then to have no plans in place, and find you needed them.
If you choose not to share this, or not to have a plan in place, and nothing ever occurs -- good for you! However, in the event something does happen, and even moreso, if it directly affects your loved ones, then this e-mail will haunt you forever.
Telling yourself after the fact, "I should have sent this to so and so, but deleted it as so much trash from old Bill Jones, plus, I just didn't believe it", will not change anything. You were alerted, had the chance to do something, and instead of erring on the side of caution, you chose to disregard, if nothing else, a sensible, valuable warning.
Did the man appear on FOX and make those predictions? NO.
Case closed. This e-mail is a hoax - it’s a very simple FACT to check. But apparently some will put political ideology above facts. Enjoy!
We all know the source of the problem. We just need to eliminate the source. Just like we eliminated Nazi’s. They haven’t been a problem since.
In a lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know
Did you bother listening to the interview in the link in post 41? No. He said some of the same things in that interview.
Biography: Juval Aviv Fox News
In addition to his speaking engagements, Aviv has been a guest on ABC “Nightline,” FOX News, CNN, BBC “Newsnight,” ZDF (German National Television) and RAI (Italian National Television) and has been featured in numerous articles in major magazines and newspapers worldwide.
So if your stand is that he never said any of these things, you'd be wrong.
I won't answer you again as you make statements without checking the info.
NO NO it is good that you posted this.
Notice the people who want to point out that this is an old email and some of the predictions did not happen as Juval outlined; none of those debunkers make the point that the core information is not relevant anymore.
This post will get many people thinking and will cause people to become more aware.
You Debunkers? Do you also claim the information and tips are worthless since parts of the email are not factual?
Maneesh
YOu did a good thing, got us all thinking again. Do NOT let some take away what is good about your link.
Snopes is a worse source than Wiki. With Wiki, there is always the slim possibility that someone without a far left-wing political agenda may have just edited the article which you just read.
Well, at least thank God for some small favors out of the coming tragedy...
Prophesy must come true if it is to be taken seriously. It’s already been a few months since 2005.
Some of you don’t have a clue...hope your family is safe.
And you rely on snopes???
Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.
Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.
Ping
Look all Muslims ARE NOT terrorists. Most of them are nice people. If you want to go after the bad ones, join the army and fight. If you want to go after innocent Muslims - unarmed neighbors - you’ll find me standing with them...
is that it? you are complaining that we haven’t had the major attack Juval predicted?
HOW do you know that based on this and other factors security wasn’t stepped up at the venues mentioned and attacks thwarted? He is a pretty credible spokesman.
How does an attack not happening as predicted change the wisdom advice of staying aware of your surroundings or having a plan if an event of any sort happen around your family?
If this being posted causes one person to be more aware or one family creating a plan for a major disruption this will have been worth it to post in spite of the failure of the predictions.
Do YOU think any of what he wrote in 2007 about those who want to kill us is NOT true and relevant today?
Apparently the truth carries little weight with you. The original post had specific claims made in it, and those claims were false. And the source e-mail is false as well.
Did I state what Juval claimed could happen is wrong? No - but you like to think I did. Did I claim his cautions aren’t worth considering? No - but you make like I did. You like to make your own truth and invent your own facts; however that is not what a conservative would do.
I claimed the e-mail was false, and provably so. The truth is the truth, no matter what you want to make it out to be. Your lies and innuendos notwithstanding.
I'm glad you're not part of national security.
I think we are approaching the days where suicide bombers will be walking into our restaurants, theaters, hotel lobbies, etc., just like they do in other countries. That is the best way to instill fear in everybody...not just those getting on an airplane.
When it comes to some things, yes. You seem any errors on this page? It's all pretty accurate as far as I can tell, and matches all other sources I've read.
The problem is you dismiss a source because of a potential bias; that is NOT a conservative thing to do (in fact, it is liberal - judging a book by it's cover, a man by the color of his skin, a site by the political bent it takes). Facts are a-political; they exist and are true regardless of your attempt to bend them one way or another.
Juval made some specific claims and none of them came true as he said they would. The e-mail claimed he made certain claims on Fox, and that was also provably false. So the rest of the e-mail may have some good information, but the hard facts bear out the e-mail to be a hoax rather than truth.
A conservative mindset would be to evaluate the facts from any site against other known references, and if they bear out then they are accurate. On many technical issues - including ammunition, metallurgy, physics, math, etc - Wikipedia is quite a good reference. On soft, political issues Wikipedia is definitely liberal in bent.
A liberal mindset would be to throw it all out because of your opposition to the bias in political issues (you don't like what they say about X or Y or Z, so you will refuse to trust them on other hard, factual entries). Judging the content of their facts by the color of their politics, rather than letting the facts speak for themselves. Prejudice is a liberal - not conservative - value.
Logic, truth, reason are the domain of the conservative; knee-jerk prejudice and emotionalism is the hallmark of the liberal. Your words place you on the scale...
This email is over 2 years old. It’s been posted here before. IIRC, Snopes has it in their database.
Oops. I got taken...
Still good idea for "What if" thinking.
I had not thought about no cell phone use in case or terrorist attack.
I would add doing what my wife and I have done - always have in the vehicle the following:
A week's worth supply of whatever medications one needs (insulin, needles, anti-depressant or anti-anxiety meds, etc.), plus aspirin, ibuprofen, Pepto-Bismol, etc.
A sleeping bag, some kind of foam pad that you can lay on, a pillow, winter coat, rain coat, complete change of clothes (including underwear and shoes).
Hand sanitizer, paper towels, toilet paper.
Bottled water, Hard candy, Instant coffee and metal cup, Energy bars, maybe a jar of peanut butter and a spoon, a few cans of Spam or some packs of those Coast Guard survival biscuits, etc.
Flashlight, Portable battery powered AM/FM radio, Folding knife, Hammer, some basic tools.
Just in case at any given moment one day something suddenly happens and everyone is stuck where they are for a while (whether a short while or a long while)...
“Unfortunately, America hasn’t been yet ‘hurt enough’ by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it’s their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism....”
Our government like ‘em defenseless and ignorant....makes ‘em needy...and justifies trillions for “homeland” defense...
*sigh* Lying hoax e-mail.
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